MIT's are really that good

heiney9
heiney9 Posts: 25,163
edited November 2009 in The Clubhouse
As you all know I have been a fan of MIT cables for awhile

So for my modest little office rig I wasn't going to spend a lot on cables. I built my own Canare Star Quad speaker cables which were a nice improvement over std zip cord.

I have been using a Harmonic Technology Toslink out of my computer sound card into a separate dac (middle of the line cable). And finally a Signal Analog II for the analog from the dac to the input on my hybrid tube integrated.

Ran across an barely used last generation MIT Terminator III 2M RCA/pr. for a decent price so I figured I'd get it to compare to the Signal Analog II. Mind you I use MIT Terminator II's on the main rig and I really like them.

Wow, what a difference. The MIT cable is better in every way than the Signal Analog II, which is no slouch. Clarity, depth, and focus is a lot better. Bass is more natural and things are fleshed out so much better. The Signal sounds dark compared to the MIT; that's not to say the MIT is bright. It has much better clarity and leading edge attack.

It just goes to show you don;t always need ultra high end gear to notice very formidable differences in cables.

I bought this from MSSHiFi and I'm not even sure it's been broken in. It came in the original box and looks unused..........even though they said it has a few hours on it as a show demo.

H9
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2009
    Good on ya !!

    I love MIT cables...they have made the biggest difference in my system so far

    I tried alot of AQ cables , and they were nice , but the MIT`s really lifted the veil
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited November 2009
    That's just how I felt, mind you I wasn't using anything even half-decent for speaker cables....but I picked up some MIT Terminator 6 speaker cables and wow.

    I've had them for what, a week and a half now? I want to say I've logged on plenty of hours on them to be fully burned in after not being used for over a year.

    Can't wait until I move up in the audio food-chain and try out the newer stuff MIT has to offer :D
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2009
    My goal is to have Shotgun S1`s like my I/C`s
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited November 2009
    beardog03 wrote: »
    My goal is to have Shotgun S1`s like my I/C`s

    Some day when I can pull the trigger I'm going to replace the Terminator 2's in the main rig with Shotguns. I really like the T2's.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2009
    beardog03 wrote: »
    My goal is to have Shotgun S1`s like my I/C`s

    Save your money and step-up to the Magnum series. There's no audible difference within the same series.
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2009
    Do you recommend any certain ones for my humble rig ?

    Sorry for the HIjack H9
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2009
    Magnum M3.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited November 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Wow, what a difference. The MIT cable is better in every way than the Signal Analog II, which is no slouch. Clarity, depth, and focus is a lot better. Bass is more natural and things are fleshed out so much better. The Signal sounds dark compared to the MIT; that's not to say the MIT is bright. It has much better clarity and leading edge attack.

    Are these in any way affiliated with the university? As in designed by the researchers at MIT?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2009
    appadv wrote: »
    Are these in any way affiliated with the university? As in designed by the researchers at MIT?

    No. No.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited November 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    No. No.

    The name's a bit deceptive, IMO.
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Magnum M3.

    Thanks....I will look into them

    :cool:
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    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited November 2009
    appadv wrote: »
    Are these in any way affiliated with the university? As in designed by the researchers at MIT?

    Musical Interphase Technology
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited November 2009
    So, I must ask.....

    My speaker cables are MIT EXp 1, which I love. How do these compare to their (substantially) upscale cousins? What should I expect to hear if I upgrade them? Are they limited by the ICs I'm using (the weakest link) - if I upgrade the speaker cables, do I need to simultaneously upgrade the ICs to hear any real difference??
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2009
    Maybe someone else can respond, as i only have a limited experience with them...

    I know that when I went up the MIT foodchain with the I/C`s, I was blown away


    much, much more detail

    much more clear , uncolored sound...IMO

    I can only assume that the speaker cables would give me the same
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2009
    appadv wrote: »
    The name's a bit deceptive, IMO.

    So are alot of other acronyms and business names in the world.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited November 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    So are alot of other acronyms and business names in the world.

    Until h9 pointed it out, I didn't know it was "Musical Interphase Technology."

    I thought it was designed by "Massachusetts Institute of Technology."
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2009
    Then I can certainly understand your frustration and anger at the world.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited November 2009
    I thought it was Music Interface Technologies. Actually, at the their website it says Music Interface Technologies.

    Anyway, I owe it to many here and Joe A for owning my MIT S3s
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited November 2009
    No debating the MIT thing. The only IC's and speakers cables I have tried from MIT are the Shot S1's.
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  • TouchOfEvil
    TouchOfEvil Posts: 967
    edited November 2009
    I thought i was done buying speaker cables but you guys keep making me want MIT's lol.:p
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited November 2009
    thsmith wrote: »
    I thought it was Music Interface Technologies. Actually, at the their website it says Music Interface Technologies.

    Anyway, I owe it to many here and Joe A for owning my MIT S3s

    Yeah, ok so I typed it fast before I looked on the box. I know them as MIT's and rarely, if ever, spell out the acronym. Geeesh!
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited November 2009
    No worries, I was not sure my self until looked
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited November 2009
    No, you're all wrong.

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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Then I can certainly understand your frustration and anger at the world.
    I'm dying over here. :D
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  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited November 2009
    H9, I had a similar experience going basically from SC Analog IIs and Utras directly to Shotgun S-3 ICs and then a biwire S-3 speaker cables. It was like, Holy ****!. The price tag on the speaker cables even used/like new wasn't cheap ($580 shipped), costing more than my used Parasound amp amazingly, but at least I know I'm set with all of these cables for life. From now on, it will just be a matter of upgrading everything else in my rig to catch up with my cables :D
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited November 2009
    Face wrote: »
    I'm dying over here. :D
    He comes up with some gems.:D
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