Why I Don't Watch The News...

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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited November 2007
    rskarvan wrote: »
    I learned (on this forum) that the same group of people who own the media also own the banks and also own a little sliver of democracy in the Middle East. And, it is impossible to get elected (or, maintain your elected position) without the backing of the banks and the media. And, lastly, all news is subjective to both interpretation and presentation.


    You left out major brokerage firms. :)
  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited November 2007
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    All the news shows that showed (a few still kinda do) "real" news didn't get good ratings. It's still a business, and the people have spoken - they don't care about real news. Sad.


    The "news" is now an unfortunate byproduct of the advertising that funds the stations on which it is broadcast.

    I don't watch it at all. Don't read the paper either. When searching for news of global import, I find that the views and perspectives from sources outside this country ring truer in my eyes and ears than those that originate here.
    -Ignorance is strength -
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,950
    edited November 2007
    The "news" is now an unfortunate byproduct of the advertising that funds the stations on which it is broadcast.

    I don't watch it at all. Don't read the paper either. When searching for news of global import, I find that the views and perspectives from sources outside this country ring truer in my eyes and ears than those that originate here.

    Sources outside the country?? Yeah those Turks really know whats going on in america.What sources are we talking about? The Sudan Sun Times? Maybe the Pakistani Journal ? Or is it the Kremlin Chronicle?? Jeeeez!!
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited November 2007
    Having worked in the newspaper industry for three years, I can tell ya one mantra that rang true thru the hallowed halls of the printed media. "If it bleeds, it leads."
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,950
    edited November 2007
    I like watching the news....for a laugh.Seems for a long time it's been bad news is the only news.Also they are loosing ground to internet sources for news so now to boost rateings,it's become the Tv version of the Enquirer.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2007
    The "news" is now an unfortunate byproduct of the advertising that funds the stations on which it is broadcast.

    I don't watch it at all. Don't read the paper either. When searching for news of global import, I find that the views and perspectives from sources outside this country ring truer in my eyes and ears than those that originate here.

    Every "country" has the same problem, I don't know how you can imagine that makes a difference.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited November 2007
    I think the weather girl should wear a bikini when she does her stick.
    RT1

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    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited November 2007
    tonyb wrote: »
    Sources outside the country?? Yeah those Turks really know whats going on in america.What sources are we talking about? The Sudan Sun Times? Maybe the Pakistani Journal ? Or is it the Kremlin Chronicle?? Jeeeez!!

    No. Mostly from nations that have a higher standard of living and education than that of the US. Here are many to pick from.


    Human Development Index (HDI)

    1. Iceland 0.968
    2. Norway 0.968
    3. Australia 0.962
    4. Canada 0.961
    5. Ireland 0.959
    6. Sweden 0.956
    7. Switzerland 0.955
    8. Japan 0.953
    9. Netherlands 0.953
    10. France 0.952
    11. Finland 0.952
    12. United States 0.951

    P.S.
    Sometimes a collectives' self image may not be so accurate. We need to look something painted by another, rather than a mirror of our own making. It's balancing to have a perspective outside of what is fed to you by interested parties. I'm not dogging this country, but stating that things here aren't necessarily the 'best', as many are want to say. The many, I might add, often times don't even have a passport to travel to other countries to make a comparison.
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited November 2007
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Every "country" has the same problem, I don't know how you can imagine that makes a difference.

    If your mother tells your "you're handsome", you might want a second opinion.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,950
    edited November 2007
    No. Mostly from nations that have a higher standard of living and education than that of the US. Here are many to pick from.


    Human Development Index (HDI)

    1. Iceland 0.968
    2. Norway 0.968
    3. Australia 0.962
    4. Canada 0.961
    5. Ireland 0.959
    6. Sweden 0.956
    7. Switzerland 0.955
    8. Japan 0.953
    9. Netherlands 0.953
    10. France 0.952
    11. Finland 0.952
    12. United States 0.951

    P.S.
    Sometimes a collectives' self image may not be so accurate. We need to look something painted by another, rather than a mirror of our own making. It's balancing to have a perspective outside of what is fed to you by interested parties. I'm not dogging this country, but stating that things here aren't necessarily the 'best', as many are want to say. The many, I might add, often times don't even have a passport to travel to other countries to make a comparison.

    I had a feeling you were going take info from the UN. Biased?? The UN is the biggest,worthless organization on the planet.Iceland,Yeah,rush of people lookin' to move there.All the great minds in the world want to go there too.France?? Yeah..Ok.
    Though I will agree on the outside looking in thing,but I gotta tell ya,if I was living anywhere else in the world and looking at America,I'd want to move here.Sure wouldn't mind spending a few years on the Italian coast though.Traveling to other countries and living there is two different animals.Do other nations to certain things better than us? Damn straight.But when you look at the whole picture,we are the best on the planet.And have done so in a tad over 200 years while other nations have been around for a thousand and can't hold a candle to us.
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited November 2007
    Based on this list, I think the USA should invade Canada so that we move up from 12 to 4. This way, we will get to label Shania Twain as a domestic product.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,950
    edited November 2007
    rskarvan wrote: »
    Based on this list, I think the USA should invade Canada so that we move up from 12 to 4. This way, we will get to label Shania Twain as a domestic product.

    Like to domesticate her for sure.:)
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited November 2007
    ..kick 'em when they're up. Kick 'em when they're down.:D

    "She can tell you about the car crash with a gleam in her eye"
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited November 2007
    Let's see, doesn't the US have the population of all the countries above it combined? Might that have something to do with it? Also, remember, the UN's ideal country is one that is rich AND communist/socialist. The US only fits one of those at present while you can make the argument that those above are both except Japan (which does have one of the highest rate of depression and suicides in the world).

    I think you need to get out more if you think your viewpoint is worldly. Anyway, back to start my day in a third world country....
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited November 2007
    jdhdiggs wrote: »
    Anyway, back to start my day in a third world country....

    I just shot coffee out of my nose!!! LOL!!!
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited November 2007
    Actually Joe, I was being serious. It's 10AM here and I took a dump on Iran to get here. ;)
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited November 2007
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Nearly everything is carcinogenic

    Yep, if one is worried about carcinogenic meals, one should never eat anything made in a grill. Oh well, those burned, crispy sausages are the best... :)
  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited November 2007
    While I agree that the UN is more like Barnum and Baily's, the HDI was not issued, studied, or formed by the UN. It was however adopted by the UN after it's inclusion of factors other than GDP. It is an indicator derived with standard methodology of how nations compare in three key areas: Purchasing Power (GDP) in US dollars, Education as measured by literacy, and Life Expectancy.

    At least one of those should be at least a minor concern to most.

    I have an issue with the life expectancy thing. I won't kill myself working 70% hours a week so that I can get ahead. . . and pay 35% in taxes that ultimately funds the companies of the friends of the head nit-wit W.

    The people should not be afraid of it's gov, the gov should be afraid of it's people.
    Viva La Revolucion!
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited November 2007
    "and in a poll today"

    WTF??????? What poll????? I didnt vote in a poll!!!!! I want to see the idiots who voted in that poll!!!!
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited November 2007
    jdhdiggs wrote: »
    I think you need to get out more if you think your viewpoint is worldly. Anyway, back to start my day in a third world country....

    I don't know how much more 'worldly', world statistics could be.
    Since York PA, has double to triple the average crime stats, you apparently will start your day in a third world country. Have fun with the natives. Enjoy.
    -Ignorance is strength -
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,950
    edited November 2007
    While I agree that the UN is more like Barnum and Baily's, the HDI was not issued, studied, or formed by the UN. It was however adopted by the UN after it's inclusion of factors other than GDP. It is an indicator derived with standard methodology of how nations compare in three key areas: Purchasing Power (GDP) in US dollars, Education as measured by literacy, and Life Expectancy.

    At least one of those should be at least a minor concern to most.

    I have an issue with the life expectancy thing. I won't kill myself working 70% hours a week so that I can get ahead. . . and pay 35% in taxes that ultimately funds the companies of the friends of the head nit-wit W.

    The people should not be afraid of it's gov, the gov should be afraid of it's people.
    Viva La Revolucion!


    What companies are we talkin' here??

    If you want to talk about funding friends companies,look no further than the Clintons.
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited November 2007
    Business as usual, then.
    -Ignorance is strength -
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited November 2007
    jdhdiggs wrote: »
    Actually Joe, I was being serious. It's 10AM here and I took a dump on Iran to get here. ;)

    James where the hell are you?
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited November 2007
    Apperantly I'm in York PA according to the braniac who thinks he knows everything but can't seem to read. I'll give you a hint though: The city I'm in has been somewhat recently renamed and has a population that would put NYC to shame.

    SK: Again, it's POPULATION!!! You think ANY of those countries would be above us with 300MM people and 10-20MM "undocumented workers" by those measures? Of course not... Japan's the closest at a little more than 1/3 the population.

    Anyway, time for lunch!
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited November 2007
    jdhdiggs wrote: »
    I'll give you a hint though: The city I'm in has been somewhat recently renamed and has a population that would put NYC to shame.

    Kalivornia?:D
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited November 2007
    Naw, I'm in Mumbai, India (formerly Bombay), travelling all over the country as well. I'm designing a national infrastructure and logistics network for a company here. I'll be stuck here until Dec 14. and then I'll be racking up the FF miles going back and forth for the next year. Unfortunately George Soros looks to be buying a controlling share in the company. Talk about stomach turning...
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited November 2007
    I'll move to France just as soon as they put the fires out. :rolleyes:

    BDT
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited November 2007
    Hey Troy, I think that sun is getting to you! ;)
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited December 2007
    Did you say the Pledge of Allegiance too many times?

    I don't know what manifesto you've read that leads you to believe that any of these governments are any more Communist/Socialist than the US, or that India and NYC could be compared in any material way, under any circumstances. So there's no confusion:

    1. Iceland 0.968 Parliamentary, Constitution, Democratic President
    2. Norway 0.968 Parliamentary, Constitution, Democratic Monarchy
    3. Australia 0.962 Parliamentary, Constitution, Democratic Monarchy UK
    4. Canada 0.961 Parliamentary, Constitution, Democratic Monarchy UK
    5. Ireland 0.959 Parliamentary, Constitution, Democratic President
    6. Sweden 0.956 Parliamentary, Constitution, Democratic Monarchy
    7. Switzerland 0.955 Democracy
    8. Japan 0.953 Parliamentary, Constitution, Democratic Monarchy
    9. Netherlands 0.953 Parliamentary, Constitution, Democratic Monarchy
    10. France 0.952 Parliamentary, Constitution, Democratic President
    11. Finland 0.952 Parliamentary, Constitution, Democratic President
    12. United States Democracy


    If I'm to understand this, any Government, except the US, is Communist/Socialist. Is it because most have heath care, and have programs to take care of their children and elders? That is called civilization. It's not about working the middle class to an early death to pay for the big business of politics or bailing out the corporations that misappropriated their pensions. I love America, but I'm embarrassed and vocal about it. To do less is to allow further mortgaging of our futures, and that is not patriotic.

    I'm sure you have some ****-a-maymie comments about some secret plots, and inside info about how a certain government listed above is really a communist/socialist government in disguise because they do "x". I'm sure it has nothing to do with constitutional rights, liberties, or standard of living. Quite a few of them are fiercely democratic, and their citizens have more power than their government. The whole point was to look at what is working elsewhere, because things here are quite a mess. It's something we should all take personally. Hopefully your thinking will evolve. So I don't get F1'd in the ****, I'll try the ignore option, a first. Good luck.
    -Ignorance is strength -
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited December 2007
    *sigh*

    First of all....I've learned a couple of things.

    One. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Government benevolance comes with a HEFTY price tag. You know, this is something that far too many people don't realize. While a government may have a democratic construct (hell, a lot of commie regimes had 'Democratic' something or other in the title) if the government is the primary provider of a service or product....that's 'socialism'. Limiting of free choice is socialization. I'm not saying 'good' or 'bad' but it is what it is.

    Two. Consider this, if people were allowed to KEEP the money that they made, perhaps there wouldn't be quite the need for gov't benevolance? Ever thought of that? I'll bet if you check...some of those countries that if you tallied the COMPLETE (not just income but usage/property etc) tax burden, you'd find that some of them are pretty damn high...like 60% and up, high. Like me, if I took the money that I've been paying into just Social Security (not even mentioning all the other taxes, just SS) and invested THAT on my own...I'd be WEALTHY. My return would sure as hell be a lot more than what I'm going to get, if anything. If we reduced the tax burden even FURTHER, perhaps more people could make thier OWN choices and afford the health care that they so desired.

    Third. The underlying theme behind government benevolance is that people are too stupid to take care of themselves. I find that insulting. I think that people are far more resourceful than governments give them credit for. However, dependancy is what governments NEED to grow.

    Four. I don't see what makes the middle class working to support a government any more noble than working for a private enterprise. Working for the private sector has a lot more lucrative options than working for the gov't (I can write you a book on this).

    Five. Take a look at that list. How many of them depend, primarily, on the US as the primary guarantor (sp) of the safety, security and freedoms that they enjoy? I don't mean this in a jingoistic manner but most of those on the list, were it not for US intervention and continuing support...would NOT be enjoying the standard of living that they have.

    BDT
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