What to do when you encounter a 'Peace Activist'

RuSsMaN

Sent in a email to me from a listserve I subscribe to, just for your reading pleasure.


With all of this talk of war, many of us will encounter "Peace Activists" who will try and convince us that we must refrain from retaliating against the ones who terrorized us all on September 11, 2001, and those who support terrorism.

These activists may be alone or in a gathering.....most of us don't know how to react to them. When you come upon one of these people, or one of their rallies, here are the proper rules of etiquette:

1. Listen politely while this person explains their views. Strike up a conversation if necessary and look very interested in their ideas. They will tell you how revenge is immoral, and that by attacking the people who did this to us, we will only bring on more violence. They will probably use many arguments, ranging from political to religious to humanitarian.

2. In the middle of their remarks, without any warning, punch them in the nose.

3. When the person gets up off of the ground, they will be very angry and they may try to hit you, so be careful.

4. Very quickly and calmly remind the person that violence only brings about more violence and remind them of their stand on this matter. Tell them if they are really committed to a nonviolent approach to undeserved attacks, they will turn the other cheek and negotiate a solution. Tell them they must lead by example if they really believe what they are saying.

5. Most of them will think for a moment and then agree that you are correct.

6. As soon as they do that, hit them again. Only this time hit them much harder. Square in the nose.

7. Repeat steps 2-5 until the desired results are obtained and the idiot realizes how stupid of an argument he/she is making.

8. There is no difference in an individual attacking an unsuspecting victim or a group of terrorists attacking a nation of people. It is unacceptable and must be dealt with. Perhaps at a high cost.

We owe our military a huge debt for what they are about to do for us and our children. We must support them and our leaders at times like these. We have no choice. We either strike back, VERY HARD, or we will keep getting hit in the nose.

Frank Z

Beautiful!!! I'm gonna go down town in the morning and give this a shot!!

Systems

It depends. Some people who oppose the war think that force is justified if you are directly attacked. Or they think that diplomacy should have gone on longer. They may be wrong, but my point is that opponents of the war do not agree on everything, anymore than supporters of the war agree on everything.
I am not a peace activist & have not participated in any demonstrations. I don't plan on doing so. I am not an unconditional pacifist, & I like my friend Mr Spyderco, who is almost alway with me. In answer to the question "Who do you trust, Bush or Saddam?", I answer, "neither". If I were to choose to participate in a demonstration against the war & you did that to me, I'd slit you from crotch to throat. But I suspect that you would much rather beat up on people who talk about turning the other cheek. I'm impressed with your patriotism.

RuSsMaN

It was an EMAIL you psycho.....

Systems

Well, if you don't endorse it, don't post it. Now you backpedal, call me a psycho, even though I only stated that I would defend myself IF attacked. Oh well. If you're going to post that stuff & then backpedal, maybe you should go be a peace activist.

HBombToo

I think thats is funny stuff! I would not dare try it cause I'm just a little guy and my wife could kick my Arss.

HBomb

RuSsMaN

I didn't backpeddle (or endorse) at all, I think it's FUNNY.

Here we go again, nothing to see here.....

Cheers,
Russ

TroyD

Now THAT is FUNNY.

Nothing better than demonstrating absurdity with absurdity.....

All I can think of (no offense to anyone) is Rocky...'cut me Mick, cut me'

BDT

Ron-P

For the love of...lighten up people. Why can't people take jokes anymore? It was funny, it was humor, it was a joke.

This place is becoming less and less fun by the hour.


Peace Out~:D

burdette

Originally posted by Ron-P
This place is becoming less and less fun by the hour.

What do you mean by that?? I think if someone is going to throw out personal accusations about me not being as fun as I was an hour ago, then you should support that. Don't try to get out of it now.. you said it, I heard you.. I heard what you said about my mother, you accusation throwing humor ****... you must be some sort of communist pinko facist ... and from California, too.. people from California are so afraid of the Right, they only buy one speaker. Ya, I know your type.. ohhhhhhhh!! Why I oughta...

jbowl

RuSsMaN RULES!

Anybody see CNN/Fox News last night with the live video of the journalist rolling with the metal?

I can just imagine sittin back in the pocket, looking around at the 200 Abrams' tanks in front of me ".. that's right *&^ckers, I got game ... ".


Hopefully they'll all surrender, and we don't have to kill/blow alot of stuff up.

TroyD

RuSsMaN RULES!

Obviously you've never met him.

He's the type of **** that would drink your last drop of liquor and not even feel bad about it. He is also mean to kids, dogs and old people.

BDT

Ron-P

burdette


Peace Out~:D

dorokusai

Loved the repeat steps 2-5 thing.

Rock on America!

dcarlson

Here's an interesting link, well worth a look.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/iraq/

Now that the war has started, the only positive thing to do is support the service men and women who are involved for a quick and low casualty war. There's no going back now.

I, by no means what so ever support Saddam and it will be for the good of world once he's gone.

I do question Bush's motivation behind this war and why there hasn't been anything done with North Korea who poses a bigger threat at this time.

Anyway, I didn't want to get into this whole war thing because it is obviously a very touchy subject. If anyone wants to judge or attack my character go ahead, that's your right as it is mine, only I won't respond because it's not worth it.

The U.S. is Canada's biggest friend and I hope our position of not lending support efforts in this war won't change our relationship. We are supportive in the war on terrorism and will also support in the rebuilding of Iraq.

My thoughts go out to the service men and women including fellow clubpolky Troyd. Good luck....stay safe.

Derick.

F1nut

LMFAO


Hmmmm......some folks need to lighten up.

brettw22

I think that we need to start a thread and list all the ever so tender, thin skinned, sensitive **** that don't know what laughing is about........just so we know who to blatantly ignore and let them whine to themselves.........

Dr. Spec

Originally posted by meestercleef
my friend Mr Spyderco, who is almost alway with me

Without commenting directly either way on the rest of your response to Russ - I carried a Spyderco Endura PlainEdge for years until I busted the lock mechanism one day with probably only 35 pounds of weight. Granted, I'm hard on my knives, but I lost a little faith in Spyderco that day. They stood behind it and gave me a new one, which I promptly gave to my girlfriend.

I bought a Cold Steel Voyager Extra Large Clip Point straight edge and haven't looked back. This knife can take 120 pounds on the lock and is built like a tank. It handles any cutting chore I throw at it and laughs. It holds an edge very well and I can shave with it after sharpening. Despite its formidable size, it carries very well clipped to the pocket.

Like American Express - I don't leave home without it.

Doc


http://www.spyderco.com/dealer_product_info.asp?sts=3%2F22%2F2003+4%3A59%3A39+AM&pfid=C10BK&deptId=1010&mscssid=GEK4CTRMG7P68PN4W9V483LXXR7562HF

http://www.coldsteel.com/index-b.html

RuSsMaN

Thats cool Doc, but have you gutted any humans with it?

'It places the lotion in the basket, or it gets the hose again'

Cheers,
Russ

Dr. Spec

Originally posted by RuSsMaN
Thats cool Doc, but have you gutted any humans with it?Cheers,
Russ

No - hence my qualifier "without commenting directly either way on the rest of your response to Russ". I just wanted to slightly derail the thread and make some aside comments about my experience with Spyderco knives.

If I simply had to comment on the subject of righteous (i.e., legal, moral, and ethical) use of deadly force: Simply being socked in the nose alone is not justification - legally, morally, or ethically - for responding with deadly force. I think you would find yourself in jail for manslaughter in this case.

If there were other exigent circumstances - like being socked in the nose was just the beginning of an imminent gang beating by 2 guys half your age and twice your size - then yes - a pre-emptive response with deadly force is justified and defendable in court.

Generally deadly force is justified only when there is an imminent or actual threat of grave bodily injury or death - either to yourself or to an innocent third party.

As with many things in life - the devil is in the details.

Doc

TroyD

Put the f&*%in lotion in the basket.....

BDT

Tour2ma

Originally posted by Dr. Spec
Spyderco... gave me a new one, which I promptly gave to my girlfriend.
Doc

... and they say romance is dead...

As for the post... yep, funny as a joke and I had more to say, but will hold it for now...

avelanchefan

And Russman redeams himself.....

Nice post man. NOW that was FUNNY!!!!:D

Micah Cohen

'Kay, case in point.

We have to let this thread die, yo. Too much partisan bickering is bad for the soul.

By the way, that's a hilarious signature quote, avelanchefan!

MC