Think their SDA's but wich model?

Braddles
Braddles Posts: 228
edited May 2008 in Vintage Speakers
G'day from oz guys.

Have a chance to get my hands on these on ebay here in oz.

Look like a early SDA to me but thought i would turn to those who would know better than i. Any idea's?

Any idea what i should be looking to pay for them? What would they go for in the US?

Cheers
Brad
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited May 2008
    It's early,, but they look like SDA2 A's
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2008
    I agree, they are probably 2A's.

    What is he asking? Is the cable included?
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2008
    Sal, you're correct. I thought the only 2B that came in that style cabinet was the studio version like mine, hence why I thought it was a 2A.

    As Sal mentioned, you'll have to check out the back of the speaker to positively identify the model.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited May 2008
    According to the compendium the the 2B either came with Oak or Walnut endcaps or a vinyl wrapped black studio cabinet w/o end caps.

    My guess is most likely a 2A but 1 way to tell for sure (because like Sal mentioned there are transition models) is the drivers are both MW6510 the 2A will have no external fuse.

    The 2B's (cabinet type withstanding) can have blade/blade inter-connect like the 2A's but the drivers are different in the 2B the drivers are MW6511 and MW6503. Only the earliest 1987- 2B's had the blade/blade interconnect. The later models had pin/blade. All 2B's used the same x-over which was different than the version in the 2A.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited May 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    if they are 2B then there will be a sticker in the back of a letter "B"

    Not true in all cases.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited May 2008
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited May 2008
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Not true in all cases.

    Agreed. Mine are blade/blade 2B from '87, no "B" after the 2 on the back. Aren't the SDA's fun to keep track of. :p
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited May 2008
    To the best of my recollection 2B's only came with the studio cabinet in black. With the cabinet style shown in the photo it's very likely it's a 2A. But SDA's are fun to identify solely based on photo's so anything is possible.

    Obviously 2b's command a little more coin so keep that in mind when purchasing.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited May 2008
    I might be a little jaded as to value but I'll give a shot

    If they are 2A's

    Excellent cond. w/cable $200
    Very Good cond. w/cable $150-160
    Good cond. w/cable $125-150
    Poor cond. pass.

    subtract $25-40 for missing cable. If it's blade/blade you can still get it from Polk I think they are $50.

    If they are 2B's

    Excellent cond w/cable $250-275
    Very Good cond. w/cable $185-225
    Good cond. w/cable $140-160
    Poor cond. pass

    Drivers are still avail from Polk for $48 each. The passive radiators are no longer avail.

    This is all ball park and a IMO, a general guide.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited May 2008
    2A's
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited May 2008
    2A's IIRC all of the 2b's have the tweeter mounted horizontally. The cabinet's are close, mine have the smae style.
  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited May 2008
    My 2b's have Oak end caps and vertically mounted tweeters

    ( This pic was when I first got them...the original owner put SL-3000's in them...I swapped those out for the original SL-2000's thanks to Ron T )

    Oh and they are Pin/Blade
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  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited May 2008
    I think pulling the drivers is really the only way to know for sure. Polk used pin/pin ICs in this transitional model too. There are few hard and fast rules.

    I have a pair of these with pin/pin connections (and black 1A cabinets). I thought they were 2As when I bought them last year. I was ready to buy RD0194s and took the PR out to have a look at the crossover, just to make sure.

    Suprise! They are SDA-2Bs in the older 2A cabinet. They have the rectangular SDA CRS+ crossover, the 16 gauge wiring, the MW6503 and MW6509 drivers (dated July 1988) and a vertical SL2000.

    Certainly good news. I've ordered the RD0198s and caps for the TL upgrade!

    Braddles, I'd think either 2A or 2B is going to be a good speaker for you, but like Hiney9, I'd pay a good premium to have the 2Bs. BTW-I think Heiney9s pricing is about right.
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,341
    edited May 2008
    If they work Braddles, go get them. These are some of the most musical SDA's. There are a few mods tha tyou can do to make them perform better for not much cost. You will spend a lot of money to buy speakers that sound as good and the SDA-2's.

    Good luck!
    Carl

  • Braddles
    Braddles Posts: 228
    edited May 2008
    Thanks for the advice guys but as things go i have another question.

    A pair of mint cond RTA11's are also available with the orig packing boxes.
    The guy said they have white tweeters so i'd say they are the first series with the sl2000's. Haven't seen them yet.
    I know from regular visits here that the RTA series have the reputation of the best sounding NON SDA speaker Polk made.

    So what do you guys think?

    Should i go for the SADA2's(yes the guy has the sda cable) or the RTA11's.
    Asking Prices are $500.00 aus for the sda's & $750 aus for the rta's.

    I know that sound alot for what they are going for in the states but you have to remember that back when these were new $1 australian was worth 50 US cents. So both these were over $3,000.00 new.

    Cheers
    Brad
    2 Channel
    Amp - Jas Audio Bravo 3.2 set
    Power Cord - Tunami GPX
    CDP - Marantz cd6002 - Audio gd Ref 5 Dac
    Speakers - Tekton Lore,Polk Audio RTA11tl completely refreshed.
  • Braddles
    Braddles Posts: 228
    edited May 2008
    I think i will start a new thread with this one!
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    Amp - Jas Audio Bravo 3.2 set
    Power Cord - Tunami GPX
    CDP - Marantz cd6002 - Audio gd Ref 5 Dac
    Speakers - Tekton Lore,Polk Audio RTA11tl completely refreshed.
  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited May 2008
    I would go with the SDA2's. My personal preference.
  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited May 2008
    I wouldn't pay more for the RTAs.
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