Are these B&W speakers and receiver worth 500?

Tony MTony M Posts: 6,875
edited January 9 in The Clubhouse
I have a chance to aquire these. Anybody hear how they sound. I haven't researched them yet. I have to find the model out first.
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Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,875
    edited January 9
    Well, I found out their model and I found a review of them. Great review too. Now to decide!!!
    They're the DM603 series 3 version.

    This link says 805bw but it is for the DM603 series3 speakers I'm looking to buy.
    https://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/805bw/index.html

    Here's the center on eBay.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bowers-Wilkins-B-W-LCR600-S3-Center-Speaker-150W-NICE/192764967850?hash=item2ce1affbaa:g:Uq0AAOSw8PJcG7Nv:rk:18:pf:0

    And the towers. Canuck audio. lasted one day...sold. 640.00 CAD.
    https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649206987-bampw-bowers-and-wilkins-dm-603-s3-speakers-sorrento/
    Post edited by Tony M on
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,875
    Well I found a ton of reviews ( there's a 100+ on the web ) and they're all super positive. B) ;) ..BUT...these speakers are going on close to being 20 years old.

    One reviewer said they were 1K a pair. Stereophile.

    Another said they were 2K a speaker...I don't think so! :s

    I might ask for a big discount. :#
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • JayMXJayMX Posts: 142
    I really love my 20 year old DM604’s (one mid, two woofers). Those are much prettier than mine though!
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    Downstairs 7.2.4:
    Marantz SR6011, L/R B&W DM604, Center - RBH 700-CX, Surrounds - Monitor 5a (Peerless), Surround Back - Monitor 4a (Peerless), Height/Atmos - (4x) Polk RC60i, Sub#1 - JBL 12” frankespeaker, Sub#2 - Klipsch RSW12, Oppo BDP-95

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  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,721
    Are you buying them?
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    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
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    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,875
    Not yet.

    I was doing email tag with the guy. He takes a day to answer. He emailed me pictures tonight. It was way too late for me to do research and get back to him. I had planned on calling him in the morning since I've seen the speakers and receiver from his pictures now. He wouldn't tell me the model. I did enough research to feel I'm interested but it's up to him to see if he'll discount the price for me. I didn't know they were almost 20 years old. Heck, I didn't know WHAT they were for 36 hours. :D

    Why do you ask?
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,875
    edited January 9
    Going to bed now. good night. zzzzzzzZZZZZ
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,397
    Why is 20 year old speakers an issue for you ? SDA'S are older, and command a good buck still. My LEGACY 20/20's were that old, and they still sell for a good buck.

    It's not necessarily age, but how well a speaker is taken care of, quality, and of course sound, that would dictate a decent price.
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  • WillowWillow Posts: 9,238
    Regardless what others say, I really like my 703s. It took a while to get to know them in terms of placement. They are about 8 ft apart and about 18" away from the back wall and 36" from side walls. I've had to really understand Audyssey and mic placements. Anyway all this to say I find mine to be the best speakers I have heard in a very long time.
    2Ch- B&W 703, SVS PB10 NSD, Marantz NR1607, Parasound 1500a, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (Yellow) with Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono pre, MIT AVT 2 speaker cables, MIT AVT 1 and AVT 2 ICs, XLO Jumpers, Tributaries Optical, Signal Cable Magic Power Cables x3, Samsung 55JS7000, Harmony 1100, Sony BDP-S6200, Rotel RDV 1045 (as Transport), Cambridge Audio DAC Magic100, Monster 3600MKII, Android Mi Box3 and Apple TV. - Pool /Gazebo Yamaha RX-A1010, Polk Patio 25x4, Marantz DV 4200 (as CDP) MIT AVT3 ICs - Work - Spotify Premium or Neutron App to my FiiO Kunlun into my Grado SR125e

  • oldrockeroldrocker Posts: 2,021
    No idea on the price. Pics look good.

    FWIW, I have a 30+ year old set of DM4's, are not really comparable to those but occasionally I'll pull them out, put them on an old SX780 and they sound really good.

    Then again I'm a vintage guy who's easily impressed... :D
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,875
    Thanks for the replies guys. :)

    Haven't I read on here that you're supposed to recap speakers that are 20 years old?
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,167
    You don't have to do anything, but electronics that have 20yr old caps could probably use a refurb. There's better quality caps now days.

    The question would actually be, "do you like the sound enough to spend the time and money"
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 20,046
    edited January 9
    Tony M wrote: »
    Thanks for the replies guys. :)

    Haven't I read on here that you're supposed to recap speakers that are 20 years old?

    Depends on the capacitors used originally.
    If they were oil-filled (e.g., the early AR acoustic suspension loudspeakers), they're typically good forever (to a good approximation) and, in most cases, sonically superb.

    If they are 20 year old NP nonpolarized electrolytics (that were junky even when new, and used primarily to control costs), then the loudspeakers'll almost certainly benefit from refreshing -- even with modern NP electrolytics! :)

    That said, above all else, always remember:

    all generalizations are false, including this one.

    B)
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,875
    Well, he gave me a 100 discount and will deliver the system to me.

    I told him I will think about it today and maybe tomorrow too.

    It would be 400.00 now if I say yes. :p

    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,480
    I picked up a pair of DM601 S3 (basically the bookshelf version of these) for my daughter a couple years ago. Paired with a nice Kenwood TT and a Carver receiver, they sound very good. Are these worth $400? That is subjective. I think I paid under $100 for the 601s and felt it was a very good deal for the sound. These are the bigger model, include a center, and a fairly beefy AVR and CD changer. Easily $100+ in extras. So, I'd think its a good price. Go for it!

    Based on this sold eBay auction, I'd say $400 is a great deal...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/B-W-BOWERS-AND-WILKINS-DM603-S3-FLOORSTANDING-SPEAKERS/163328329643?hash=item26072087ab:g:93AAAOSwds9b0KPa
  • ZLTFULZLTFUL Posts: 4,750
    I also had a pair of the DM601S3s and loved them.
    I left them with an ex since I had built a wall unit for the TV and the speaker openings were based on those dimensions.

    Sorry for the stupid Photobucket watermarks...

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  • Mr. SharpeMr. Sharpe Posts: 1,186
    If it’s b&w and they’re affordable I’d jump on any model floor standing speaker of theirs! Nice speakers he’s got there too, very pretty
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  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,721
    Willow wrote: »
    Regardless what others say, I really like my 703s. It took a while to get to know them in terms of placement. They are about 8 ft apart and about 18" away from the back wall and 36" from side walls. I've had to really understand Audyssey and mic placements. Anyway all this to say I find mine to be the best speakers I have heard in a very long time.
    Willow wrote: »
    Regardless what others say, I really like my 703s. It took a while to get to know them in terms of placement. They are about 8 ft apart and about 18" away from the back wall and 36" from side walls. I've had to really understand Audyssey and mic placements. Anyway all this to say I find mine to be the best speakers I have heard in a very long time.

    Do u have the original 703 or the new ones?
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,123
    I think they look real nice, look like they where taken care of and I have heard them plenty of times to speak on how they perform.
    I enjoy them for 2 channel and I also enjoy them in a 5.1 system with a pair of Leasure Monitors as surround speakers. I have done that exact system but with a Rotel Receiver. The Onkyo model of them where thin sounding so you may not like the way B&W and Onkyo go together. The Onkyo can make the 600 series sound a bit thin. but with a good quality receiver like a Rotel or a Pioneer Elite the DM's will shine and impress.
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  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 2,591
    I have a pair of the 601's that I use for things like testing a receiver or amp, something I don't care about damaging. The DM line was a lower level line that was introduced to big box stores. They have a very "hot" treble range.
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    Dual SVS SB2000
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  • WillowWillow Posts: 9,238
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Willow wrote: »
    Regardless what others say, I really like my 703s. It took a while to get to know them in terms of placement. They are about 8 ft apart and about 18" away from the back wall and 36" from side walls. I've had to really understand Audyssey and mic placements. Anyway all this to say I find mine to be the best speakers I have heard in a very long time.
    Willow wrote: »
    Regardless what others say, I really like my 703s. It took a while to get to know them in terms of placement. They are about 8 ft apart and about 18" away from the back wall and 36" from side walls. I've had to really understand Audyssey and mic placements. Anyway all this to say I find mine to be the best speakers I have heard in a very long time.

    Do u have the original 703 or the new ones?

    The original ones.
    2Ch- B&W 703, SVS PB10 NSD, Marantz NR1607, Parasound 1500a, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (Yellow) with Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono pre, MIT AVT 2 speaker cables, MIT AVT 1 and AVT 2 ICs, XLO Jumpers, Tributaries Optical, Signal Cable Magic Power Cables x3, Samsung 55JS7000, Harmony 1100, Sony BDP-S6200, Rotel RDV 1045 (as Transport), Cambridge Audio DAC Magic100, Monster 3600MKII, Android Mi Box3 and Apple TV. - Pool /Gazebo Yamaha RX-A1010, Polk Patio 25x4, Marantz DV 4200 (as CDP) MIT AVT3 ICs - Work - Spotify Premium or Neutron App to my FiiO Kunlun into my Grado SR125e

  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,875
    Thanks guys. ;)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,875
    I've held on to my 400.00. :|

    I just have a 50/50 want for these now. I certainly don't need another Onkyo receiver and CD changer. But I would've taken it if he'd have just come down some more. I bet they sound great though.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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