Anybody running a Denon 3802, Rti12's & Outlaw m-blocks?

trend1

I just purchased the RTi12 for my Denon 3802 and I'm thinking about getting a pair of Outlaw Monoblock power amp. If you have this setup did going from 110w to the 200w the m-block produced make a big difference in sound of the RTi12's? Or do I need more watts??

Thanks for any help!

Tony

marcpam

I would like to know also

PolkWannabie

The 12's need a fair amount of power to fully open up without clipping especially at higher volumes and lower frequencies.

If you play it loud you'll notice what I would call a substantial difference at every doubling of power i.e. from 100 to 200 wpc and 200 to 400.

Beyond that most receivers tend to be rated on the high side and most amps tend to rated on the low side.

nemos2

Trend1,

Just wanted to throw my $0.02 in here. Although I am not running your speakers, I am running the LSi15's, and an outlaw 755. I moved from a Denon to the outlaw. After the move to the outlaw, the LSi's had a lot more depth to them, and overall the sound was improved.

I guess what I am saying is that I do think that the upgrade would be worth while upgrade. THe outlaws ( as I am sure that you have noticed) are a great bunch of guys, and really stand behind their product. I have had no issues with my out law amp, and love it.

I say go for it, get the mono blocks.

nemos2

trend1

nemos2, Depth is what I'm looking for and I really don't hear that playing some music on my 110 watt Denon. DVD Movies sound great but for some reason my music CD's are on the bright side. I guess if I don't hear an improvement I can always send the the blocks back.

Thanks!

PolkWannabie

The other thing I'll add here is that it does take awhile for the 12's tweeters to smooth out ...

trend1

PolkWannabie, How long do think it will for my tweeters to smooth out?

Tony

PolkWannabie

When I auditioned a set of 12's they were well broken in and sounded fine to me ... When I got a set new I was surprised at how much sibilance there was. Mine evened out after 30-50 hours of fairly constant play at low to mid level volume. After initial set up and listening I just left them on for a weekend. Sometime during that period of time they evened out. Following that I added a fairly powerful amp which helped both the low and high ends.

trend1

Thanks PolkWannabie! I only have about 3 hours of playtime on my 12's. How powerful and what brand is your amp?

Tony

RVJII

I am running an Onkyo that specs out pretty much the same as the Denon 3802. After about 2 months I decided to add the M-Blocks and they did make a noticable difference. (deeper bass and more "depth") I should point out that I added them probably about the same time that I had finally broken the speakers in so that might have had something to do with the improvement as well. The only other thing that I considered was getting an Adcom GFA 555 or 555 II from Audiogon but I ultimately decided that I prefered new equipment over used.

Outlaw has a great return policy though so if you get them and don't think that it is worth it you can always return them. I don't think that you can really go wrong by giving them a try.

I'd be curious to hear your experience vs. mine since you have much less time on those 12's.

PolkWannabie

Originally posted by trend1
Thanks PolkWannabie! I only have about 3 hours of playtime on my 12's. How powerful and what brand is your amp?

Tony

For HT I initially was running just an Onkyo TX-NR801, now running Sunfire GC II Sigs @ 425 wpc and I have the 12's biamped.

Snoopdog

Originally posted by trend1
I just purchased the RTi12 for my Denon 3802 and I'm thinking about getting a pair of Outlaw Monoblock power amp.

I'd just add that rather than picking up a pair, grab 4, 2 for each speaker.

I have the rti150s, which are similarly power hungry. I drive them with a pro audio 500 watt/channel amp. And THAT amp will clip if I try to run too loud. (We're talking LOUD.)

But at more sane volume levels, the extra headroom makes a big difference in bass response.

I don't recommend the pro audio amp route because they are a bit of a hassle setup wise, and you really need a way to isolate the amp (due to high fan noise) from the listening area. But they are a cost effective source of BIG clean power.