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Hi all. Another new member to the polk club here. I just picked up an Onkyo Tx-SR604 receiver and a pair of Rti6's from Crutchfield this last week. After much debate, I am going after work today to switch them out for Rti10's and the csi3 center. Can't wait!!!
Wanted to see if anyone had any good feedback/advice for setting this up properly, or if/when I'd need an amp.
Thanks, and glad to be here!
Wanted to see if anyone had any good feedback/advice for setting this up properly, or if/when I'd need an amp.
Thanks, and glad to be here!
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jflail2 wrote:Hi all. Another new member to the polk club here. I just picked up an Onkyo Tx-SR604 receiver and a pair of Rti6's from Crutchfield this last week. After much debate, I am going after work today to switch them out for Rti10's and the csi3 center. Can't wait!!!
Wanted to see if anyone had any good feedback/advice for setting this up properly, or if/when I'd need an amp.
Thanks, and glad to be here!
Welcome jflail2,
That reciever will be able to handle the RTI10s, but you are not giving those speakers even close to their full potential. The other big prob with the 604 is that it doesn't have pre-outs. I'd say at least upgrade to the 700 series, or there are some good h/k options to choose from. So then, if you want to get everything out of those speaks, you can buy an seperate amp.
good luck
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Fronts: Monitor 50s
Center: CSI3
surrounds: R15s
Sub:Velodyne DPS10
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Agree, you'll need an amp to bring them alive. They are not as power hungry as the LSI series, but they will benefit greatly as most speakers will from an amp. I had my 10s initially driven by my Denon 4306 and then I got an Outlaw. Type of amp depends on your usage. The outlaw made my naturally bright 10's brighter as compared to the Denon. Since I'm almost 100% HT and no music, it didn't really matter.
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tommyboy:
Thanks for the quick response. Unfortunately I am in an apt., and am surrounded by neighbors, so I can't give those speakers the push they deserve
I chose the 604 b/c of the hdmi thrus, but it sounds like I made a bad choice? I was trying to keep everything within reason, as this is my 1st venture into decent audio components. I would be ok with moving that receiver to my pc room in a few years and upgrading to a better receiver, but if you think that would be a worthwhile upgrade now, I might fork over the extra $$....On the other hand I don't see me buying an amp and really pushing those speakers until well after we buy a house...
So I assume the preamp output on this model is also what I am looking for??:
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jflail2 wrote:tommyboy:
Thanks for the quick response. Unfortunately I am in an apt., and am surrounded by neighbors, so I can't give those speakers the push they deserve
hello again,
Do not think of getting a seperate amp or a better reciever so you can go louder. Your 604 can do that just fine. Even at lower volumes, your sound quality will be far superior than the 604. I also live in an apartment, and at lower volumes, the clarity difference between the amp and my reciever is undeniable. It also feels like I can just hear more in general out of my speaks at lower volumes.
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Fronts: Monitor 50s
Center: CSI3
surrounds: R15s
Sub:Velodyne DPS10
Dvd/Cd: Samsung HD upconverter (for now)
TV: 50" Sammy Plasma
game hardware: 360 and gcn.
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sigh......
I knew I would end up talking to a bunch of enablers I'll be visiting the crutchfield outlet after work today, so if they will take my recently opened receiver back, it looks like i might be upgrading to the 804.....2007 Club Polk Football Pool Champ
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Welcome! Think of it this way, by getting a better receiver now, you won't have to upgrade that particular piece later on.
In other words, we are trying to help you do it right the first time. Something a great many people don't do and end up spending twice as much by having to buy the same piece of equipment a 2nd time to get what they really need.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
Very true Cfrizz.......This is definitely going well beyond my "1k max", but like you said it will be worth it in the end.
So is the 804 I linked a couple of posts previously going to be a better fit? Will this meet all of my needs for years to come?
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Do you have now the Rti10? Well, the Rti8 can be drive more easy with any avr, if you can I think that is a good idea..
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jflail2 wrote:So is the 804 I linked a couple of posts previously going to be a better fit? Will this meet all of my needs for years to come?
Thanks for your immediate help. It makes a somewhat expensive purchase a little less nervewracking...
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Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
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Ron:
Thanks for the helpful input! I am actually probably going to switch that receiver out for this one:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Ru3yyuWUojK/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=10420&I=033AV2307C
as it has everything I'm looking for, and sounded to do a bit better job than the onkyo....and yes, I would prefer the video switching on the AVR. I have an old Sony XBR 910 34" CRT, and while it still looks great, there aren't a ton of inputs...
I figure I can add an amp to the Denon a few months from now and be good to go.
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That will work...I think you'll like the Denon/Polk combo better for SQ too. Good luck.
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Yes! When you buy a receiver, always get one with preamp outputs. This will give you the option of getting more power with separate amplification which is always a good thing for speakers!:D
Also if you know you will be happy with the sound of it with your speakers & also satisfied with all of the bells & whistles that it currently has & won't want any future (in the pipeline) bells & whistles then yes, you will keep your receiver for years!jflail2 wrote:Very true Cfrizz.......This is definitely going well beyond my "1k max", but like you said it will be worth it in the end.
So is the 804 I linked a couple of posts previously going to be a better fit? Will this meet all of my needs for years to come?
Thanks for your immediate help. It makes a somewhat expensive purchase a little less nervewracking...Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
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jflail2 wrote:Ron:
Thanks for the helpful input! I am actually probably going to switch that receiver out for this one:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Ru3yyuWUojK/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=10420&I=033AV2307C
Just to let you know, there are other places than crutchfield to find some good recievers:) . Don't make a quick decision, look aroud for a good reciever at a good price.
Looks like its turning into a great system, congrats.
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Fronts: Monitor 50s
Center: CSI3
surrounds: R15s
Sub:Velodyne DPS10
Dvd/Cd: Samsung HD upconverter (for now)
TV: 50" Sammy Plasma
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tommyboy:
Well, I am in Charlottesville, VA, so the Crutchfield outlet is a 5 minute drive from me. I appreciate being able to bring it back to the store if need be, and their tech support has always been excellent (repaired a minor problem with my Sony tv after a year and a half in, no questions asked.) I am somewhat of a convenience/local buyer, so I will pay a bit more to have that easy/immediate access. That and they are having their annual open box/outlet sale, so I am hoping that that Denon model has been opened, looked at, and then returned The speakers will definitely be open box, but must still be aesthetically pleasing, so no scratches/gouges or I'll have to break down and buy new.
I really appreciate everyone's help. After much gnashing of fangs, it will be the Denon receiver linked above, with the rti10s and the csi3 to start out. Any other suggestions/input is still greatly appreciated.
Pics coming, but they might have to wait until tomorrow (since I can't even leave work till 6pm tonight.) I have to show off the fruits of our labor!
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1 more thing. I noticed stacking anything on top of the AVR is a heat-filled NO NO. I would like to stack my cable box on top of this receiver. Are there any options out there that add risers to the feet of the cable box (and possibly reduce vibration at the same time) that would allow me to do so without worrying about damaging the AVR?2007 Club Polk Football Pool Champ
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Good job Jflail2, Find another place for the cable box bud, let that Denon breathe. If you have the space, and can get a good price on it, opt for the CSi5 center. Again just saving you future upgrades, that CSi5 is a beast and you will probably like it a lil better. Again thats only if you have space and can get it at a good price. Let us know when you get everything in place and setup. Welcome home guy.
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They actually had the csi5 open box (without a scratch on it), but it was sooo big that there's no way in hell the old lady's gonna go for it. She's very much worried about aesthetics, whereas I am very much worried about finally getting some kick ****$ sound rolling
Same thing goes for the rears, but I have a plan for implementing them when she is out of town a couple of months from now............. I would love to hear some rear recommendations now though. Same goes for the sub I guess. I would prefer rears that are fairly small (as in there's no way I could justify the RTi6's as rears), and the sub is last on the list since I'm in an apt. and not a house.
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I second the CSi5. I had a CSi3 for @ 4 months and while a decent center it just never gave the full sound I was looking for and the CSi5 seems to have the fuller sound I was desiring.
It is a huge center. That is the reason I went with the CSi3 in the first place.I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D -
Give that csi3 200w and it's a new speaker
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All I can say is that I wish I had know about "Preouts" when I bought my first Onkyo 502. It would have saved me a lot of money having to shell out for another avr with preouts later down the road. Glad you didn't have to make that same mistake.
Can't wait to hear your impressions of the Denon/Rti10 combo. And if you think it sounds good now- you just wait until you add that external amp down the road.... -
Well, here they are in all their glory.
I hear ya Ern Dog. BIG thx to tommyboy for steering me in the right direction. Thx to everyone for the excellent input actually.
Now what do you guys think about rears and a sub. I would want as small as possible for rears, and the sub is not an immediate need since my neighbors are probably not going to be loving these rti10s as it is...
I think I am going to stick with the csi3 for the time being. I pondered the 5, but after seeing it again in the store, its just too big. I might go bigger once I upgrade on screen size, but the next priority is a house (which is why I'm trying to stock up on new, long lasting toys before I'm permanently broke....)
Or if willow is indeed correct then I'll add the external amp, which will beef up that csi3 as well.2007 Club Polk Football Pool Champ
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bah, for some reason the denon won't fire up at all. It's as if its getting no juice at all. I guess its either a bad power cord or a bad unit, unless I'm missing something basic.
I guess that's the nice part about buying locally; I'll just take it back tomorrow after work.2007 Club Polk Football Pool Champ
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jflail2 wrote:BIG thx to tommyboy for steering me in the right direction. Thx to everyone for the excellent input actually.
No problem jflail, I'm glad to help.
I looked at your pic and it looks great except I have a few suggestions...
first off, you going to want to move your speaks out a few feet. I can see there is a wall or something on the left. Maybe (if you can:eek: ) move the tv to the right or somewhere else so you can get good seperation from your speaks.
Second, what would really help you with the cable box situation is an audio rack. I'm really not sure where the best place to buy them is(maybe someone else can help you with that), but it would really clean things up under your tv.
You said you wanted to get a bigger size tv. You sure about that;) . Thats one of the best tvs out there... but if you really want to get rid of it, I'll take it:D .
For rears and a sub... You said rti6s are too big... check out the rti4s, or even better the fxi3s. If those are still too big....well good luck;) . The sub, everyone here recommends SVS, I have heard them once, but I could not give them an honest listen since the SVS was playing with big **** SDA speakers(thanks Carl).
Anymore questions, don't hesitate to ask.
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Fronts: Monitor 50s
Center: CSI3
surrounds: R15s
Sub:Velodyne DPS10
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Sounds good. That is actually a giant cat tree on the left side, so that can be moved and the speakers widened in relation to the screen. Thanks for the good advice!
I'm all ears for audio rack suggestions. I dread removing that glass shelf as it connects to that stand under the television......And yes, I LOVE this tv. Picture quality is just phenomenal. That being said, this is destined to be our bedroom tv, and I'd like to replace it with a 46"+ 1080p lcd. But like I said before, that's well after we get a house squared away.......
I'll look into those rears at some point today.
As an aside, I couldn't be more pleased with the price on those RTi10's. I got them open box b/c the left one has a scuffed/dented corner and the other...well I guess it has some MINOR scratches/blemishes. They still sell for $480 each on Crutchfield's site, but I wound up paying $375 for the pair2007 Club Polk Football Pool Champ
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jflail2 wrote:
They actually had the csi5 open box (without a scratch on it), but it was sooo big that there's no way in hell the old lady's gonna go for it.
Just a thought
The CSi5 is big, but its not bigger than your TV or future one if you upgrade to a larger screen. One thing you could try is what I did. I bought a 27 TV wall mount and installed it so the lip of the stand is an inch or so above the TV. I then placed my CSi5 on top of the stand and used the kick stand on the CSi5 to point the face of the Center to my viewing height. It worked out well. Clean install and it appears that the Center is floating on top of the TV. If memory serves, the mounted stand will come out 23 from the wall. And can be adjusted to come out a little further but not much.
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Swear to God Ern. I might even post a copy of the receipt when I get home tonight. I wasn't sure I had heard the clerk properly when he checked me out, so I had to scour my itemized receipt in the parking lot, and sure enough, that was it.
Basically, the open box rti10's were 250$ each b/c they apparently have a TON in their warehouse right now. Since they're having their annual outlet sale, they marked their open box floor speakers down to "buy 1 get the second one 1/2 off." 250+125= a VERY happy new listener...
They had an open box of that Denon receiver at $611, but it had a couple of cosmetic blemishes on the face of the receiver........I figure for as long as I'm going to keep it, it may as well look brand spanking new.
Now if I can just kill this work day and hurry home, I can finally enjoy the fruits of my labor!2007 Club Polk Football Pool Champ
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Just wanted to update everyone on the new additions. All I can say is WOW. Unfrickinbelievable. They sounded good from the get go, but by last night they sounded absolutely incredible. I started with some Meddle from Floyd, and then went to some Tool, the Gladiator Soundtrack, Zorba the Greek and Holst's The Planets. EVERYTHING sounded good. They sound to be a bit more "rock music focused" speakers, if there is such a thing, but the classical sounded phenomenal to me as well.
Sorry to ramble, but its been a great weekend
Thanks again for all the great advice! Now I'm starting to wonder what a nice amp would run me......:eek:2007 Club Polk Football Pool Champ
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jflail2 wrote:Thanks again for all the great advice! Now I'm starting to wonder what a nice amp would run me......:eek:
Combo rig:
Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
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PB13Ultra RO
BW Silvers
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AMp up the 10s when you can bud, no rush really. It seems like youre very happy. If you feel your denon is enough for the rest of your speaks you can just amp up the 10s with mono amps (1 per speak) or the entire system with a multichannel amp. outlaw, adcom, bryston, ATi,parasound are some that are good quality.
As for rears, since youre looking for small check out the fxi3s, and if you want to get into a 7.1 setup add a pair of rti4s. As for sub, as someone mentioned, SVS is kickass around here, maybe PB12 depending on room size, those guys at SVS will help you out, they wont over sell you for a buck.
As for the pic, awesome gear, screen is nice also. Crutchfield carries amp racks and stands, see if you can deal on one.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
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