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Time to put him back on my ignore list. I suggest other do as well.
What the heck happened to make you take him off???Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
Well, McLoki, thanks for digging up this old thread !
Sal Palooza -
Someone was smart enough to ban him so he didn't need to be there. Then someone got dumb & let him back in!:eek:
Then it became the same old *hit, different year, cause he obviously didn't change his MO!:rolleyes:What the heck happened to make you take him off???Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
I think it was Tom T Hall the country singer/storyteller from the 70's?
Tom T. Hall = Old Dogs and Children and Watermelon Wine
"How old do you think I am," he said?
I said, well, I didn't know.
He said, "I turned 65 about 11 months ago."
I was sittin' in Miami, pouring blended whiskey down
When this old gray, black gentleman was cleaning up the lounge.
There wasn't anyone around, except this old man and me.
The guy who ran the bar was watching Ironside on TV.
Uninvited, he sat down and opened up his mind
On old dogs and children and watermelon wine.
"Ever had a drink of watermelon wine," he asked.
He told me all about it, though I didn't answer back.
"Ain't but three things in this world that's worth a solitary dime,
But old dogs and children and watermelon wine."
He said, "Women think about themselves, when men-folk ain't around.
And friends are hard to find when they discover that you're down."
He said, "I tried it all when I was young and in my natural prime,
Now it's old dogs and children and watermelon wine."
"Old dogs care about you even when you make mistakes.
God bless little children while they're still to young to hate."
When he moved away I found my pen and copied down that line
About old dogs and children and watermelon wine.
I had to catch a plane up to Atlanta that next day.
As I left for my room I saw him picking up my change.
That night I dreamed in peaceful sleep of shady summertime,
Of old dogs and children and watermelon wine -
It's called passive/aggressive.
Poke people with a stick and then act surprised and the outcome and cry that wasn't the intent.
A sheer lack of testicular fortitude.
I don't like putting people on ignore and Carl doesn't want to fit in. He wants attention. If it's negative, so be it. Pretty sad if you think about it.I plan for the future. - F1Nut -
It's called passive/aggressive.
Poke people with a stick and then act surprised and the outcome and cry that wasn't the intent.
A sheer lack of testicular fortitude.
I don't like putting people on ignore and Carl doesn't want to fit in. He wants attention. If it's negative, so be it. Pretty sad if you think about it.
Nail on the head and all that stuff. Pretty sad indeed.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Why not help elsewhere in this forum and leave well alone? Is there really a need for the rhetoric? This is just lame to read from week to week. It reflects poorly on the forum and membership. Some of you folks are standard bearers for Polk Audio at large and that means alot.
I'm sorry, you don't have to agree with me and call me a heretic, core hater, not a member of the team but its just old, uninteresting and counterproductive.
It's time to let bygones be bygones and ramp up for Polkfest 2008 and not worry about responding to every thread this individual creates. Let him do what he does and focus on the more important areas of the forum.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
Hmmmmm...taken under advisement.
Here's my thing though......I really don't have an issue with alternative views. What I do have an issue with is just throwing **** out there for the simple fact of starting ****. I mean NOTHING this **** posts is audio related. NOTHING.
Me, I'm tired of it. You know, over the years, I've put a lot of time and effort into this forum. I'd like to think that does count for something. Something along the lines of, wow, if the membership as a whole is crying foul over something, perhaps we should address that concern as well. That's just me though....and I'd like that if someone pisses me off, there usually a legit reason why.
I'm not one who has ever tried to use my 'stature', for lack of a better term, for leverage to get my way. Nor am I one to moan about how things were in the good old days.....but for me, this sort of crap is one reason that my posting here has decreased dramatically. I'm tired of wading through f**king spam and worthless threads. For example, if you want to talk about cars, COOL. F**k me though, I can read the craiglist ads on my own. Want to talk about what you look for online? Cool, but to just say audiogon/ebay: I ain't saying? C'mon, that's horseshit. I'd rather have a couple of good threads going that I can take time and read than 20 that range from personally invasive to completely inane. Does THAT reflect well on Polk Audio?? You know, a lot of people come and go but I think if you polled some that have been around for awhile and ask what the #1 reasont that we don't participate as much as we did it boils down to the fact that the THD is astronomically high...and if we **** about it, we are the ones that are handed the crayons. Again, it's not that anyone deserves special attention but if there is grumbling in the rank and file, perhaps there is a substantive reason. I, for one, feel that those concerns are not being heard and that our goodwill is largely taken for granted. Me, I'm done with it. Let Carl run PF, help out the newbies, give people free gear etc etc. Let me know how that all works out.
Eh, whatever. I guess it doesn't really matter all that much, does it?
TroyI plan for the future. - F1Nut -
He is a freakin tard. Troy nailed it with "It's called passive/aggressive." His whole purpose here is to piss people off. I would so love it if he joined rat in banishment. His crap advice he gives to newbies (sometimes in PM) is actually taken seriously by them. Carl is a major disservice to this forum, and should be gone!Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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Hmmmmm...taken under advisement.
Here's my thing though......I really don't have an issue with alternative views. What I do have an issue with is just throwing **** out there for the simple fact of starting ****. I mean NOTHING this **** posts is audio related. NOTHING.
Me, I'm tired of it. You know, over the years, I've put a lot of time and effort into this forum. I'd like to think that does count for something. Something along the lines of, wow, if the membership as a whole is crying foul over something, perhaps we should address that concern as well. That's just me though....and I'd like that if someone pisses me off, there usually a legit reason why.
I'm not one who has ever tried to use my 'stature', for lack of a better term, for leverage to get my way. Nor am I one to moan about how things were in the good old days.....but for me, this sort of crap is one reason that my posting here has decreased dramatically. I'm tired of wading through f**king spam and worthless threads. For example, if you want to talk about cars, COOL. F**k me though, I can read the craiglist ads on my own. Want to talk about what you look for online? Cool, but to just say audiogon/ebay: I ain't saying? C'mon, that's horseshit. I'd rather have a couple of good threads going that I can take time and read than 20 that range from personally invasive to completely inane. Does THAT reflect well on Polk Audio?? You know, a lot of people come and go but I think if you polled some that have been around for awhile and ask what the #1 reasont that we don't participate as much as we did it boils down to the fact that the THD is astronomically high...and if we **** about it, we are the ones that are handed the crayons. Again, it's not that anyone deserves special attention but if there is grumbling in the rank and file, perhaps there is a substantive reason. I, for one, feel that those concerns are not being heard and that our goodwill is largely taken for granted. Me, I'm done with it. Let Carl run PF, help out the newbies, give people free gear etc etc. Let me know how that all works out.
Eh, whatever. I guess it doesn't really matter all that much, does it?
Troy
I'll latch on to that "what have you done for Polk" mantra but how does Carl "run" Polk Forum? Just because he posts threads that have no general interest amongst the core or group? Aren't you the type of individual giving him special attention? I don't care what he posts, why should I? It's an open user forum with rules...wow, that's groundbreaking.
As far as SPAM goes, you folks deal with NOTHING. You may get a "reported" post in from time to time but you do NOTHING. That reported post is meaningless. We get rid of SPAM in a record pace on this forum...maybe not as fast as others but give me a break. The post/threads disappear and we're all the better for it in the end. Let me know how troubled and forlorn you are about SPAM....are you kidding me?
In regards to worthless threads, isn't that about perspective? Is Candy liable for most of them, as a group congress? Yes. But is it really that interesting to talk about, in every thread, in every post, by the same group of people....day after day after day. The threads COULD simply roll into the next day but the responses renew it into garage band freshness all the time.
Hey, maybe I'm just blind here but since when did any, single member "run" the forum? and become the sole contact for everything Polk Audio? Isn't that what other members are for? Isn't that what the hardcore members are for? Disagreement is one thing but endless BS is just lame. You guys just log in, read, post.....do you have any idea of what I have to read? or Justin? or Al Ballard? or Matt Polk? No, you don't, you simply post. And that's a direct reflection of you....yep, you. Let the crazy people be crazy. They usually weed themselves out anyways. Aside from the current issue, is it really that crazy here? Seriously?
Don't think for one second that my interests aren't for this forum and for the greater knowledge of the collective. So take that sarcastic crap back to where you found it. Go F yourself Troy.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
Hey, maybe I'm just blind here but since when did any, single member "run" the forum? and become the sole contact for everything Polk Audio?
I was unaware that position was open. Where do I apply? (Yes, I know a name change will be required)Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
Sorry Mark, you're off base on this one. Troy has nailed the pulse of the forum in general on this matter.
BTW, PF is Polkfest, not the Polk Forum.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
The pulse of the forum? I bet I could count that pulse on two hands but so be it. Unbelievable. Grown men.....grown freaking men. I guess I'm just an idiot and a child.
I would suggest everyone put me on ignore, immediately, as I have nothing to offer this place.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
I'll latch on to that "what have you done for Polk" mantra but how does Carl "run" Polk Forum? Just because he posts threads that have no general interest amongst the core or group? Aren't you the type of individual giving him special attention? I don't care what he posts, why should I? It's an open user forum with rules...wow, that's groundbreaking.
As far as SPAM goes, you folks deal with NOTHING. You may get a "reported" post in from time to time but you do NOTHING. That reported post is meaningless. We get rid of SPAM in a record pace on this forum...maybe not as fast as others but give me a break. The post/threads disappear and we're all the better for it in the end. Let me know how troubled and forlorn you are about SPAM....are you kidding me?
In regards to worthless threads, isn't that about perspective? Is Candy liable for most of them, as a group congress? Yes. But is it really that interesting to talk about, in every thread, in every post, by the same group of people....day after day after day. The threads COULD simply roll into the next day but the responses renew it into garage band freshness all the time.
Hey, maybe I'm just blind here but since when did any, single member "run" the forum? and become the sole contact for everything Polk Audio? Isn't that what other members are for? Isn't that what the hardcore members are for? Disagreement is one thing but endless BS is just lame. You guys just log in, read, post.....do you have any idea of what I have to read? or Justin? or Al Ballard? or Matt Polk? No, you don't, you simply post. And that's a direct reflection of you....yep, you. Let the crazy people be crazy. They usually weed themselves out anyways. Aside from the current issue, is it really that crazy here? Seriously?
Don't think for one second that my interests aren't for this forum and for the greater knowledge of the collective. So take that sarcastic crap back to where you found it. Go F yourself Troy.
If you don't like the job. Quit. I've ALWAYS supported the mods here. ALWAYS. Don't hand me the oh, woe is me and my lot in life. It's a cop out.
Look at CL35's threads. If he has something of value to add, I let it ride. The horseshit, it's horseshit and I don't mind saying it. There once was a time that you did too so don't hand ME the holier than thou mantra.
Go F myself? For offering honest thought and feedback? Kiss my ****. You lob a grenade in MY direction and I'm going to lob back.
Fine, f*king ban me. You think I give a **** at this point? All I'm saying is that I'm NOT the only one who is tired of his crap.
Whatever, I'm out....and yes, I meant Polk Fest.I plan for the future. - F1Nut -
Yea, you'll get banned....don't be a dumbass. I'm not employed in any way shape or form in regards to what happens here, I'm only a user moderator. I'll let the other folks handle things from now on, problem solved.
I agree, I rode that train too...but eventually I stopped paying attention and letting it guide my participation here....you? Woe is me? Pot, kettle? WTF. It's nice to see you rail against what suits you and what doesn't suit you on this forum. Whatever, play that fiddle. Happy Listening!CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
Sorry Mark, you're off base on this one. Troy has nailed the pulse of the forum in general on this matter.
BTW, PF is Polkfest, not the Polk Forum.
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Candy posts crap every day and there are tons of non-members that read this forum. Now and in the future.
I am sometimes embarassed to frequent this forum.... who did you take to the prom...what color tie did you wear at your first wedding...what drink would you prefer fist thing in the morning...what color was your fist car...what song do you crank in the car...do you wear boxers or briefs...can I send you a cap for your tweeters to make them sound as good as the RDO replacements?
Come on already! It is insulting to Polk to have this guy post crap every day!
[Edit] Now, I read a couple of posts in between and it pisses me off further. Ban the f'r or lose a bunch of us. Or, just ban me and save me about an hour a day of reading this shot. -
Well am I sorry I dug this **** of a thread back up from the grave.
Sorry everyone. I would just let this one die........Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
I pulled the first page of all the most recent threads I've started. I have no regrets about starting any of them. Wait let me review them again
I bypass threads that don't interest me all day long. It's life. Just like when someone cuts you off in traffic or gives you the finger. I'm not cutting any of you off in traffic or giving you the finger
1. What do you search for on CL, ebay, audiogon everyday
2. What's the most light and airy rig you've ever heard
3. I have Deal or no deal's Claudia on my wall in a thong
4. Poll: Choose my date: Carol Burnett, Beetlejuice, 80 yr. sweetheart
5. What speakers or component have you had the longest and use regularly.
6. What was the last or best lie you told?
7. Karma Used Maroon 5 CD for the younger generations
8. Why don't tube cdp's have air vents?
9. About finished tweaking my SRS's. They're now light, delicate and airy
10. Video: Paul Potts blows "Britain's Got Talent" Away
11. Do you prefer a guitar, sax, piano, flute or violin solo
12. Houston CL: McIntosh amp and preamp collection
13. Donate: American Red Cross (flood victims)
14. Kudos to the Celtics: 2008 NBA Champs
15. Release the hounds (oo)
16. What turntable and cartridge are you using and cost?
17. What component would you definitely buy another one for 2nd configuration?
18. If you had to sell a pair of your Polks, which one and why?
19. Oh my look at grandma's 55 chevy $49,900
20. WTH Crude oil went up $10 today
21. Karma: New hits mix cd
22. How much do you pay for HO insurance?
23. What's the first thing you drink in the morning? ( 1 2 3)
24. Who would you most like to have lunch with?
25. Must see/do/eat things in Tucson? -
candyliquor35m wrote: »I pulled the first page of all the most recent threads I've started. I have no regrets about starting any of them. Wait let me review them again
I bypass threads that don't interest me all day long. It's life. Just like when someone cuts you off in traffic or gives you the finger. I'm not cutting any of you off in traffic or giving you the finger
1. What do you search for on CL, ebay, audiogon everyday
2. What's the most light and airy rig you've ever heard
3. I have Deal or no deal's Claudia on my wall in a thong
4. Poll: Choose my date: Carol Burnett, Beetlejuice, 80 yr. sweetheart
5. What speakers or component have you had the longest and use regularly.
6. What was the last or best lie you told?
7. Karma Used Maroon 5 CD for the younger generations
8. Why don't tube cdp's have air vents?
9. About finished tweaking my SRS's. They're now light, delicate and airy
10. Video: Paul Potts blows "Britain's Got Talent" Away
11. Do you prefer a guitar, sax, piano, flute or violin solo
12. Houston CL: McIntosh amp and preamp collection
13. Donate: American Red Cross (flood victims)
14. Kudos to the Celtics: 2008 NBA Champs
15. Release the hounds (oo)
16. What turntable and cartridge are you using and cost?
17. What component would you definitely buy another one for 2nd configuration?
18. If you had to sell a pair of your Polks, which one and why?
19. Oh my look at grandma's 55 chevy $49,900
20. WTH Crude oil went up $10 today
21. Karma: New hits mix cd
22. How much do you pay for HO insurance?
23. What's the first thing you drink in the morning? ( 1 2 3)
24. Who would you most like to have lunch with?
25. Must see/do/eat things in Tucson?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJN3PGqDRNgPlease. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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One more thing. You guys can stop playing your games because no is falling for them.
Last time you baited me into getting into arguments with you and that worked but this time I'm not falling for it. So you're trying a different game this time. The poor little helpless victims that can't keep yourself away from every thread I start or every post I make. In reality, you read my threads and posts to try every angle you can think of to antagonize me and/or to look for reasons to complain and whine about.
Have a good night and day.
I know I am.
I've learned my lesson. I don't sweat the small stuff anymore or things I can't control. I can't control anyone's action on this forum. I go out of my way not to antagonize or offend anyone on here. I respect polk and this forum too much to do otherwise because polk and their speakers provide hours of valuable entertainment that I don't know where I could get anywhere else. -
Who is baiting who?
get bent, and you suck.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
Thanks
Ben -
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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Screw it, George is right.
I'll take Mark's sage advice and go F myself.I plan for the future. - F1Nut -
Guy's I think it's time to close the "missle silo doors" and take the finger off the "launch" button for a moment. I found this place a few years ago and have stayed because of the information and help that is here.It just does not look good to see senior members of the forum in a open disagreement. Take it to pm's,please. However,it appears to me that there is much more usless and incorrect information that is being "spewed" as of late.I guess that I'm trying to say,if you don't have anything useful to contribute,then walk away and come back later,when you do,,, we have alot of newbees that are wanting to get there groove on,and it's very dishearting to see someone post bad/questionable advice.As Mark said,,it's counterproductive,,so, we need to move on and let those issues die. Hell,, I thought I was going to have something "profound" to say,I guess not.JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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I'm gonna hafta say here that Troy is right, this monkey is passive/aggressive and has an attention issue. But Mark is also right in that the endless pages of griping about this guy's inane posts is not necessary. I'm guilty of it too so I'm not throwing stones or anything.
But then again, Troy is right too. This guy has been doing this for months now and it started in response to threads where rskarvan was perpetrating his antics. Many people, both new and old, have expressed frustration with these threads because they bring no value to the forum and are distracting. It is understood that there are other places that "need attention" like the tech forums and such. 'Cause, well, that is what made this site what it is, the help that can be found there. But when guys like cl35m post inaccurate information there on top of the inane tripe in the general discussion forums, IMO, that is a bigger disservice than any disparaging remarks made in his inane threads.
Now I'm all for polls and open discussion. Those kinds of threads support group cohesion and build that "Family" mentality that runs rampant here. But when the threads start getting in to personal information like shopping habits, personals ads use, income levels, I'm wondering if cl35m should start changing his name to Alexa 'cause he behaves just like spyware. It's intrusive and what is even more astounding is that people ACTUALLY RESPOND WITH INFO ON PERSONAL HABITS! What's wrong with you people? Everybody screams privacy this, privacy that and then comes on a PUBLIC forum and posts the info they want to keep safe anyway! WTF dudes and dudettes, WTF.
What this boils down to is that while this guy's threads are harmless and benign for the most part, the are way out in left field, have nothing to do with the forums for the most part and smack of a hidden agenda. It's obvious that he has an intent to stir the pot and with the off-the-wall thread topics he chooses, the good behind his intentions is dubious at best.
We all have people here we can't stand but when the entire forum is discussing putting one tool on ignore, there is an issue that is not being addressed. I don't think banning is in order but the dude needs to change behavior 'cause it was old a long time ago. Everyone also needs to cool their jets, like Mark said, grown men...and women. Lets act our ages not our shoe sizes.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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Look at the tags. Everyone knows his M.O.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
Thanks
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I do not post those harassing tags. It's another game someone is playing to antagonize and belittle me.
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No, you are not posting those tags. The tags you have posted in some of your threads are useless and stupid, as the threads themselves. These, they are actually very accurate and useful._________________________________________________
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candyliquor35m wrote: »I do not post those harassing tags. It's another game someone is playing to antagonize and belittle me.
you not being the one posting the tags is kinda the point...LOL
you hosestly believe you dont love this attention? cmon man, seriously?
however, some shame on the rest of us for caring so much........the tags are funny as **** thoughLiving Room 2 Channel -
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Screw it, George is right.
I'll take Mark's sage advice and go F myself.
Uhm ..... pix please ...Sal Palooza