This just in (in case you haven't heard)...

mhardy6647
mhardy6647 Posts: 33,888
edited November 19 in Electronics
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,443
    🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,643
    The purchase also includes Sonus Faber.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,196
    At least it means that some companies are still willing to invest in audio, so maybe Sound United will find appropriate suitors with deep pockets? 🤷‍♂️

    Interesting that Bose currently has no serious speakers in their portfolio, but now they’re acquiring Sonus Faber? 🤔
    Alea jacta est!
  • SIHAB
    SIHAB Posts: 4,950
    No highs
    No lows
    must be Sonus Faber
    Speakers: Polk Lsim, ATC SCM19 v2, NHT SuperzeroSpeaker Cables: DH Labs, Transparent, Wireworld, Canare, Monster: Beer budget, Bose ears
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,443
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    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,140
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    Yes; the perfect amp for my new Mcintosh 201's
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,111
    Is that real?

    I'd be interested to try some Bose stuff. Mostly some of the older speakers, though, I think.

    I've never really listened to any Bose speakers or systems, but I thoroughly enjoy Bose headphones. Five different models over the years, 3 currently in rotation.

    The QC Ultra is the best so far, imho. Nice deals on their refurbs. I found each to take some time to break in. QC-35ii is my second favorite, mostly for comfort and more tactile buttons as well as the ability to add an external boom mic. No longer produced, unfortunately, but the QC is the current equivalent. Skip the QC-45. No one seemed to like those.. The NC 700 is nice, too, if you like to have touch controls/gestures.

    All of these headphones have tubes in them.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,116
    If ARC didn't separate from McIntosh 4 years or so ago, they may have also been wrapped up in this acquisition. It was owned by TWS Enterprises, a private company owned wholly by Trent Suggs, former Audio Research sales director. It is now owned by Valerio Cora, who also founded and owns Acora Acoustics.

    https://www.cepro.com/audio-video/audio-research-acquired-by-ar-tube-audio-corporation/

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,888
    edited November 20
    Per @msg's post above: The Bose 301 (at least some versions; there have been quite a few) is a very listenable little loudspeaker IMO and FWIW. Some of the less "showy" Bose loudspeakers get (got) midrange reproduction quite right, to my ears & taste.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,888
    oh, I got a leaked copy of the slide deck used to sell Mac to Bose. Thought you all would enjoy it.

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,729
    They have the midrange down because that's all they do 😅

    Sorry couldn't help it
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,523
    Sonus Faber dipped their toes into in-car audio systems too. Well, at least with Maserati. I know McIntosh has their branded systems in the expensive Jeep models.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12paV2xyCPI
  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,196
    👆 Also Lamborghini.
    Alea jacta est!
  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,111
    I really don't understand the trash talk on Bose, but I think it's because I've only heard their headphones.

    I'd love to try some 901s, or as many of the different mid to upper level series as I could easily get hands on. I remember Dave @westmassguy was particularly fond of his 901s. He had some kind of special edition, though I don't recall the specific model.

    I still have all my Polk speakers, from LSiM 703s - nearly the full LSiM line - to LSi7s (love), L200s and L800s and some unmodified vintage I will get around to someday, but Wharfedale is my current favorite sound. So pleasing that I feel no desire to chase. I acknowledge Ignorance is bliss. And it's also cheaper.

    I know there are better out there, but it's a nice place to be, feeling content with gear (mostly) My next jump would be to their Elysian 2 large bookshelf. If it can even be called a bookshelf any longer.

    I'd check out that tubed thing above, but wouldn't expect anything profound. Plus, I don't really have anywhere I'd use such a piece. Closest area may be the kitchen, currently served by a SBT and JBL Charge2+ portable. Provides presence, synced with the rest of the home space systems
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,729
    edited November 20
    I think the major hang up with bose is that in general they deliver sub par performance at their price points compared to other manufactures.

    All while actively slamming other loudspeakers and touting they are superior.

    I'll never forget the epcot demo of bose where they show big bully speakers then lower it to reveal the little cubes

    But they are easier to use generally and will accepted by the general public.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,888
    The 901s aren't bad, but they require (and, fortunately, they can take) copious amounts of power, and they don't image at all in the modern sense of the term.
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,523
    I held off on buying a pair of Bose noise canceling headphones for years because they were more expensive than brands that looked to be similar. When I eventually bought a pair I was very impressed with them and consider them to be worth the premium in cost because they sound good, are comfortable, the noise canceling really works, and they are durable. Others sounded good but weren't durable, including the Polk headphones I bought.
  • Many years ago the store I worked for was trying to get the Infinity speaker franchise and Arnie Nudell and Scott Christy came to see if we were serious about audio. Me and my future partners took them to dinner and brought them to check out my one friend's system. He had double 901s, one pair facing the wall and the other pair facing forward. He was powering everything with two Crown D300s and matching IC150 preamp with a Thorens TD125 table and SME 3009, I think. He was going to dental school while working at the stereo shop part time. Arnie thought we were serious about audio and the store got the franchise and became a very successful Infinity dealer. But he suggested that my friend get the Infinity Servo-Static speakers and some Audio Research gear. All three of us were hooked from that moment on, but I can still remember those 901's rocking Jethro Tull in his small basement apartment.
  • maxward
    maxward Posts: 1,580
    And they (901s) didn’t image well in the vintage sense of the term either, when I first heard them decades ago.
  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,111
    Insightful contributions, and cool and interesting stories.

    Do you guys recall anything imaging well in the earlier days? Past a phantom center, I mean?

    I'm too new to refined audio to know. When I was growing up and in my earlier adult years, it was just about loudness, bass, and limiting distortion. No one I knew had any decent gear or peoperly set up spaces.

    Trey, I remember seeing a similar demo at a Bose store when I was a kid. They play the demo, then removed various props to reveal components. Back then it was the cube satellites and the Acoustimass sub, I believe. I thought it was pretty cool.
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  • maxward
    maxward Posts: 1,580
    Rectilinear 3As, Dahlquist DQ 10s, ARs, Advents, etc. could all do a reasonable job at the time, properly set up, of course. As in not facing each other across a concrete block college dorm room inhabited by a dude who had the first Dynaco electronics I’d laid eyes on, all kit built.
  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,140
    I haven't seen the Bose 1800 amp mentioned yet. I ran my pair of Polk 2.3s with that heavy old monster and I thought it was an excellent performer. Not bad to look at either with the dual rows of led's. Just be careful moving it as those exposed heat sinks would slice your hand open
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,549
    I remember Dave @westmassguy was particularly fond of his 901s. He had some kind of special edition, though I don't recall the specific model.
    Dave R.I.P. had the Bose 901 continental speakers. I believe the cabinet was different compared to the regular 901's. He OF COURSE hot rodded the snot out of the EQ module. Dave built a good career out of working on those, he knew his stuff.
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,523
    I recall experiencing a pair of 901s at high volume in off-base housing in England back in the early 1980s when I was a teenager. They left an impression.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,888
    edited November 20
    maxward wrote: »
    And they (901s) didn’t image well in the vintage sense of the term either, when I first heard them decades ago.

    rimshot! :D
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,888
    I haven't seen the Bose 1800 amp mentioned yet. I ran my pair of Polk 2.3s with that heavy old monster and I thought it was an excellent performer. Not bad to look at either with the dual rows of led's. Just be careful moving it as those exposed heat sinks would slice your hand open
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    The big Bose power amplifiers were very serious and capable pieces of hardware indeed.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,549
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    I haven't seen the Bose 1800 amp mentioned yet. I ran my pair of Polk 2.3s with that heavy old monster and I thought it was an excellent performer. Not bad to look at either with the dual rows of led's. Just be careful moving it as those exposed heat sinks would slice your hand open
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    The big Bose power amplifiers were very serious and capable pieces of hardware indeed.

    I had no idea they even made power amps!
  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,652
    Weren't the Bose amplifiers known to burn down houses iirc
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,652
    edited November 20
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    I remember Dave @westmassguy was particularly fond of his 901s. He had some kind of special edition, though I don't recall the specific model.
    Dave R.I.P. had the Bose 901 continental speakers. I believe the cabinet was different compared to the regular 901's. He OF COURSE hot rodded the snot out of the EQ module. Dave built a good career out of working on those, he knew his stuff.
    I picked up a pair of 901s on tulip stands & big **** Onkyo int amp & Adcom 545 amp from somewhere & I wasn't sure how to hook it up properly so I called David & he walked me thru it. They sounded pretty good. David He was a great guy. Did lots of speaker repair work for me even on other brand names. When I come here daily I still look to see if he is on. RIP David. I sure do miss him & BS'n with him about anything & everything for hours...

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  • gmcman
    gmcman Posts: 1,806
    This would be the point where @nooshinjohn really short circuits.... B)

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