Lsi's and denon reciever

The Doc
The Doc Posts: 5
edited January 2006 in Speakers
this is mostly a power question..im going to be using either denons 4806 or 5805 reciever and i wanted to know if these recievers can do a good job of powering the lsi's series of speakers...lsi15s,lsi center..lsi fx surrounds,lsi7s for rears in a 7.1 setup.I have gotten responses saying no need for any addtional amp and others that say to use an addtional amp.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited January 2006
    Welcome.

    Considering you're powering the 15's and it's a full 7.1 setup- get a separate amp.

    If you decide to keep the denon, make sure the ohm switch is set to 8. Not 6 or 4.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited January 2006
    The Doc wrote:
    I have gotten responses saying no need for any addtional amp and others that say to use an addtional amp.
    I bet you have gotten that response from those selling the reciever, not those who own the speakers... :)

    If you are still in the purchasing stage I would just go with separates. If that is not an option (some people just like the all in one of an AVR) look at recievers from B&K, Sunfire, Rotel, etc.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited January 2006
    Most definitly look at external amplifiers. If you haven't already bought the Denon, or if you can take it back, I would. For that kind of money you could get a nice HT pre/pro to go with your amp/amps.

    Here's a list of manufacturers to get you started:

    Outlaw Audio Products Page

    Rotel HT Multi-Channel Amplifiers

    Adcom Multi-Channel Amplifiers

    B&K Products

    NAD Home Theater Products

    Audosource Amplifiers

    AMC Amplifiers

    Sunfire Amplifiers

    Parasound
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited January 2006
    I have that exact same speaker system and can confidently say that the Denon receivers listed would do a fine job of driving those speakers to a level that would satisfy the majority of listeners. However I would say that you could get better performance for less out of a decent receiver as a preamp/processor and a separate power amp. Just depends on your preferences and situation.

    Enjoy!
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  • The Doc
    The Doc Posts: 5
    edited January 2006
    I was looking at the denon brand because it has features not offered in many other av recievers in that class range that suits my needs..Its mostly going to be used in a HT situation and prob not blasted to high levels. I was thinking of a 200w outlaw amp to boost the fronts
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited January 2006
    That should work pretty nicely. Get three Outlaw M2200's to power your front three speakers and run the rest off the Denon. Then, after you're flabbergasted over how much of an improvement the amps made, you can get M2200's for the rest of your speakers!
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  • The Doc
    The Doc Posts: 5
    edited January 2006
    7 m220s? where do you guys for the space for 7 amps..wouldnt one of outlaws 7x200 amps do the same job?
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited January 2006
    Sure would. But you said you only wanted to amp the front speakers. It'd be a smarter move to just go ahead and amp them all. But the M2200's don't take up that much space, as they're very thin.
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited January 2006
    You should just get 7x200 Outlaw & be done with it. I would also look at getting a lower priced Denon if you go this route.

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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited January 2006
    Zero wrote:
    The 5803 can run your LSi's just fine. No, they wont sparkle and shine to potential, but it will get the job done and you can sit back and enjoy all the features you desire. I would advise running three outlaw amps... for the center / left / right channels if you feel it necessary and can spend the extra coinage.
    in that case, so will a 3806. Basically will give you the same sound quality with less features and a whole lot less $$ spent.
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  • ninerbj
    ninerbj Posts: 870
    edited January 2006
    Space for all those M2200's is an issue...
    Where do you plug them all into???
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited January 2006
    ninerbj wrote:
    Space for all those M2200's is an issue...
    Where do you plug them all into???

    We all run our systems off of large diesel generators and $2 power strips from walmart...... Don't you???? :D
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  • ninerbj
    ninerbj Posts: 870
    edited January 2006
    "We all run our systems off of large diesel generators and $2 power strips from walmart...... Don't you???? "

    At my house, it's over priced hamsters and what I call "the wheel of fortune"
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited January 2006
    ninerbj wrote:
    At my house, it's over priced hamsters and what I call "the wheel of fortune"

    That works too. At least if you ever decide that's not enough power you can easily step up to squirrels. :rolleyes:
    HT
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  • bassaholic
    bassaholic Posts: 315
    edited January 2006
    I have the Denon 3805 and even though I have never heard it run the LSi series....I have no complaints with it running the RTi speakers. IT WILL POWER your LSi's fine. and yes I just looked at the oerator manual on my 3805 IMO its a powerful reciever capable of NORMAL listening levels.
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    Monster Power HDP-2500 surge pro.



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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited January 2006
    I know this isn't exactly what you were looking for, but though you might like to see it depending on what features you were looking for.

    Dennon 5800 AVR - $1,650 on the Gon

    Just wanted to make sure you had seen it since you seem to really like the big dennons.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited January 2006
    Now that's a beast!
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited January 2006
    What's telling to me, is that he is upgrading to separates!!!

    Doc, get a Denon 3805 or 3806 & an Outlaw 7x200 & enjoy!
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  • Lsi9
    Lsi9 Posts: 616
    edited January 2006
    I had a Denon 3600 running my lsi9s and once I went separate, they sounded MUCH better, go Outlaw all the way, you won't regret it

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