Don't know which Polks to get from my rear speakers.
Hi, the room size is about 16x9.5.
For my rear speakers I'm looking at the rti4's and the fxi3's. I'm mostly going to use the setup for tv and dvd watching. I went to my local futureshop to demo them, the bookshelves just sound so much cleaner than the surround sound ones, but the guys say the fxi3's are the ones to get for dvd watching. What are your guys' perspectives. Thanks
For my rear speakers I'm looking at the rti4's and the fxi3's. I'm mostly going to use the setup for tv and dvd watching. I went to my local futureshop to demo them, the bookshelves just sound so much cleaner than the surround sound ones, but the guys say the fxi3's are the ones to get for dvd watching. What are your guys' perspectives. Thanks
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What are your mains?Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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rti8's
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It would depend on how you will be setting up the rears
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what do u mean?
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If the surrounds are going to the sides of your listening position, get the fx's, if the surrounds are going behind you, get the Rti's.
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Originally posted by PolkThug
If the surrounds are going to the sides of your listening position, get the fx's, if the surrounds are going behind you, get the Rti's.
couldn't have said it better
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well which way is better?
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Depends on if your room layout do you have side walls close by is your couch up against the back wall ?
my couch is against back wall and I can't use the di-bi as I have patio doors on one side of the room and cannot hook anthing to that side. I use rti4 for my rears on stands. Not allowed (waf) to wall mount them above ear position. -
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this link is a pic of my room setup. what should i choose -
I would definitely get the FXi3 for surround.... especially in your case. Getting a bookshelf for surround is tricky - you must know how to position it right (behind the couch) whereas the FXi3 is more forgiving of placement.
The only caveat with the FXi3 is the fact that it is not as good as the RTi4 with regards to multichannel music.
But, in the end... I would still recommend the FXi3.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
anyone else think i should get the surrounds instead of the bookshelve ones for my room setup?
im in the position for $75 more to get the surrounds but like i said earlier, i just want to know the best for my room. -
That is purely subjective.The only caveat with the FXi3 is the fact that it is not as good as the RTi4 with regards to multichannel music.
The only way to be certain is to audition the speakers your interested with your gear and source material, in your home. -
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Yep,Yep,Yep.
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Originally posted by Frank Z
That is purely subjective.
The only way to be certain is to audition the speakers your interested with your gear and source material, in your home.
How is it subjective? If the FXi3 were indeed as proficient with music as the RTi4, then why dont more people get the FXi3 as mains?
Not arguing, just wondering...Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Apples and oranges. A Bipole/Dipole speaker is not designed to be a main speaker, it is designed to provide a diffused sound, and that is exactly what a surround speaker should do. Using a direct radiating speaker as a side suuround speaker will cause the surround channels to be highly localized, whereas a bipole/dipole will create a more seamless sound stage without localization.
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since your system is for movies more than music- i would get the f/x's, put them on the side walls (the way they're supposed to be in a 5.1 setup) and use the dipole setting.
if you're system is going to be based on music rather than movies- i'm still not a monopole fan for surrounds, but that's just me. I like bipoles for music, especially with SACD. Bipole mode provides a very nice middle ground between directional and diffuse.
either way, the F/X's will let you choose between dipole or bipole at a flick of the switch. my layout is as follows:
rti-4 front L&R
csi-3 Center
Fx300i white SIDE Surrounds (Dipole Mode)
Fx300i white BACK Surrounds (Bipole Mode)
hope this helps.
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Originally posted by Frank Z
Apples and oranges. A Bipole/Dipole speaker is not designed to be a main speaker, it is designed to provide a diffused sound, and that is exactly what a surround speaker should do. Using a direct radiating speaker as a side suuround speaker will cause the surround channels to be highly localized, whereas a bipole/dipole will create a more seamless sound stage without localization.
Hence you agree that the RTi4 is better than a bipole/dipole speaker for multichannel music? I have always thought that multichannel music is served best with monopole speakers all across the room... surround is only good for movies. Atleast thats what I have always read.
How can someone prefer a monopole for mains (especially for music) and not prefer monopoles for rears (when used for music as well)?
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
No I don't agree with that assertion at all. A properly set up and callibrated surround sound system using bipole/dipole speakers will project a seamless soundstage with no localization. A direct radiating speaker located in accordance with Sony's placement guide for Multi-channel SACD playback is close, but they also recommend 5 identical speakers too.
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when u look at my room setup, do you guys agree its going to be hard to perfectly place the right rear speaker if i get bookshelves?
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I think the di/bi's would be better for your setup. It would be difficult to place monopoles and get a realistic surround image.Tschüss
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Originally posted by Frank Z
No I don't agree with that assertion at all. A properly set up and callibrated surround sound system using bipole/dipole speakers will project a seamless soundstage with no localization. A direct radiating speaker located in accordance with Sony's placement guide for Multi-channel SACD playback is close, but they also recommend 5 identical speakers too.
Wouldnt you say that the RTi4 and his mains RTi8 (i think... too lazy to scroll all the way up) are closer matched and more "identical" than a pair of bipole/dipole speakers? If so, then the monopoles would definitely be better for multichannel SACD. Wouldnt this be the same for DVDA?Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Since the FXi3's are timber matched to the RTi8's it all boils down to personnal preference. There's no middle ground, either you like the Bipole/Dipole effect or you don't.
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If you are in Ottawa I may be able to help
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how willow
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I have 4's you buy the fx, I bring 4 to your house take a listen I take 4's back you decide
