Do SDA's sound better with the grills or off?

mhw58
mhw58 Posts: 359
edited April 2009 in Vintage Speakers
Any consensus on whether the Polk SDA's sound better with the grills on or off? I've been playing my SDA 1C's with the grills on and off to see which I prefer and can't make up my mind. What do you all think? I'm presently listening to the Beatles Love Dvd audio in 5.1 and it sounds incredible. I got a new Onkyo 876 receiver and I'm very impressed with it so far. The SDA's are singing now and I'm in audio heaven. Great job by the Beatles/Martin on the 5.1 mix of this dvd audio, the fabs have never sounded better.
Mike
Fronts: SDA1C's
Rears: SDA2's
Center:CS400i
Sub: PSW505
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,133
    edited April 2009
    Grills on IMHO.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,211
    edited April 2009
    Looks? My preference is on. Sound? My preference is off. YMMV.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited April 2009
    The grills come off???????????
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2009
    You can find whatever answer you want here.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited April 2009
    You cant make up your mind so you want us to make it up for you? LMAOOO

    Well I dont have your ears or your room etc so it's hard for me to decide for you what you like but I like the sound better on mine with them being in the nude.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited April 2009
    Left off & right on....sometimes I reverse and do left on and right off. Seriously though, my pre can reverse channels so I can do A-B comparisons, I don't hear any real difference,and since I don't, I prefer the "furniture look" with them on, as opposed to the "high tech" look of them off. YMMV !:)
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited April 2009
    They are designed to be played with the grills ON.
  • nduitch
    nduitch Posts: 316
    edited April 2009
    This is ridiculous to think that one could notice a difference unless they are a dog.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2009
    nduitch wrote: »
    This is ridiculous to think that one could notice a difference unless they are a dog.

    Um no. The material used in some of the SDA's is fairly heavy so it can make a very noticeable difference. If it sounds too hot with the grills off put them back on. Some SDA owners replace the material with more sonic transparent material. Put a blanket over your head and give a listen. I know it is an exaggeration;) I have no grills for the speakers I build;)
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,214
    edited April 2009
    nduitch wrote: »
    This is ridiculous to think that one could notice a difference unless they are a dog.

    Woof....woof...woof.....:rolleyes:

    Jesus where do these people come from lately. The stupid prison must be paroling a lot of people these days.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited April 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Woof....woof...woof.....:rolleyes:

    Jesus where do these people come from lately. The stupid prison must be paroling a lot of people these days.

    Thats beautiful :):)
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited April 2009
    nduitch wrote: »
    This is ridiculous to think that one could notice a difference unless they are a dog.
    What is riduclous is YOU ASSUMING that no one else can hear a difference if you cant. Whats even more laughable is what you are referring to is a signal that is so high that it is outside of human hearing ranges and if that was the case it wouldndt matter whether the grills were on off or whether the drivers were taped to your ears :rolleyes:



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited April 2009
    snow wrote: »
    What is riduclous is YOU ASSUMING that no one else can hear a difference if you cant. Whats even more laughable is what you are referring to is a signal that is so high that it is outside of human hearing ranges and if that was the case it wouldndt matter whether the grills were on off or whether the drivers were taped to your ears :rolleyes:



    REGARDS SNOW

    Another Beauty, keep up the excellent work guys :D
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited April 2009
    SDA's just sound better.
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • bsoko2
    bsoko2 Posts: 1,449
    edited April 2009
    SDA's just sound better.

    SDA's sound better with a "Deadnaught".

    Bill
  • nduitch
    nduitch Posts: 316
    edited April 2009
    I was referring to a dog's sensitivity of hearing not the extended range. I would like to see you guys do a blind comparison and nail it every time, to prove your "superior" ears.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2009
    nduitch wrote: »
    I was referring to a dog's sensitivity of hearing not the extended range. I would like to see you guys do a blind comparison and nail it every time, to prove your "superior" ears.

    Another one:rolleyes: Is AH sending these clowns over just for kicks:confused: Why do all these clowns want us to prove something to them:confused: Easy easy test. While music is playing have someone pull the grills off. Simple enough for you to try? Depending on grill cloth used, and how sensitive your ears are is all on you buddy. Haven't you noticed that a lot of manufactures spend a lot of time flush mounting drivers, and trying different locations. Then you put a grill on the with a frame, and cloth.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited April 2009
    nduitch wrote: »
    I was referring to a dog's sensitivity of hearing not the extended range. I would like to see you guys do a blind comparison and nail it every time, to prove your "superior" ears.

    Doesnt matter You are still assuming no one can hear a difference. What you may be able to hear is most likely going to be different then what I can hear better or worse. As Ben stated this is not a competition we dont need to nail it every time. All any of us need to do is nail it once and make a decision on or off :D either you can hear a difference or not and if you dont fine, then it's a matter of whether you prefer the look of the grills on or off. If you can hear a difference and prefer the grills on then it's up to you to decide whether the difference is enough to warrant the removal of the grills.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • nduitch
    nduitch Posts: 316
    edited April 2009
    That sounds fair enough.
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited April 2009
    nduitch wrote: »
    That sounds fair enough.
    Don't let anyone get under your skin ;)...
    As Ben said SDA screens are substantial and the difference is pretty obvious. I really don't have a preference for most material, but if I want the nth degree of resolution, the screens come off.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited April 2009
    I read somewhere that grills on or off don't make a difference to the sound. I tried to look up that artical but could not find it. Thought I booked marked it but I guess I did not.

    I have tried several speakers with grills on and off and could not hear a difference but everyone hears differently so I would suggest you try each way for a while and see what you like better.
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t
  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    edited April 2009
    Nekkid. So I can put my junk next to the drivers on a bass heavy track.
    Think about it.
  • dale442
    dale442 Posts: 40
    edited April 2009
    I'm right ear'ed. One on and one off????

    Dale
    Polk SDA 2B's
    Carver TFM-45
    Sony X33ES

    Theater:

    Sony XBR-850b
    Denon 1709
    Rti-6 by 4
    Csi 3
    Paradigm PSW10
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited April 2009
    lightman1 wrote: »
    Nekkid. So I can put my junk next to the drivers on a bass heavy track.
    Think about it.

    Does that ever result in an unsightly,sticky residue being deposited on said drivers ????? Ewwwww !:D
  • tx_polkhead
    tx_polkhead Posts: 248
    edited April 2009
    I like my RTA 12c's with the bottom grills off and the top hats on, I guess you guys are right and I should go ahead and upgrade the SL2000's. I like the SDA CRS+ with the grills off just so I can watch the mids dance!
    Polk Audio RTA 12c's, Monitor 7c, Monitor 5JR+, SDA CRS+
  • bikerboy
    bikerboy Posts: 1,211
    edited April 2009
    I like to look at my girls naked. They sound better that way too. I dont care what you think about it, I like it. And thats what its all about.

    I would like to see you guys do a blind comparison and nail it every time, to prove your "superior" ears. nduitch

    Dont think so.
    Main system: Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 w/ Pioneer 42" plazma-> Polk LSiM 703 w/Tivo, Marantz tuner, BRPTT: Nothingham Spacedeck-> Pioneer PL L1000 linear arm-> Soundsmith DL 103R-> SUT->Bottlehead ErosDigital: I3 PC w/ Jriver playing flac -> Sonore Ultrarendu -> Twisted Pair Audio ESS 9028 w/ Mercury IVY Vinyl rips: ESI Juli@24/192-> i3 PC server
  • rdupre
    rdupre Posts: 36
    edited April 2009
    I have never even thought of this. But I can see where there could be a difference between covers off or on depending on the material covering the grills.
  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited April 2009
    I don't want to hijack this thread, but on a similar subject, do people think as well with hats on?
    The world is full of answers, some are right and some are wrong. - Neil Young
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited April 2009
    dcmeigs wrote: »
    I don't want to hijack this thread, but on a similar subject, do people think as well with hats on?
    Depends upon which head...also, I'm convinced wearing a baseball cap everyday (probably the same one) for 8 or 9 years caused my youngest son to lose some hair. He's getting pretty thin in front and my family doesn't have the bald gene ;).

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited April 2009
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    Depends upon which head...also, I'm convinced wearing a baseball cap everyday (probably the same one) for 8 or 9 years caused my youngest son to lose some hair. He's getting pretty thin in front and my family doesn't have the bald gene ;).

    That happened to me. I don't think it matters though, as long as you don't remove the hat. That's where the thinking issue comes in. I might need to get one o' them Thinking Brain Dogs.
    The world is full of answers, some are right and some are wrong. - Neil Young