Buying A 46' Lcd Or A 50' Plasma Input Please!!!!!!!11

fbwinners
fbwinners Posts: 26
edited January 2007 in Electronics
I'm in the market to purchases a 46' LCD or 50' Plasma and my budget is between 3k - 4k, I have researched many hours and came up with the following tv's below. I went to Circuit City last night and really wasn't impressed with the PQ on these sets and they seemed to be pixaling real bad and I was wonderig if it was the way they were set up? They were using on most Directv HD and on a few Blue Ray DVD whiched looked awesome. Please direct me to the correct tv in you alls opinion!!!!!!!!!!



SAMSUNG LNS4695D (LCD)


SONY 46XBR2 (LCD)


PIONEER PDP-5070HD (PLASMA)



Thanks, FB
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited November 2006
    Sonys are the **** and so are Panasonics, pick one
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,052
    edited November 2006
    IMHO, Panasonic is the best at its price point.
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  • mutelight
    mutelight Posts: 1,054
    edited November 2006
    Since you are chosing a plasma 50"+ it will be able to display true 720p resolution. Obviously the two LCDs you have narrowed it down to have a native resolution of 1080p which is always nice. They are all great sets, the plasma has phenomenal black levels that easily rival those of a direct view CRT and the LCDs have the resolution. What type of content are you going to be feeding the display? Broadcast HD? HD-DVD/Blu-ray?
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  • bigrodge
    bigrodge Posts: 16
    edited November 2006
    Pioneer or a Panasonic..you cannot go wrong, but remember...they shrink a few days after you get used to 'em..get the biggest mother you can afford.
  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited November 2006
    I've got the Samsung LNS4695D on the way (should be here Wednesday), so I'll let you know what I think when it shows up.

    BTW- I went with the samsung since all the reviews I read said the current generation of samsungs were on par with the SONY xbr2's, but cost a lot less. Also, those displays are using the same panels as sony, out of the exact same factory.
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  • fbwinners
    fbwinners Posts: 26
    edited November 2006
    UNC, did you get your sammy as of now? If so how pleased are you with it and I think I'm going with the same one also. I will probably order tomorrow or Monday morning.


    Thanks, FB
    TV - TOSHIBA 47LZ196
    FRONTS - RTI10'S
    CENTER - CSI5
    SUB - PSW 404
    SURROUND - RC8OI
    AV RECEIVER - ONKYO TXSR 804B
    HDDVD - TOSHIBA HDA2
    SACD/CD/DVD CHANGER - YAMAHA DVC6770
  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited November 2006
    Rock and roll, dude. I love it. Will do a full review shortly, but go for it. Got it shipped in five days from amazon for $2400.
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
    Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
    Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
    Backburner:Krell KAV-300i
  • Ferres
    Ferres Posts: 310
    edited November 2006
    One drawback with plasma is power consumption. The biggger it is the bigger hog it is. :(

    Also heat.
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  • sickicw
    sickicw Posts: 456
    edited December 2006
    I have the SONY 46XBR2, and love it. Best thing about it is you can customize the settings per input and you can turn on a high color band setting which makes the colors really pop. you will probably never see this at circuit city because they only use the predefined settings, and it is usually set to "vivid" which looks like crap. Also i was looking into the sammy, but didnt get it because it cannot do 1 to 1 pixel mapping with hdmi input. It also usues overscan which means it will crop a half inch or so of the picture on the screen so that you wont be viewing the entire video picture.

    EDIT: take a look at these TVs at http://www.avsforum.com/
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  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited December 2006
    Ferres wrote:
    One drawback with plasma is power consumption. The biggger it is the bigger hog it is. :(

    Also heat.

    This made me smile. Here we are with huge amps and power sucking stereo equipment talking about conserving power.

    BTW... just FYI the Pioneer PDP-5060HD uses about 355Watts of power in operating mode. Taken from the article:

    http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatvreviews/panasonic-th50px60u-review.html
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  • Ferres
    Ferres Posts: 310
    edited December 2006
    Unless you're using Class A or Tube amps, power consumption of AB class amplifiers is not so big at moderate volumes. Plasma TV's on the other hand is like a class A amp.

    One test I read elsewhere had a 50" Plasmas being used in high action videogames eating 700+ watts. Rear projection TV's have the least power usage for large size screens.

    If you're a moderate user it wouldn't hurt too much, I guess. :)

    But it's still a great TV if the powerbill is not an issue. :D
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    Conditioner: Isotek :D
  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited December 2006
    unc2701 wrote:
    Rock and roll, dude. I love it. Will do a full review shortly, but go for it. Got it shipped in five days from amazon for $2400.
    I've noticed that Amazon's prices are great. I assume shipping the TV went ok? did they do anything special to the package or ship as it was packed from Samsung? I would be interested in buying from them, if you think shipping is safe...
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited December 2006
    It went out via Eagle USA freight. I imagine 40" is about the limit for what you can do without stepping up to freight. My only complaint was that they had it at their warehouse in raleigh for two days & still hadn't called to schedule a drop off, so I called them up & just picked it up myself.

    Amazon is an authorized retailer for just about everything they sell & I got that TV for $800 less than what Circuit City was selling it for last week, so I give them an A+ all around.

    Oh- it was just in the samsung box. If someone dropped it, you'd probably be screwed.
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  • kmartin971
    kmartin971 Posts: 236
    edited December 2006
    Plasma for movies!
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  • fbwinners
    fbwinners Posts: 26
    edited December 2006
    Well I wound up purchasing a Toshiba 47LZ196 for 3k tax and shipping included. I contacted a local audio company in my area and asked him what is the bet LCD's he has calibrated and or seen in action. He quoted the new Sharp 46'/52', Sony XBR's, and the Toshiba. I also asked him which one played SD the best and he said the Toshiba by far had a better pq for sd. He also told me to come to a job site where he was installing one for a customer so I could see one in action and I went and couldnt' believe the PQ on this set in SD and HD. Well to say the least I got it this Monday afternoon and watched the Bears/Rams game and couldn't get over the picture on this set and I haven't even got it calibrated. He is coming to my home on December 28 to install my surrond speakers in my ceiling and a set of outdoor speakers on my patio. I will update you all after the calibration.


    FB
    TV - TOSHIBA 47LZ196
    FRONTS - RTI10'S
    CENTER - CSI5
    SUB - PSW 404
    SURROUND - RC8OI
    AV RECEIVER - ONKYO TXSR 804B
    HDDVD - TOSHIBA HDA2
    SACD/CD/DVD CHANGER - YAMAHA DVC6770
  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited December 2006
    Congrats on your purchase.
    Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
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    Panasonic -50PX600U 50" Plasma
    Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
    Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
    Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
    PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
    PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
    PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
    SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
    Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
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  • fbwinners
    fbwinners Posts: 26
    edited December 2006
    I finally had my audio guy come on this week and finish off my setup and I couldn't be more pleased with it. I purchased the Eagles farewell tour from New Zeland and it's recorded in DTS Surround and it's a much purchase for any Eagles fan. The sound mix on this DVD is awesome and I couldn't believe the sound quality on this.


    FB



    MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!!!!!!!
    TV - TOSHIBA 47LZ196
    FRONTS - RTI10'S
    CENTER - CSI5
    SUB - PSW 404
    SURROUND - RC8OI
    AV RECEIVER - ONKYO TXSR 804B
    HDDVD - TOSHIBA HDA2
    SACD/CD/DVD CHANGER - YAMAHA DVC6770
  • fbwinners
    fbwinners Posts: 26
    edited January 2007
    Well I wake up on on New Yeays day ready for the Bowl games and what do I get a complete black screen on the Toshiba 47lz196 so I go throught he manual and do all the trouble shooting they say to do and still a complete black screen!!!!!!!!! When you first turn it on you get a picture for a mili-second and then a black screen only audio no picture at all. So all call me audio guy on New Years morning and he calls me back and says he will come out and look at and he showed up about 1 1/2 hr. later and ran numerous test and also reset the factor settings and so forth still a black picture. So I have to contact Toshiba customer service in the morning to see if I will receive a new TV or send a service tech to fix the current one. I personally want a new set. I will keep you all updated on this matter.


    FB
    TV - TOSHIBA 47LZ196
    FRONTS - RTI10'S
    CENTER - CSI5
    SUB - PSW 404
    SURROUND - RC8OI
    AV RECEIVER - ONKYO TXSR 804B
    HDDVD - TOSHIBA HDA2
    SACD/CD/DVD CHANGER - YAMAHA DVC6770
  • fbwinners
    fbwinners Posts: 26
    edited January 2007
    Well my Audio/Video guy that I purchased the TV from contacted me this morning and his Toshiba dealer is going to send out a new set this morning and I should have a new set by Thursday or Friday of this week just in time for the the NCAA Championshipa game and the first week of playoff action.


    FB
    TV - TOSHIBA 47LZ196
    FRONTS - RTI10'S
    CENTER - CSI5
    SUB - PSW 404
    SURROUND - RC8OI
    AV RECEIVER - ONKYO TXSR 804B
    HDDVD - TOSHIBA HDA2
    SACD/CD/DVD CHANGER - YAMAHA DVC6770
  • GATOR3000
    GATOR3000 Posts: 355
    edited January 2007
    That sucks man. I got Samsung HP-S5053 - 50" before Christmas and it is awesome. I'm very happy with it.

    Hope you get yours soon.

    Happy New Year 2007!!!!!

    Gator :):)
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