Pre-amp suggestions for Anthem 2 SE's

univera
univera Posts: 848
edited August 2006 in 2 Channel Audio
Since I too am getting ready to become de-virginized with tube gear, I need some suggestions. I have read through a great deal of past tube threads, which were extremely helpful. ND, BMD Picker, DG, Max and more. There is great knowledge in this forum.

My particular question is in regards to a pre-amp for the pair of Anthem 2 SE's that are in the mail. Since these are hybrid amps, should I be looking at SS or tube pre-amps? Most of the discussion has been on whats more important: tube pre or tube amp. Since mine is a half-breed, I'm not sure where to go.

Madmax has stated that IHO the hybrid amps have the black background that he prefers and that he attributes this quiet background to the tube amp itself. He also mentions that he feels the "musical involvement" comes from the tube pre-amp. Since I haven't even heard a tube piece before, I don't know where to start. Do the Dodd/Dared suggestions still apply to a hybrid?

I could see spending $500.00 to start, but I want a pre-amp worthy of these amps, so fire away. New or used. REMOTE REQUIRED. HT Passthrough seems to be a good idea, but I may have two dedicated systems. I am bi-amping, so I assume I need dual pre-outs.
UNIVERA
Historic Charleston SC

2 Channel:
SDA-SRS's RDO tweets
Biamped Anthem 2 SE's w/1970's NOS Siemens CCA's
Anthem Pre 2L w/E.harmonix platinum matched 6H23's
CDP- NAD C 542



HT setup:
AVR: NAD T 773
Rears: Polk LC80i
DVD: Toshiba 3109 dual tray
Subs: Velodyne and M&K
T.V.: Sony KDL-52XBR4 w/Vans Evers Clean Line Jr.
Conditioner: Panamax M5100EX

Master Bedroom Sony 40KDL-XBR3

"I love it when a plan comes together." Hannibal Smith, The A-Team
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2006
    It's a loaded question but I think the best match would be a Pre2L, also from Anthem. It's usually in that bracket for price, remote control, dual outputs, easily modded(future) and uses a great tube, 6922/6DJ8. You can color up or color down with alot in that tube family.

    Just a suggestion, and I have more, but that pre-amp always stands out to me.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • univera
    univera Posts: 848
    edited August 2006
    dorokusai wrote:
    It's a loaded question but I think the best match would be a Pre2L, also from Anthem. It's usually in that bracket for price, remote control, dual outputs, easily modded(future) and uses a great tube, 6922/6DJ8. You can color up or color down with alot in that tube family.

    Just a suggestion, and I have more, but that pre-amp always stands out to me.

    I'm all ears. I read a review on both pieces (Pre 2L and 2 SE) used together, which was a good review but not mind blowing. Maybe I am reading too much into it. Grain of salt applied:) Actually, the biggest "beef" I have read in regards to this unit is that the remote volume control is not good and is very hard to dial in. No fine control.

    Do you like that piece in general or for specific duty with the Anthem amp or hybrid amps in general? I have taken your advice in past threads to go with the factory tubes for a bit and just enjoy, although George is tossing in some extras. So as far as coloring, I assume you mean rolling, and I want to be happy right off the bat (who doesn't?) before I start tinkering a bit.

    Edit: forgot the link http://www.avrev.com/equip/anthem2/index.html
    UNIVERA
    Historic Charleston SC

    2 Channel:
    SDA-SRS's RDO tweets
    Biamped Anthem 2 SE's w/1970's NOS Siemens CCA's
    Anthem Pre 2L w/E.harmonix platinum matched 6H23's
    CDP- NAD C 542



    HT setup:
    AVR: NAD T 773
    Rears: Polk LC80i
    DVD: Toshiba 3109 dual tray
    Subs: Velodyne and M&K
    T.V.: Sony KDL-52XBR4 w/Vans Evers Clean Line Jr.
    Conditioner: Panamax M5100EX

    Master Bedroom Sony 40KDL-XBR3

    "I love it when a plan comes together." Hannibal Smith, The A-Team
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2006
    The remote control issue was a problem that was eventually identified by Anthem. Sorry slipped my mind.....but just ask if it has the new volume pot and you're golden. It's not that common anyways but the reviews still exist.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited August 2006
    If you would like.....c'mon over at some point. I've got a couple of tube preamps hooked up that you can give a listen to.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2006
    That's exactly what you should do.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited August 2006
    I'd probably pass out from utter shock just upon walking into Troy's listening room.
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  • univera
    univera Posts: 848
    edited August 2006
    TroyD wrote:
    If you would like.....c'mon over at some point. I've got a couple of tube preamps hooked up that you can give a listen to.

    BDT

    How about this weekend? I'd love to check it out and compare the sound, especially since you have some SDA's for a similar comparison. I hope you are comfortable de-frocking me:D The 33 year old virgin.....
    UNIVERA
    Historic Charleston SC

    2 Channel:
    SDA-SRS's RDO tweets
    Biamped Anthem 2 SE's w/1970's NOS Siemens CCA's
    Anthem Pre 2L w/E.harmonix platinum matched 6H23's
    CDP- NAD C 542



    HT setup:
    AVR: NAD T 773
    Rears: Polk LC80i
    DVD: Toshiba 3109 dual tray
    Subs: Velodyne and M&K
    T.V.: Sony KDL-52XBR4 w/Vans Evers Clean Line Jr.
    Conditioner: Panamax M5100EX

    Master Bedroom Sony 40KDL-XBR3

    "I love it when a plan comes together." Hannibal Smith, The A-Team
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited August 2006
    Sounds good, let's see if we can get Dave on the stick as well.

    Lemme check w/my social secretary and see what's what.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited August 2006
    audiobliss wrote:
    I'd probably pass out from utter shock just upon walking into Troy's listening room.

    Thanks but there are many others here with much better gear than I.

    I dig my stuff though.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • univera
    univera Posts: 848
    edited August 2006
    I hear you on that. Perhaps I will have one of the new Anthem's to play with. I think one is in the mail.
    UNIVERA
    Historic Charleston SC

    2 Channel:
    SDA-SRS's RDO tweets
    Biamped Anthem 2 SE's w/1970's NOS Siemens CCA's
    Anthem Pre 2L w/E.harmonix platinum matched 6H23's
    CDP- NAD C 542



    HT setup:
    AVR: NAD T 773
    Rears: Polk LC80i
    DVD: Toshiba 3109 dual tray
    Subs: Velodyne and M&K
    T.V.: Sony KDL-52XBR4 w/Vans Evers Clean Line Jr.
    Conditioner: Panamax M5100EX

    Master Bedroom Sony 40KDL-XBR3

    "I love it when a plan comes together." Hannibal Smith, The A-Team
  • malikarshad
    malikarshad Posts: 527
    edited August 2006
    I don't have much experience in tube gear as I have an entry level Dared Pre.
    I'm happy with it so far given that I use it with Cary Audio Amp.
    I have rolled the cheap stock Chinese tubes with Mullards 12AT7's.
    I have not tried any other tube pre so I cannot give you any opinion about others. I would be very interested to try the Dodd ELP with the Cary amp.

    Speakers=>Salk Soundscape 8, Soundscape Center,Surrounds-Dali Rubicon LCR, Lsi7
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    Source => Sonore MicroRendu, Oppo BDP-103, Mede8er 600XD, Dune HD Smart D1, Synology DS1813+(16TB)
    Sub - JTR Captivator S2 (Dual 18")
    Power - Furman IT-Ref20i on dedicated 30Amp circuit with Furutech GTX-R outlet
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  • BOLIN6861
    BOLIN6861 Posts: 13
    edited August 2006
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    one GFA-545 and a ADCOM GTP-550 pre amp
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