Don't buy SDA's if you can't handle a wall of music thrown at you

candyliquor35m

and surrounding you and engulfing you like a cloud of smoke even at moderate listening levels. It's eerie when you get it right.

It's not the tweeters fault if they make your ears hurt and give you a headache although the tweeters can be improved on by changing their crossover point so that a smaller range of the harsh mids are passed to the tweeters. What you are hearing is the sda effect which is only accentuated by the very musical, detailed and precisely clear tweeters.

I don't listen to headphones because they give me a headache. The SDA's come close to that same effect because their goal was to eliminate crosstalk like headphones do. Matt and his team accomplished that beyond any reasonable doubt. So much so that they give some listeners a headache.

Yes you can buy the rd0's but you will lose the wall of music and end up with a pair of generic sounding speakers.

SDA's should come with a warning label not new tweeters

John in MA

Does anyone have a CL35m>English translator they can run this through?

heiney9

candyliquor35m wrote: »

It's not the tweeters fault if they make your ears hurt and give you a headache

Who's fault is it then, the passive radiator; the 20 gauge internal wiring; the lack of cabinet support? Really, what annoys me other than you and the sl2000 tweeter?

Funny how when I had a pair of Athena's same music same set-up exactly and no headache or hurting ears. I had a pair of LSi's, again same exact music and same exact set-up, no unnatural resonance, no headaches. I know have SDA's with RD0's; same exact music, same exact set-up. No headaches or resonance or 5 dB hump at 13.5 kHZ or poor vocals and unnatural sounding piano notes.

Had 5B's with the sl2000-- horrible; rebuilt x-over kept sl2000-- unlistenable; purchased RD0's-- now they sound great, better than ever.

The tweeter is flawed..................PERIOD!

Have a nice fantasy filled weekend

H9

TroyD

...another sense-free thread started by your local crackpot.

heiney9

candyliquor35m wrote: »

Yes you can buy the rd0's but you will lose the wall of music and end up with a pair of generic sounding speakers.

SDA's should come with a warning label not new tweeters

Absolutely NOT TRUE and probably the worst information you've given out so far. I predict your SDA's won't sound good in a padded room. I have a feeling you will have an opportunity to find out real soon. :rolleyes:

H9

NJPOLKER

I really feel no one should respond to "him" and maybe he will go away. I have said this before, this moron writes these things just to be a jerk and I am certain most everyone knows that. Treat "him" like the child he is and hopefully he will go away. And if he does not go away maybe he will become bored and go play with his Barbie dolls.

heiney9

NJPOLKER wrote: »

I really feel no one should respond to "him" and maybe he will go away. I have said this before, this moron writes these things just to be a jerk and I am certain most everyone knows that. Treat "him" like the child he is and hopefully he will go away. And if he does not go away maybe he will become bored and go play with his Barbie dolls.

Yes and no. I respond so someone coming in new or as a visitor gets the whole story and not just CL35M's delusions. No, he won't go away even if he is ignored. It's been tried, think of the **** roach and it's ability to survive under any conditions including nuclear war and you get what I mean.

H9

Face

I want to know why his ban was removed.

heiney9

Face wrote: »

I want to know why his ban was removed.

That is the question of the day

F1nut

Once again, just a bunch of poo nuggets.

engtaz

so not right LOL

engtaz

Neskahi

As an observer only, of this SL2000"WC" theory. Has anyone else on the forum
actually heard or tried the modification?

heiney9

engtaz wrote: »

so not right LOL

engtaz

Atleast the nuggets are gray and not.....................well you get what I'm saying. Pretty damn funny if you ask me.

heiney9

Neskahi wrote: »

As an observer only, of this SL2000"WC" theory. Has anyone else on the forum
actually heard or tried the modification?

Don't really need to. The theory is all wrong and a member actually ran a graph w/ the sl2000WC vs. the sl2000 and that's why the sl2000WC is referred to as the "big suckout" since the graph showed a huge dip at certain frequencies not even associated with the 13kHz peak.

I don't have to drive a Yugo to tell it's not a great idea for a vehicle. Same goes here, it's pretty far off the grid the way he uses it. I'm glad it works for him, but his incessant posting about it in many threads not even remotely related to it is what I object to. Also he makes blanket statements like the one in this thread that have no basis and are as ludicrous as his "WC" mod.

For a noob or visitor his statements which come across as fact are dangerous.

H9

candyliquor35m

Attack and call names all you want. I'm laughing all the way to the bank with $800 in savings

domesda2b

I only had to buy two.

avguytx

candyliquor35m wrote: »

and surrounding you and engulfing you like a cloud of smoke even at moderate listening levels. It's eerie when you get it right.

It's not the tweeters fault if they make your ears hurt and give you a headache although the tweeters can be improved on by changing their crossover point so that a smaller range of the harsh mids are passed to the tweeters. What you are hearing is the sda effect which is only accentuated by the very musical, detailed and precisely clear tweeters.

I don't listen to headphones because they give me a headache. The SDA's come close to that same effect because their goal was to eliminate crosstalk like headphones do. Matt and his team accomplished that beyond any reasonable doubt. So much so that they give some listeners a headache.

Yes you can buy the rd0's but you will lose the wall of music and end up with a pair of generic sounding speakers.

SDA's should come with a warning label not new tweeters

This is the biggest bunch of BS that's come out so far.

domesda2b

He must have some kind of smoke I agree

avguytx

candyliquor35m wrote: »

Attack and call names all you want. I'm laughing all the way to the bank with $800 in savings

Ok. I stand corrected. This made no sense either.

It will never end....

heiney9

domesda2b wrote: »

I only had to buy two.

They're $400 a piece

Libertyc

After reading this thread I need some kind of smoke...

domesda2b

No around 100 bucks delivered so if they don't sound as good or not happy whoop dee doo guess they got me.

candyliquor35m

Do the math. I have 16 sl2000's (well now 20 counting the 1b's) in 4 pairs of sda's. So make that $1000 in savings

This thread isn't about tweeters but if you want to re-hash something that's already been discussed, knock yourself out.

This thread is about the incredible soundstage of the sda's.

domesda2b

I'd rather talk about replacing the capacitors on my crossover than resistors on a some tweeter...

treitz3

No, it's quite obvious by now that it's another one of your weird threads put out there so that you have somebody to talk to. Sad actually.

What the hell is your deal dude? Did you not get the hint the first time you got banned?

John in MA

candyliquor35m wrote: »

Attack and call names all you want.

I'm sure we appreciate the offer regardless, but can you clarify "attack?"

domesda2b

Tweeter dee tweeter dum dome

candyliquor35m

treitz3 wrote: »

No, it's quite

Please don't put words in my mouth. This thread has nothing to do with anything you just mentioned.

domesda2b

I've never seen anything like this before in my life. Argue about pretty capacitors and tweeter resistors.. I like it.

treitz3

Oh brother, what have I gone and done? I gave him someone to talk to. My bad. I'm outta here. Not worth my time.

Carl, you need help man, seriously.

Deadof_knight

Hey now he could be suffering from shell shock or something I mean his hearing is probably bad , so dont rag him if he cant hear the difference ! well he cant hear the difference ............WHO CARES!

just chimming in !