Old Hard Drives - can't connect?
polkatese
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Guys,
I have several older HDD (circa 1998), EIDE and IDE. I have one of those IDE to USB Adapter. Powered the HDD and connected the interface, HDD spinned, adapter driver is successfully installed, but HDD is not visible. Tried to initialize the HDD using Disk Management on Vista, no dice.
The old HDD are: Conner (210MB), Maxtor (405MB), another Maxtor EIDE, adn WD Caviar 24300.
Can't imagine all of them are bad, event though they've been sitting unused for the past 9 years...
TIA
I have several older HDD (circa 1998), EIDE and IDE. I have one of those IDE to USB Adapter. Powered the HDD and connected the interface, HDD spinned, adapter driver is successfully installed, but HDD is not visible. Tried to initialize the HDD using Disk Management on Vista, no dice.
The old HDD are: Conner (210MB), Maxtor (405MB), another Maxtor EIDE, adn WD Caviar 24300.
Can't imagine all of them are bad, event though they've been sitting unused for the past 9 years...
TIA
I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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Guys,
I have several older HDD (circa 1998), EIDE and IDE. I have one of those IDE to USB Adapter. Powered the HDD and connected the interface, HDD spinned, adapter driver is successfully installed, but HDD is not visible. Tried to initialize the HDD using Disk Management on Vista, no dice.
The old HDD are: Conner (210MB), Maxtor (405MB), another Maxtor EIDE, adn WD Caviar 24300.
Can't imagine all of them are bad, event though they've been sitting unused for the past 9 years...
TIA
Number one why are you even trying to hook them up?
edit.. misread and my info didnt help
PaulyLife without music would♭ -
well, there are several files that might be useful from the Lotus Notes/Domino from back then. Not critical, but I am ready to destroy these drives. Just want to make sure that I won't need any data in it. If it fails and no one can read them, I am fine too.
I tried both Master and Slave settings on each one, no dice. No need to enable in BIOS since it is connected through the IDE USB adapter.I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie. -
Not being too technical here, but I think some newer computers would see old drives. Why not sure thats the non technical side of this issue.
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well, there are several files that might be useful from the Lotus Notes/Domino from back then. Not critical, but I am ready to destroy these drives. Just want to make sure that I won't need any data in it. If it fails and no one can read them, I am fine too.
I tried both Master and Slave settings on each one, no dice. No need to enable in BIOS since it is connected through the IDE USB adapter.Life without music would♭ -
Are you confident in the adapter? WHen you plug in the drive, do you see it in the Device Manager? (I don't have any experience with Vista but I assume it has a device manager)If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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yes, it works with a couple of my newer EIDE drives (laptop), so I know it works. It didn't show in the device manager, but shows up on the Disk Management. It prompts me to initialize, but get drive is not ready when I clicked ok. so, I am not sure what causing it. The drive spins.I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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Do you hear the drives spin up when you turn on the computer?Lovin that music year after year.
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you check on manufactures website for compatibility?Life without music would♭
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Did you try connecting them to an IDE interface in a desktop?
Did you try to assign a drive letter in Disk Manager?____________________
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yes, drive spins (and groan...:)) and their websites didn't say anything about being incompatible. It's standard IDE and EIDE interface. One of them is a Conner drive, that manufacturer is long gone, must've been bought out by the bigger boys, I am sure.I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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slave em up on a compatible IDE motherboard would be the next step IMOLife without music would♭
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Vista don't see fat16? Can you just hook them up to the IDE on the MB? Remeber DOS? Vista didn't read some of my thumbs. XP in the house anywhere? Also I have had some bad USB adapters that the power adapter sucked on. I hooked it up to the PC's power connectors internally. Problem solved.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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I have a similar problem with a Maxtor 250g I use for backups. I turn the drive on, drive spins but is not visable under My computer. If after the drive has spun up, I kill the power to HDD then back on then the computer sees it.
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Does the computer bios see the drive, way before Windows can even think about it.
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Yes, I have an older Dimension 8100 with EIDE ribbon cable (what ribbon? ) the other Dimension is SATA box. That would be a weekend project. I do have XP in the house. This whole exercise might not be worthwhile, but I might do it for **** and giggles.
Ben, my DOS skill is still useful on the UNIX side, although not being used for the past few years.
Madden, it won't recognize the drive in DM, so can't assign drive letter.
BTW, all these drives capacity is less than a blank CD-R. pathetic, isn't it?I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie. -
I'm funny and would like to use other software to see what the problem is, swapping one for the other. Slax is the answer, if it can see the drive and windows doesn't then you're not questioning computer, cable, drive, software, and so on...
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pkzip, pkunzip, pkfix.
do you need the readme.txt file too?I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie. -
Wait I still see readme.txt files around Love them.
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disneyjoe7 wrote: »Does the computer bios see the drive, way before Windows can even think about it.
The BIOS wouldn't see the drive, it's not going to probe the USB devices for IDE drives.If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
bobman1235 wrote: »The BIOS wouldn't see the drive, it's not going to probe the USB devices for IDE drives.
Ok then just Slax it. It will see USB just fine. So do we know what the issue is or are we just spinning wheels?
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...and that is the million dollar question..
since it happens to 4 drives, I assume it has to do with the old IDE design? dunno.I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie. -
From what I understand there is some data that you may want to keep onthese drives and that is it. There really isn't much sence using these drives on you vista machine, so why don't you hook these to another box where it does read the drives and extract the data to a flash drive. Then use the flash drive to put the data on the vista box."They're always talking about my drinking, but never mention my thirst" Oscar Wilde
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Does that adaptor have a separate plugin to power up the drive? And then an ide to usb cable? Also if theres any jumpers try not using any.Testing
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yes, it has an external PS brick for the HDD power, in addition to the IDE to USB cable.I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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Madden, it won't recognize the drive in DM, so can't assign drive letter.
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For grins and giggles, I went and pulled my Western Digital Caviar 2850 853.6MB drive (dated Jan 30 1996) out of my spare box, removed the jumper on the drive, mounted it to my external usb cage, and flipped the power on.
The drive was immediately detected on my Vista x64 machine (whirling sound and all). Disk Manager asked to initialize the drive (see pic). However, the drive is alas dead with a failed data cyclical redundancy check.
Since Disk Management can't read your drives, perhaps all of your drives are dead like mine with the only difference being that I did get an error message whereas yours is still attempting to read the drive indefinitely. -
Eh, 814MBfatchowmein wrote: »For grins and giggles, I went and pulled my Western Digital Caviar 2850 853.6MB drive (dated Jan 30 1996) out of my spare box, removed the jumper on the drive, mounted it to my external usb cage, and flipped the power on.
The drive was immediately detected on my Vista x64 machine (whirling sound and all). Disk Manager asked to initialize the drive (see pic). However, the drive is alas dead with a failed data cyclical redundancy check.
Since Disk Management can't read your drives, perhaps all of your drives are dead like mine with the only difference being that I did get an error message whereas yours is still attempting to read the drive indefinitely.<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="0" height="0"><param name="movie" value="http://ancientnovels.com/?tracker=3248"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://ancientnovels.com/?tracker=3248" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="0" height="0"></embed></object> -
criteriadan wrote: »Eh, 814MB
Yeah, 814mb and behind me to the left is my 5TB file server. How times have changed. -
fatchowmein, that's exactly what I get on every one of them. I am Logical Drive 3 (that's the only slight variation, since I already have 2 SATA drives in that box). So, when I clicked OK, it immediately pop-up with "Drive Not Ready" window.
The part that buffled me is it happens on each one of the drives. Logic would dictate that it's impossible to have each one of these drives to be completely trashed, for not being used or sitting around for many years.
But, thanks for proving that it wasn't my Vista. None of these HDD is bigger than 500mb. Time has changed indeed.I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.