horizontal lsi9's as center channel

snaabster
snaabster Posts: 2
edited November 2004 in Speakers
I have lsi9's as L and R fronts. I was thinking about using another PAIR of lsi9's placed on their sides (more or less end to end) as a very large and long center channel. They would be placed on 19 inch tall stands which would place the top of each speaker (which would in essence be one of the cherry veneer sides) just below the 65 inch picture screen. I would run them off a stereo amp.

Any thoughts anyone.

(PS - I could get a PAIR of used lsi9's for the price of ONE new Lsi center channel and I could not imagine a pair of lsi9's not trouncing a single lsi center; used lsi centers are hard to find)

Snaabster
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  • gregure
    gregure Posts: 871
    edited October 2004
    Personally, I've read a whole bunch of articles in favor of using the same speaker for each channel. So, the merits of your idea are readily apparent-timbre matching, consistency, and the 9 would more than suffice as a center speaker.

    My only reservations w/ the idea is that two speakers jimmy-rigged into one channel is overkill-one 9 would be just fine, and it wouldn't overemphasize your center soundfield, whereas two would. Second, why turn it on its side? Just put the 9 on a stand upright below your screen. I think that would work very well. If you have the cabality w/ your receiver, you could test out a good 6.1 setup w/ the xtra 9.
    Current System:

    Mitsubishi 30" LCD LT-3020 (for sale**)
    Vienna Acoustics Beethoven Concert Grand (Rosewood)-Mains (with Audioquest Mont Blanc cables)
    CSi5-Center (for sale**)
    FXi3-surrounds (for sale**)
    Martin Logan Depth-Sub
    B&K AVR 507
    Pimare CD21-CD Player
    Denon 1815-DVD Player
    Panamax M5500-EX-Line Conditioner
  • TheReaper
    TheReaper Posts: 636
    edited October 2004
    I would try one LSi9 first, and give it a try laying on it's side.

    Personally, I have an R50 laying on it's side for my center to match my left/right main R50s (click in my sig for a pic). When listening to a stereo source in surround mode. The R50 supports the center image, instead of anchoring the center, like the other real center channel speakers I tried. It's a subtle difference, but I get a nicely blended front.
    Win7 Media Center -> Onkyo TXSR702 -> Polk Rti70
  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited October 2004
    I'd only use 1 as well. I don't think you'd have any problem selling a single LSi9 here for someone to do the same; that is, if you don't need the other LSi9.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2004
    I don't think you'd have any problem selling a single LSi9 here for someone to do the same; that is, if you don't need the other LSi9.

    Yeah, cuz I'd be interested in buying the other one.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited October 2004
    Yeah, me too. I would split a pair of LSi7's or LSi9's with someone so I could get a decent center channel without having to fork over the dough for the LSiC. I would be trying to match a set of 7's(black would be nice too).

    A lot of people switch out the crossover in the LSiCfor an LSi9 crossover anyway(so why not get the LSi9 to begin with?).
    Tschüss
    Zach
  • TheReaper
    TheReaper Posts: 636
    edited November 2004
    One thing I forgot to mention, I hope the LSi9s are good with voices. A center channel for HT handles most of the dialog.

    Watch some TV with just your current 2 front LSi9s, and see how they handle voices. This will give you a general idea how the LSi9 will work as a center.
    Win7 Media Center -> Onkyo TXSR702 -> Polk Rti70
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited November 2004
    From a symmetry standpoint the 9 looks like a natural lay-it-on-its-side center candidate to me... Only thing I'd check to be sure of is its vertical dispersion (when upright)...

    One thing I've been noticing lately is standing above many smaller Polks gives me a sense of rising above the sound field. You'd think with a dome tweet it should not be an issue, but I hear a change I do not hear moving side to side... Could be the baffle...

    Suggest you lay one or both of your exising ones on side and check it out before buying...
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited November 2004
    I don't know. The centers are designed for proper dispersion of that info. They are also crossed over specifically for their purpose. Cascaded taper array....

    I'm sure it would work, but I think I'd probably use a specific design suited for the purpose.

    Just my .02.
  • malikarshad
    malikarshad Posts: 527
    edited November 2004
    I'm also ready to split a Lsi9 for a center channel if somebody is interested.
    PM me if anyone is interested and we can look for a deal.

    Speakers=>Salk Soundscape 8, Soundscape Center,Surrounds-Dali Rubicon LCR, Lsi7
    PreAmp, Amp => Marantz AV8801, ATI 6007 amp, Oppo HA-1 DAC
    Source => Sonore MicroRendu, Oppo BDP-103, Mede8er 600XD, Dune HD Smart D1, Synology DS1813+(16TB)
    Sub - JTR Captivator S2 (Dual 18")
    Power - Furman IT-Ref20i on dedicated 30Amp circuit with Furutech GTX-R outlet
    Screen=> JVC RS-45 projector Da-Lite HP 133" 2.35
  • gregure
    gregure Posts: 871
    edited November 2004
    Acousticsounddesign.com will sell LSi 9's for $620/pr brand new. No hassle, no ebay, just request it on their product request form.
    Current System:

    Mitsubishi 30" LCD LT-3020 (for sale**)
    Vienna Acoustics Beethoven Concert Grand (Rosewood)-Mains (with Audioquest Mont Blanc cables)
    CSi5-Center (for sale**)
    FXi3-surrounds (for sale**)
    Martin Logan Depth-Sub
    B&K AVR 507
    Pimare CD21-CD Player
    Denon 1815-DVD Player
    Panamax M5500-EX-Line Conditioner
  • brody05
    brody05 Posts: 329
    edited November 2004
    There not LSi9s but I have a pair of RT55is as centers, I tried some different combos but in the end found the best was one either side of the TV, run them off the front channel outputs to get the slight angle just right for the image then run them both off the center channel out puts, the only thing is that would half the impedance and the RT55is are an 8 ohm speaker so only 4 ohm in the way I have them set up so in your case it would be 4 into 2 ohm but if your amp can handle it or you have a second to help out this is an awesome sound, I had a CS1000p before hand and can easily say what I am currently running now is quite a bit better.

    Give it a try and see, good luck.

    Brody
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited November 2004
    Also can run twin LSi's in series and increase the load from 4 to 8-ohm... 2-ohm is asking a bit much from any AVR....
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited November 2004
    Tour, how would you wire them in series? Would this not mess up how the speakers are crossed over? The only way I can see to do this would be to wire the top posts in series and then the bottom posts in series.
    Tschüss
    Zach
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited November 2004
    EDIT: see next post...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited November 2004
    Wire the postive (red) AVR/ amp output to the first speaker's red post.

    Wire the first's black post to the second's red post.

    Wire the second's black post back to the AVR's/ amp's negative/ ground (black) post...

    You can do this in a single run with jumpers in place or in a bi-wire loop with jumpers removed...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD