Rm6005's new purchase

dale 442

Hey all, my first post.

I've been a long time Polk fan and added the RM6005 with the PSW10 sub for HT use only. Not a big movie watcher, but with the audio improvment it does make it more fun to watch (and listen) to some of my favorite movies. The audio improvment is huge because I was using nothing for movies prior.

My questions are;

Is there a definative answer to how to hook up the sub? The Polk way or use the Sub out from the receiver (low end JVC RX-6042S)?? I am currently hooked up the Polk way. I have to admit I am surprised at how well it works watching movies. I thought, at this low end, it would sound lousy but it really doesn't. I can say that I could not live with this as a home audio system though. :eek:

Also, can I hook up my Paradigm sub in conjunction with the psw10 to take the load off of it??

Thanks in advance,

Dale
And the rest...

Polk SDA 2B's
Carver TFM-45
Sony X33ES- CD direct to Carver
Sony DVP NS-325 DVD
Paradigm PS-1000
ect...

dale 442

Well, I did answer one of my questions. Maybe both.
I hooked up my Paradigm sub to the sub out of the receiver with the RM6005's hooked up the Polk way. Nice little improvment in the bass!

I turned down the Polk sub down a bit to take the load off and left the Paradigm set the same.
It will be a slight bit of a pain when I want to listen to the Carver setup (music only) as I have to switch the leads back to the Carver amp from the lowly JVC AV receiver at the Paradigm sub.

Not a too bad a deal though.

For the money I spent on the RM6005's and the JVC receiver I think this came out all right. Not great but alright.

astropuppy

Dale,
Did you happen to compare this speaker package with any others? I am very tempted to order a RM6005 system from Crutchfield, many because of their no hassle return policy; Plus they have a great price. But, so far I have been unimpressed with any satellite system I have heard. They all just seem to thin. I'm also considering buying 4 (heavily) discounted R15's and continue to use my cs350 center. But, I'm really trying to reduce the size of things. Then, I'd still need a subwoofer, which becomes a whole other story. Your Polk way subwoofer hookup is very encouraging.

dale 442

I did not get the chance to directly compare these to any others. The store that had them on sale (Future Shop in Canada) didn't have the Polk's in stock.
I took a bit of a flyer buying them based on my history with the Polk name and the fact Future Shop also has an excellent return policy.

These do sound tiney and somewhat thin listening to music, but fine to me when watching a movie. Enough for me I guess is all I can say.

The addition of the second sub help fill the gaps and with infinite bass adjustments between the 2 subs and the receiver it gives a lot of tuneability. Maybe too much.

Hard to tell you what to do. These are very small and decently priced for what you get. If there is a no hassle return policy then you wouldn't be stuck with them in the event you don't like them.

Dale
Polk SDA 2B's
Carver TFM-45
Sony X33ES- CD direct to Carver
Sony DVP NS-325 DVD
Paradigm PS-1000
JVC RX-6042S
Polk RM6005's

astropuppy

I take it from price the RM6750BK is an upgrade which CC has on sale for a great price. I'm going to try and have a listen during lunch today.

dale 442

Let me know what you think. I would like to hear the difference between the 6005's and the 6750's.

Dale

dale 442

Well, I've been here before on the "Net".

In that,
Low end purchasers are ignored. No one want's to help the "Newbie" that is using low end crap.
I only had one reply to my question that was posted...hmm.
It again seems that if it is from a "Newbie" AND he is using low end crap it is totally ignored.
Seen this sooooo many times to date. I hope it isn't true here.

Us low end buyers (at times) are the ones that need the help more than all !!
Come on!!

Help these, such as me, people!

You can see by my sig. file I am a audio guy. I've learned the hard way over all these years, now I'm here...I've found the forum where I'd like to be.

I've owned many different brands of crap over the years and I'm still very dedicated to Polk.

Now that I'm looking at low end crap the thread is ignored. I am the one that needs the help the most. This is NOT about ego...or money...or is it here???

My point;

IF you have knowledge to share, share it with ALL and not just the already educated, like me! My post was to learn NEW things about HT.
Ignore the "Low end factor" and help, NOT ignore. You guys have tons of experience(Which I can easily see) to help the newbies, that is what a Forum is suppose to be about...I thought.

Help the one that "Actually" NEEDS it.

Off the box now...

Happy New Year to all !!

Dale

Dale
Polk SDA 2B's
Carver TFM-45
Sony X33ES- CD direct to Carver
Sony DVP NS-325 DVD
Paradigm PS-1000
JVC RX-6042S
Polk RM6005's

jarros

Hey Dale welcome to Club Polk!

I'm sorry to see that your post has been somewhat ignored. I've been in your position before (and still sorta am, my surround sound is nowhere near "high end" compared to the majority of users on this board). Let me see if I can help you out:

As far as which method to use for wiring the sub, it's pretty mixed. One setup will work great in one system/room, while it may sound completely different in another system. Basically both methods work, and it's really up to you to decide which sounds better for your situation. If you're wanting to use both subs, there are even more ways to hook up your subs!

The Paradigm will likely be a better subwoofer than the Polk. With that in mind, you'll want to make it your "main" sub and have the Polk compliment it. Here are some hookup methods that came to mind:

1)Use the Polk to beef up your center channel. If your Receiver allows it, set the center speaker to Large and the rest of the speakers to Small. Get the Polk sub and wire it "the Polk way" with the center speaker ONLY (you'll have the center speaker outs from the receiver going into the high-input on the sub, and the high output going to the center). The center channel usually handles over 50% of all the sound you hear in surround sound. Attaching the polk sub will help fill out the sound from the center. Try to position the polk sub as close to center as possible. You may consider putting the sub behind the TV if you can't get it beside/below the TV. As for the Paradigm, wire it into the line level Subwoofer output on the receiver. On the receiver, set the crossover point to about 100hz, maybe 125. If the receiver has a "plus" setting for the sub, turn it on. In this mode, the sub gets the low frequencies from all the "Small" speakers AND the "Large" speakers, so low rumbles from the Center channel signal will go to both the Polk sub and the Paradigm.

2)Use the Polk sub as a "surround" subwoofer. Use the Sub out on the receiver to feed the Paradigm. Wire the Polk sub with the left and right surrounds "the Polk way". Set all speakers to small except for the surround speakers. BjornB17 did this, as mentioned in this thread.

3) Stack the subs. Use the sub output on the receiver, then get a Y splitter to send the signal to both subs. You could also try putting the subs in 2 different places, but you'd really have to play around with that.

4)Use the Polk in another system. The Paradigm will perform much better in Home Theater, and you'll be a lot happier with it there. Maybe you can use the Polk in a computer setup.

As far as using the Paradigm in your HT setup and your 2ch setup, if you're handy with a soldering iron you could make a switchbox with a DPDT switch or two.

Hope all that didn't sound too complicated.

Good luck, and let us know how it works out!

Jared

PolkThug

dale 442 wrote:

Well, I've been here before on the "Net".
In that,
Low end purchasers are ignored. No one want's to help the "Newbie" that is using low end crap.
I only had one reply to my question that was posted...hmm.

I was too wasted to answer this post on New Year's Eve. ;-)

Also try using the search function on subwoofer hookup.

DAMCB

Hi Dale 442- I have a Polk RM 6700 6.1 system w/ a PSW 300 sub that I moved to my bedroom after upgrading my main HT. It sounds great in the smaller room. I think that Polk wants these sat/sub systems hooked up the "Polk Way" because they have a 130hz cutoff in the sats (not a X-over) and want to avoid the problems that might occur with your receiver's sub out if it cannot be set above 130hz.

dale 442

Thanks for the replies!

Jarros;

I do plan on using a switch for the Paradigm sub. It would make life easier.

I guess the bottom line is to play with the setup until I find out what works best for me.

For me, these little guys (6005's) work pretty nice. I didn't really have high hopes that it could go loud or deep enough. Surprise to me!!
One day, knowing myself, I will be down at the local stores auditioning speakers and receivers in an attempt to upgrade. But I am in the game now and once I learn more and understand the limitations that I have here I'll be able to make a more educated choice.
But for now, I'm happy!

Thanks again for the replies,

Dale

astropuppy

dale 442 wrote:

Let me know what you think. I would like to hear the difference between the 6005's and the 6750's.

Dale

Made it to the big red store today in search of open box deals. Not to be found; but, I did get a chance to hear the 6005's with an infinity sub. Sounded better then most satellites but still really thin to my ears. I ab'd them with a (front's only) pair of r15's. My ears preferred the r15's, but I seem to prefer 2 way anything's over single drivers regardless of brand. The 6005 (5 speaker) set was around 250. I'm going to look around for an online bargain on some r15's. Thou it will be an insult to my cs350 center, I think it's my cheapest solution. Also found a little Velodyne VX10 sub for under 150 delivered online.

Just for grins, I may get two VX10's, one for each r15. Doubt it will make a difference, but, it will be fun. I may even learn something.

shawn474

Dale,
I too have the RM6005 package and am running it with a yamaha RX-V995 and an infinity bu-2 10" sub. As far as I'm concerned, there is little need for me to spend thousand's of dollars when I can get just as much enjoyment out of it spending a quarter of that. That being said, if I had a few grand burning a hole in my pocket, there is little else I would spend it on.

As far as your question about which way to run the sub, I recommend the "Polk way" where it is run from the satellite to the sub and the sub to the receiver. I am a little disappointed about the center channel and will upgrade when I get a little extra cash. Musically, I can crank these things and still have great sound. Speaking in HT terms, I don't like the center channel and have minor complaints about some hollowness in the explosions, etc. But, I expected that going with the lower end speakers. As I said, it suiits my needs.

I have heard the RM6750 and must say that it doesn'y sound much better than the RM6005. In fact I was thinking about upgrading to 7.1 and called polk to see if I could order extra satellites for the RM6005. The lady told me that they don't carry them anymore, but the RM6751 (6750 satellites) are the comporable speaker - basically this years version. Considering I only spent $125.00 on the RM6005 at circuit city on a mismark I am completely happy with the purchase with the premise that I'm upgrading the center channel.

dale 442

Just to update where I am at to this point. :cool:

I had both of the subs hooked up as this;

Paradigm from the receiver's sub out.
Polk, hooked up the Polk way using the front channel speaker outputs of the receiver and then up to the Polk front channel speakers.

After doing some reading here, I now have it hooked up as follows;

Paradigm still hooked up to the receiver's sub out.
I now have the Polk 6005's hooked up to the center channel speaker output of the receiver. Then up to the center channel speaker from the Polk sub.

So far, this is the best I have heard this while watching movies or TV. Remember I have no intention of using this new stuff for audio. Got that one covered already.

We'll see how long this one lasts based upon how many more ideas come forth here. :eek:

Dale
Polk SDA 2B's
Carver TFM-45 power amp
Sony X33ES CD-direct to Carver
Sony DVP NS-325 DVD
Paradigm PS-1000
New stuff:
JVC RX-6042S A/V receiver
Polk RM6005's with PSW10

astropuppy

Shawn makes a real good point and some of our favorite retailers have put this system - with subwoofer - on sale this weekend for 300 bones. May just have to try one. Thanks for confusing me guys. What I can't believe is that those sleek speaker stands are 90 bucks a pair.