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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 45,610
    edited March 2020
    Mercedes F1 is helping out with ventilators.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52087002
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,079
    F1nut wrote: »
    Still waiting for a single example of you helping someone with an audio related issue.

    Keep waiting Jesse......I have met a lot of great people on this forum and benefitted from their knowledge and generosity - and not strictly related to audio. And vice versa. If I gave one single care about your validation, it would be a colossal waste of time and an exercise in futility.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 45,610
    52 whiny posts and counting.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,079
    F1nut wrote: »
    52 whiny posts and counting.

    Jesse, here’s some good advice. Go to bed. You’ve proven that your childish commentary on my posts offer NOTHING and that you’ve failed to respond to what I have said with any semblance of intelligence. What’s next? “I’m rubber, you’re glue.....?” Predictable as always

    Rest well, you’ve learned enough lessons for one night. School is back in session tomorrow for you bud.

    PS- good on Mercedes! That’s relevant!!!
    Shawn
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 18,230
    I'm waiting for Lamborghini to get into the ventilator business that will be one sexy fast breathing machine.

    :D:D
  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,079
    For those arguing on this thread....

    You have a choice: swallow some pride, refrain from replying, and allow some good discussion to continue on the thread. Or you can continue to argue, contributing nothing to this topic or this forum, and achieve some imagined achievement of winning that most don't care about.

    Add something of value.

    You are absolutely correct.....from now on I am subscribing to the @verb program of posting positivity and staying away from the back and forth. I apologize to the forum for my role in the devolving of this thread. Plenty of good stories to focus on
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,290
    Click on this morning and 82 new posts, wow. Too bad only about 30 are worth something. Those trying to inspire getting knocked down by the usual doom and gloomers.

    How much more can we add or subtract from this conversation until it's all done with and we'll argue again over who was right/wrong. Maybe we should spend our time giving hope, and looking for a way to revitalize our economy minus the dependency on China. You know, those manufacturing jobs that are never coming back.

    Which will win out in the end, common sense solutions or greed ? In my opinion....greed still wins long term.
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,748
    Whitehouse task force member Deborah Birx has best case scenario of 100-200K American deaths. This is if we do everything correctly.

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    Tony said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,370
    Sounds much better than the "over 2 million" early figures.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,290
    steveinaz wrote: »
    Sounds much better than the "over 2 million" early figures.

    ...and the 20 million before that. Wait 2 weeks and it will be 50k. Bottom line is, they just don't know and are guessing.
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,079
    steveinaz wrote: »
    Sounds much better than the "over 2 million" early figures.

    I think all of the new projections obviously relate to the fact that social distancing is working. The hope is that the trajectory declines and that we continue to do things that "flatten the curve".
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,748
    edited March 2020
    ^^that was the crux of her estimate. Without social distancing the figures could be much more.
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    Other; M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.

    There are three things that give a man a false sense of courage, a keyboard, alcohol and a firearm.
    Motorhead, 4.12.20

    Tony said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there

    the substitution of politics for existence is the supreme betrayal of the subjective otherness of man.
  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 1,818
    edited March 2020
    Actually it was 480,000 previously and that was bad enough, according to those slides presented to the AHA. Here's the latest:

    US could see millions of coronavirus cases and 100,000 or more deaths, Fauci says

    The nation's top infectious disease expert said Sunday that based on models, the United States could eventually see 100,000 or more deaths from the novel coronavirus, which has already claimed more than 2,000 American lives as cases surge across the US.

    "Whenever the models come in, they give a worst-case scenario and a best-case scenario. Generally, the reality is somewhere in the middle. I've never seen a model of the diseases that I've dealt with where the worst case actually came out. They always overshoot," Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House's coronavirus task force, told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union."............................(see article for rest)

    https://www.albanyherald.com/cnn/cnn_politics/us-could-see-millions-of-coronavirus-cases-and-or-more/article_f3998a29-232c-580b-a4c8-7b2a8923b225.html
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 7,747
    edited March 2020
    @tonyb
    Wrong again.

    No one said 20m deaths. Fact check yourself.

    The deaths were 480,000 predicted compared to your flu of 34,000.

    With social distancing and shut downs, maybe we can get to 100,000.

    But it still isn’t worse than the flu.

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 7,747
    tonyb wrote: »
    steveinaz wrote: »
    Sounds much better than the "over 2 million" early figures.

    ...and the 20 million before that. Wait 2 weeks and it will be 50k. Bottom line is, they just don't know and are guessing.

    See above post
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
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    Digital: Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs TSDx/Bluesound Node 2 -> Emm Labs DAC2x
    Analog: VPI Avenger Reference w/ Rim Drive w/ ADS + 12" Fatboy Dual Pivot + Lyra Etna
    + Audio Research Reference 40th Anniversary -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers + JL Audio F113v2 x2
    Secondary:
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Tertiary:
    Oppo 105D -> Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2


    Main speakers system evolution over the years:
    Klipsch Promedia 4.1 -> Axiom M22ti -> Sonus Faber Concertino -> Sonus Faber Concerto -> Polk LSi7 -> Polk LSi9 -> Martin Logan Mosaic -> AV123 Onix Ref 1 -> Martin Logan Vantage -> AV123 Strata Mini -> Martin Logan Summit -> Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor -> BW 802D2 -> Sonus Faber Stradivari -> Rockport Avior -> BW 802D3 -> BW 800D3 -> ???

    Old Gear:
    Speakers:
    BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source:
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    Preamplification:
    Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased) -> ARC 5se -> ARC Ref 40th Anniversary
    Amplification:
    HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer:
    Infinity Entra2 -> SVS 25-31PCi -> SVS 25-31PC+ -> Dual JL Audio F113v2
  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 1,818
    George / NJ

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,290
    Jesus H Christ Joey, many outlets were predicting tens of millions dead in the early stages.

    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615358/worst-case-coronavirus-scenario-214-million-americans-infected-17-million-dead/

    That's just one. 50 MILLION WORLD WIDE was another thrown out number. They throw out these numbers as possible worse case scenarios to scare people. Rarely do they throw out best case scenarios though. They keep saying these crazy numbers but they are just guesses made with computer models. Which those same computer models worked out so well for climate change predictions too. :o:)

    Nobody knows....nobody.

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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 4,367
    edited March 2020
  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 4,522
    F1nut wrote: »
    Mercedes F1 is helping out with ventilators.
    Mercedes F1 is not building ventilators, although ventilators are also mentioned in the article as part of a separate effort.

    Mercedes F1 to Make Breathing Aid:
    A breathing aid that can help keep coronavirus patients out of intensive care has been created in under a week.

    University College London engineers worked with clinicians at UCLH and Mercedes Formula One to build the device, which delivers oxygen to the lungs without needing a ventilator.

    Continuous Positive Airway Pressure (CPAP) devices are already used in hospitals but are in short supply.

    China and Italy used them to help Covid-19 patients.

    Ventilators:
    Meanwhile a consortium of UK industrial, technology and engineering businesses in the UK has come together to produce medical ventilators for the NHS.

    The "VentilatorChallengeUK" consortium includes Airbus, BAE Systems, Ford, Rolls-Royce and Siemens.

    Production is due to begin next week.
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 4,522
    tonyb wrote: »
    Jesus H Christ Joey, many outlets were predicting tens of millions dead in the early stages.

    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615358/worst-case-coronavirus-scenario-214-million-americans-infected-17-million-dead/

    From that article:
    According the Times, the CDC projected that 2.4 million to 21 million people in the US could end up in the hospital, overwhelming emergency wards and ICUs. The number of deaths in some models ranged from 200,000 to 1.7 million.

    Regardless, the models did not change. The higher numbers would have meant doing nothing. We are doing a lot more than nothing now.
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  • ADJ
    ADJ Posts: 42
    tonyb wrote: »
    Jesus H Christ Joey, many outlets were predicting tens of millions dead in the early stages.

    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615358/worst-case-coronavirus-scenario-214-million-americans-infected-17-million-dead/

    That's just one. 50 MILLION WORLD WIDE was another thrown out number. They throw out these numbers as possible worse case scenarios to scare people. Rarely do they throw out best case scenarios though. They keep saying these crazy numbers but they are just guesses made with computer models. Which those same computer models worked out so well for climate change predictions too. :o:)

    Nobody knows....nobody.

    You missed a decimal point there. Their worst case scenario ranged from 200,000 to 1.7 million. Bad enough but far from "tens of millions." They also said that those models were based on what would happen if no action was taken to slow the spread of the virus.

    The good news is that the efforts that have been taken do seem to be effective in slowing the spread. But you are right "Nobody knows....nobody" we will never know if it would have been much worse or not much different.
  • ADJ
    ADJ Posts: 42
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    Didn't even realize this is a thing until I saw a Facebook post. Thank you for all you do!
  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 1,818
    I've been saying this all along. When all is said and done it will probably be seen to be another way officials have s*cr*ew*ed the pooch on this:

    The official recommendation in the United States (and other Western countries) that the public should not wear face masks was motivated by the need to save respirator masks for health care workers. There is no scientific support for the statement that masks worn by non-professionals are “not effective”. In contrary, in view of the stated goal to “flatten the curve”, any additional, however partial reduction of transmission would be welcome — even that afforded by the simple surgical masks or home-made (DIY) masks (which would not exacerbate the supply problem). The latest biological findings on SARS-Cov-2 viral entry into human tissue and sneeze/cough-droplet ballistics suggest that the major transmission mechanism is not via the fine aerosols but large droplets, and thus, warrant the wearing of surgical masks by everyone. ..........see article for the rest


    https://medium.com/@Cancerwarrior/covid-19-why-we-should-all-wear-masks-there-is-new-scientific-rationale-280e08ceee71
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,286
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-epidemic/uk-epidemic-is-slowing-and-antibody-test-could-be-ready-in-days-top-epidemiologist-says-idUSKBN21H0SA

    I hope these antibody tests get out there sooner than later so you all can see how long it's been here, how many infections are actually here, how much China has lied about the "Chinese Wuhan Virus" and we can put all this panicky absurdity behind us.

    Meanwhile, stay home if you don't have to go out and stay away from groups. Even though the virus has been out there since at least October of last year, that doesn't mean that current isolation measures won't still work.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 14,448
    https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/thousands-of-hikers-crowd-georgia-trails-as-surrounding-states-close-parks?fbclid=IwAR1jtLpZKItoZrBOGUOkwITbu7-bNiYLRViIxY4Tu8vWGq2iueBhvzQOfGo

    ....and it's idiots like this that will help to keep our country closed even longer. Do they not have a collective brain between all of them?

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