New guy here, just a couple q's

slush

I know some of these questions have been covered, I have done some searching but I would like a freash opinion.

We recently had a Sound Advice go out of buisiness which afforded me the opportunity to pick up a pair of LSi25's for $1000. I couldn't pass that deal up. Although, purchasing these speakers has left me needing to buy an amp. I currently have a Yamaha RX-V757 and it powers the speakers and doesn't really fuss about it, but I do wonder what I am leaving on the table as sq goes.

Other than the Lsi25's I am using a PSW650 and bits of my old 6700HTIB to fill out my 7.1 HT.

Question 1. Should I sell the Yamaha and buy a pre amp and something like an outlaw 7125 (or keep the yamaha and use it as the pre)

Question 2. Would I be better suited replacing the center channel from my 6700 first and then focusing on the amp?

ps..I watch more movies than listen to music. And for right now, I would rather go more budget oriented.

Thanks guys.

Early B.

The first thing you shoud do is buy the LsiC center channel (or use a pair of Lsi9's). The center channel is the most important speaker in your HT system. Then do the following in this order:

-- replace the sub
-- get separate amplification for the front soundstage
-- upgrade the remaining speakers to Lsi series
-- invest in good speaker cables and interconnects
-- replace the Yammie with a pre

slush

Early B. wrote:

The first thing you shoud do is buy the LsiC center channel (or use a pair of Lsi9's). The center channel is the most important speaker in your HT system. Then do the following in this order:

-- replace the sub
-- get separate amplification for the front soundstage
-- upgrade the remaining speakers to Lsi series
-- invest in good speaker cables and interconnects
-- replace the Yammie with a pre

Thanks for your reply. I meant to type that I have a PSW650 sub.

fireshoes

I would get the amp first. Then the LSiC. Then the pre. And make sure you've got a good dvd/cd player.

Midnite Mick

Welcome Slush. As a relative new member myself I hope that you find this board to be as helpful as I have.

I have to agree with Fireshoes on this one. Priority number one should be to get an amp that can handle the draw of the Lsi25's.

Good luck,
Mike

fireshoes

The PSW650 isn't that bad. I feel the amp is much more important given what he's driving the LSi's with at the moment. I know, I drove the 15's with that receiver for a month or so. It was terrible.

Early B.

Even if he gets the amp first, his sytem is not going to sound well for movies because of a weak center channel. With a decent amp, the fronts will overpower and outperform the rest of the system even more than it already is.

Early B.

By the way, Slush, you opened up a huge can of worms by purchasing those 25's. Now you gotta upgrade every other component in your system and it's gonna cost ya a whole wad of cash.

Welcome to our world.

fireshoes

I agree the center needs replaced. The center and amp are "must do's" and the r preamp and good dvd player are "should do's."

slush

Early B. wrote:

By the way, Slush, you opened up a huge can of worms by purchasing those 25's. Now you gotta upgrade every other component in your system and it's gonna cost ya a whole wad of cash.

Welcome to our world.

I am starting to come to that realization. :mad:

slush

Thanks for the replies so far guys. I can feel my wallet getting lighter as yall type.

Midnite Mick

Awesome price on those 25's by the way.

I think that the amp is the greatest priority so that he can atleast enjoy some music and have peace of mind that everything will be safe.

Mike

edit: sorry missed his PS

bobman1235

slush - don't neglect the used market. You'll save TONS of cash using eBay or audiogon when looking for an amp or center channel.

AndyGwis

I agree, Slush, you may be wise to unload those Lsi25s before this gets too messy. . . how close are you to Dallas, TX?!?!?

On the real, get an amp for the Lsi25s, then get the center channel. . . I think with an amp, you could run stereo or a 4.1 channel setup without the center and be happy, at least until you can find a killer deal on a used LSiC

Don't be afraid to go used. Get a good 200 to 300 @4 ohms amp and you should be set.

Willow

why not just run in phantom for now. once the amp is bought save $$$ and buy your centre .

bobman1235

Yeah, it really depends on your room. I've been running my HT without a center since I got my new TV (no room for it) and I haven't even noticed a difference - most of my seating is directly in front of the TV and diaglog seems to come from the center anyway.

cfrizz

The amp should be the first priority Slush & don't get less than 200wpc! You can keep your receiver if it has preouts. You will need that extra power as you fully convert to a LSI system!

Welcome to CP!

slush

Thanks a ton guys. I really appreciate all the help!

I will take a look at the used market also

Pepi28

AMP first, AMP first, AMP first.

slush

I am confused....what should I add/replace first?

Midnite Mick

slush wrote:

I am confused....what should I add/replace first?

Replace the lsi15's first and save yourself. Oh and throw away your computer so you can't go on forums such as this.

Mike

McLoki

slush wrote:

I am confused....what should I add/replace first?

Get an amp for the LSi25's and run a phantom center (at least compare that to running the one you have).

Get a decent sub.

Get a LSiC (and a mono amp if you did not get a multichannel one to run your LSi25's)

Get a decent Pre-amp. (whatever brand floats your boat...)

Get new rear speakers - (not as important to match, but they do make a difference. - for mostly movies, many like the LSiFx, I prefer the LSi7's - to each their own...) (oh, yea - more amps.....)

Michael

slush

Thanks

slush

Is my old 6700HTIB worth selling (PSW650+bookies and center)? That would free up some coin for a new sub and surrounds.

surfntomm

if you are on that tight of a budget why not look into the real of pro amps to feed your lsi 25's some juice. i have a samson servo 550 and it has 275 watts/ch at 4 ohms although the thd could be lower i really dont hear it at all. id highly recommend getting an lsic off ebay as well. if you mainly listen to movies you could buy monoblocks amps and get more later on once your wallet can take another hit. id say get 2 mono blocks and if you can afford it get the lsic with another monoblock and bite the bullet now cus it will happen sooner or later, no doubt about that.

MSALLA

I've been upgrading my system on a very small budjet with used and e-bay dealers. You can get an amp on the bay for well under $1000.00 used. Thats for multi-channel 200watts per, like an Adcom or other fairly good brand. Audiosorce is selling new Lsic's for 402.00 shipped w/ warrenty. I think they mirror the factory warrenty not actual polk warrenty. Also check the Flea Market (after you get your posts in) for some deals from trusted people on the fourm. I hate being on a budjet but it feels good when your system starts coming together and you relize that you did it for less money then the average person.

Sami

First amp on the list would do wonders for 25's and your future centre channel. Don't worry about the 100WPC rating, this should be very good match for those speaks and it doesn't hurt your wallet that much.

http://home.houston.rr.com/soundsgoodtome/invsep.htm

Phantom centre isn't a bad option, much better than running your current one. You can get away without a sub for now but if you're after a good movie experience you will need one eventually. But if you have a budget then don't worry about one now, or look for DIY route if you can work with wood.

slush

Sorry guys I made a mistake in my original post.

The HTIB I am using to fill out my system is the 7600 line, not the 6700.

(not that it makes much of a difference)

McLoki

Personally I would hold onto it until you don't need any parts of it anymore, then sell it.

I.E. - you can still use the sub (while waiting to purchase one). The 7600 series is actually a pretty good little speaker. (compared to an LSi its not that great, but compared to most HTIB speakers - its really pretty good)

If you need to use the rears for awhile (as that may be the last thing you upgrade) I would not be embarrased to do so. (I used my RM6600 rear speakers with my LSi fronts for quite awhile before I could afford to change out the rear speakers)

I would say most of the value that is going to go out of those speakers already has - so you are not losing anything by holding onto them a little longer (if you can still use them).

Michael

slush

Thanks McLoki