SDA-1B's with Heil Tweeters Do-able?

wingzam
wingzam Posts: 201
edited January 2009 in Vintage Speakers
I just picked up a pair of ESS AMT-1 towers with Heil tweeters ($50).Woofers were shot so figured I could try the tweeters on the SDA's.Apparently they're 4ohms.I'm not a tech so need to ask if I need to change the crossovers and how,or can I hook them right up?How would I wire the two onboard tweeters to the single Heil?
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2009
    Trust me the answer is no. Even with good XO modeling software, an SPL meter in a good environment, lots of experimenting, and luck you would have so much time/frustration into it. Just get the RDO's, new caps and resistors, and be done with it.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,213
    edited January 2009
    +1000.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Trust me the answer is no. Even with good XO modeling software, an SPL meter in a good environment, lots of experimenting, and luck you would have so much time/frustration into it. Just get the RDO's, new caps and resistors, and be done with it.

    Can you tell me what RDO means?
  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited January 2009
    I bet you could get a good buck for those Heils if their still functional.


    As mentioned you would need to completely re-engineering the crossover to use them in your SDA's.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2009
    It might be do-able, but some things are just sick and wrong :(

    Sell the AMT's on eBay and be done with it.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited January 2009
    dkg999 wrote: »
    It might be do-able, but some things are just sick and wrong :(

    Sell the AMT's on eBay and be done with it.

    x2.
    wingzam wrote: »
    Can you tell me what RDO means?

    Not sure what it stands for, but those are the tweeters that you can get from Polk to upgrade your SDA's.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited January 2009
    wingzam wrote: »
    Can you tell me what RDO means?
    I'm guessing ,Ring Dome something ...
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  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
    dkg999 wrote: »
    It might be do-able, but some things are just sick and wrong :(

    Sell the AMT's on eBay and be done with it.

    Geez you guys!
  • wainemaine
    wainemaine Posts: 3
    edited January 2009
    Those AMT heil tweeters are gold, They sell regular on Ebay for over 200/ pair. And the AMT 's had room shaking bass and are desirable but very power hungry, refoam them , sell them ! And put the money into your Polk system with updated tweeters and caps and coils if you can.
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,393
    edited January 2009
    GV#27 wrote: »
    I'm guessing ,Ring Dome something ...

    From what I understand, the SLxxxx series of tweeters was named after the Polk Audio engineer who developed them (Stu Lumsden ?). I am nor sure where RDO came from.
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  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
    About $300+/pair actually...I generally don't like to let go of gold when I find it so may put these on display till I can figure out a way to use them...perhaps bi-amped,after i've learned more.Still in the process of recapping,etc. my amp....Will have to practice PATIENCE!!! and remember to practice PATIENCE!!!
  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
    So what are the best RDO's for the SDA -1B's?Anybody got a part number??
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited January 2009
    wingzam wrote: »
    About $300+/pair actually...I generally don't like to let go of gold when I find it so may put these on display till I can figure out a way to use them...perhaps bi-amped,after i've learned more.Still in the process of recapping,etc. my amp....Will have to practice PATIENCE!!! and remember to practice PATIENCE!!!

    Having patience is one of the hardest things to deal with in this hobby...it's worth it in the long run though.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,213
    edited January 2009
    wingzam wrote: »
    So what are the best RDO's for the SDA -1B's?Anybody got a part number??

    RD0194-1, call Polk CS, tell them you're a club member for a discount. $102 a pr shipped to your door 2 day fedex.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited January 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    RD0194-1, call Polk CS, tell them you're a club member for a discount. $102 a pr shipped to your door 2 day fedex.

    H9


    if you haven't heard the B's with a least the tweeter upgrade, then you havent really heard them.

    I had the B's with the RDO's...... loved em, sold em, miss the f&*k out the them!
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  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
    Ohkigod,you said "at least the tweeter upgrade".What other upgrades are available?
  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
    Is it possible to get a capacitor/resistor upgrade "kit" so that I can skip all the searching/choosing/head scratching advice etc..and just get the job done?
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited January 2009
    wingzam wrote: »
    Is it possible to get a capacitor/resistor upgrade "kit" so that I can skip all the searching/choosing/head scratching advice etc..and just get the job done?

    nope. but there are tons of threads in here about updating the crossovers for nearly every model of SDA ever made.
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  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
    Ya,I really love those search results!!!!!
  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
    I'm searching the forums and am getting no matches - WTF am I doing wrong???????
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2009
    Search the tags, or double click the tags. I will put together a parts list for you later.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
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  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
    I'm getting nothing and I can't figure out what i'm doing wrong.Am searching tags,threads,posts with SDA-1B,SDA-1B upgrade,updates,SDA-1B crossover,SDA,SDA upgrade,updates,crossover....Nothing.
  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
    Nothing like looking like a lame ****!!
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited January 2009
    wingzam wrote: »
    I'm getting nothing and I can't figure out what i'm doing wrong.Am searching tags,threads,posts with SDA-1B,SDA-1B upgrade,updates,SDA-1B crossover,SDA,SDA upgrade,updates,crossover....Nothing.

    The search function on here is pretty bad IMO. It has a bit of a learning curve to say the least.
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    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
    Well hell,NOW i'm pulling up info from the same search i've been doing!WTF?????
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited January 2009
    wingzam wrote: »
    That helps!

    Doesn't it? I haven't mastered the search function on here yet myself really. You've just gotta try different ways of saying the same thing...and search through a million posts.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • wingzam
    wingzam Posts: 201
    edited January 2009
    ......And as i'm searching those million posts i'm getting sidetracked Big time cause they're so interesting.....
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2009
    search-tag search, and there is a list of tags. Click on one of the tags;)
    You don't have to type anything in the search box;)
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    Thanks
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  • wainemaine
    wainemaine Posts: 3
    edited January 2009
    You can pick up any small amp feed it with a small capacitor in the input, ( very small cap. google for high impedance crossover points) and just set the whole tweeter on top and see if it helps !