I'm a noob and need help with my underpowered system

jo_boy04
jo_boy04 Posts: 2
edited April 2008 in Speakers
OKAY. Here is the situation. I recently upgraded my speakers from a cheap all in one solution to LSi line up. I didnt get the towers for the fronts, instead I got LSi 7 bookshelfs because of kids. I also bought (because of recommendation from Best Buy Guy) a Onkyo SR805 off ebay. It says it will give 130W per channel. But I set it up and it sounds weak. I want to know if there are any "add on" solutions without having to resell the amp? I also have the LSiFX rears and LSiC center. thanks
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited April 2008
    I think the Onk 805 has pre amp outputs, so your best bet now is to add an amp. What you called an amp we call a receiver / AVR Audio Video Receiver. But beware not many AVR's (if any) could drive the LSi series speakers being that they are 4 ohms.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • Imperitor
    Imperitor Posts: 235
    edited April 2008
    You can add an external amp for more power. The onkyo 805 has the right connections for this set-up. If you want to get the most out of those LSI's you'll probably need a pretty powerful external amp. So of the other guys on the form can give you some good suggestions.
    7.1 HOME THEATER:
    Center: CSi3
    Front: RTi10
    Surround: RTi A3
    Rear Surround: RTi4
    Subwoofer: Mirage Omni S10
    TV: Sharp Aquos 42" 1080p LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR805
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  • jpolz
    jpolz Posts: 15
    edited April 2008
    Look into the the Emotive LPA-1 or XPA-5.
    Mains: Polk LSi15
    Pre/Pro: Yamaha RX-V663
    Amplifier: Emotiva LPA-1
    Subwoofer: KLH ASW8-120b
  • seeclear
    seeclear Posts: 1,243
    edited April 2008
    Read through the "pure disappointment" thread in this same section. ;-)
    "Don't forget to change your politician. They are like diapers they need to be changed regularly, and for the same reason."
  • demaples
    demaples Posts: 266
    edited April 2008
    Hello, I did the same thing. After much help from folks on here and hopefully them being patient I went with a Rotel RMB-1077.

    Hitachi 50" Plasma full HD 1080--Onkyo 805 AVR
    Rotel RMB-1077 amp--Polk LSic center
    Polk LSi25 fronts--Polk LSi 15 rears
    Genesis G-2800 sides--Polk PSW 650 sub
    APC H15 power conditioner--Netgear digital media player
    Napster external hardrive--Linksys Wireless G router
    Samsung DVD--Blue Jeans wires
  • demaples
    demaples Posts: 266
    edited April 2008

    Hitachi 50" Plasma full HD 1080--Onkyo 805 AVR
    Rotel RMB-1077 amp--Polk LSic center
    Polk LSi25 fronts--Polk LSi 15 rears
    Genesis G-2800 sides--Polk PSW 650 sub
    APC H15 power conditioner--Netgear digital media player
    Napster external hardrive--Linksys Wireless G router
    Samsung DVD--Blue Jeans wires
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2008
    I saw a member reported hw used an Arcam amp with outstanding results for the LSI bookshelfs, the amp is 70watts a channel of pure clean power. Its about power, not watts per say.

    RT1
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited April 2008
    Welcome JoBoy.

    Read through this thread for this never ending debate & decide for yourself how much wattage/power/ampres..blah blah blah you want to get.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66595

    Whatever you decide to get, think about getting an amp used from Audiogon. You will get more amp for your money that way.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2008
    The LSi7's are pretty easy to drive, compared to the other LSi speakers. Before we go whole-hog with upgrading (and I actually hurt when I say that :) ) could you describe more about why you think your system sounds "weak". This might help us understand better what to recommend.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2008
    jo boy I have used Oinkers for many years, they are fine receivers, but if you are running all those speakers off of it, it really cannot supply the 130 watts to each channel at once, in the education section of the website there is an article about this explaining how all watts are not created equally, you might want to give it a look.

    RT1
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2008
    There is an acurus 3 channel amp in the flea market now. Under $500 and would move the front stage of your home theater off the 805 and let it just handle the rear 2 channels. Would make a great addition to the LSi's (as some people find the acurus a little on the bright side and the LSi's are a laid back speaker) and should provide some really good synergy.

    Your 805 should be fine running your rear speakers.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited April 2008
    At this point, Polk should just throw an Outlaw monoblock in with every Lsi speaker...sheesh.
    Venom
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,019
    edited April 2008
    Seems like the dude could stand a decent sub to go along with the 7's.Maybe thats what he means by sounding "weak".Aside from the amp issue of coarse.
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  • jo_boy04
    jo_boy04 Posts: 2
    edited April 2008
    No Ive got a Velodyne DLS 4000R
    Seems like the dude could stand a decent sub to go along with the 7's.Maybe thats what he means by sounding "weak".Aside from the amp issue of coarse.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,809
    edited April 2008
    Can you describe weak in better terms? Is it not loud enough? Are the sounds not clear? Etc.
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