New amp for my 2.3's

trav0810
trav0810 Posts: 1,056
edited August 2013 in 2 Channel Audio
I am looking at amps for my 2.3 TL's. The first is an Adcom 5500, the other is a Tannoy SR840. I am familiar with Adcom gear, but not the Tannoy. There is a significant price difference between the two, does anyone have any experience with the Tannoy?
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    Another member dumped his Thresholds for a Crown XLS Drive Core:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?147186-Don-t-overlook-the-Crown-XLS-Series-for-powering-big-SDAs-!&highlight=Crown
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,686
    edited August 2013
    Habanero Monk wrote: »
    Another member dumped his Thresholds for a Crown XLS Drive Core:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?147186-Don-t-overlook-the-Crown-XLS-Series-for-powering-big-SDAs-!&highlight=Crown

    He says they were Nakamichi PA7's, which he also had sitting on top of his subs. Now, I don't know about you, but taking advice from someone that doesn't know placing amps on top of subs is a very bad idea certainly seems like a very bad idea.
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  • Malbec
    Malbec Posts: 558
    edited August 2013
    You can strap the ground terminals on the GFA-5500 and you're set. No need for a AI-1 if you dont have one.
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    He says they were Nakamichi PA7's, which he also had sitting on top of his subs. Now, I don't know about you, but taking advice from someone that doesn't know placing amps on top of subs is a very bad idea certainly seems like a very bad idea.

    The OP can read the thread. It will also point him to some other sites where the Crown has some long discussion threads and hopefully have enough information.

    Then again a 30 day trial is only a Guitar Center Away.

    And some due diligence http://bit.ly/11xfn4y
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  • trav0810
    trav0810 Posts: 1,056
    edited August 2013
    I remember reading that thread a while back. I guess it is 30 days risk free from Guitar center should I decide to go that route. But right now, this Tannoy has my interest, but it doesn't seem to be very common, not a lot of user testimonials or reviews.
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    trav0810 wrote: »
    I remember reading that thread a while back. I guess it is 30 days risk free from Guitar center should I decide to go that route. But right now, this Tannoy has my interest, but it doesn't seem to be very common, not a lot of user testimonials or reviews.

    Well with it not being very common, not much in reviews, used and no ability to try it. Well I guess I don't get the allure.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,686
    edited August 2013
    And some due diligence

    I remember when the latest giant killer was the $59.00 Toshiba DVD player. Oh yeah, lots of glowing Internet talk/reviews about that one. The reality was it sounded like poo nuggets and good luck finding one today that still works.

    I'm always amazed at the gullibility of folks that keep falling for the latest gaint killer when time has proven again and again that they don't exist.

    Due diligence, indeed.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • trav0810
    trav0810 Posts: 1,056
    edited August 2013
    I am not at all concerned about the amps condition or functionality. It's coming from a friend and I'll get to hear it before picking it up. But i will be hearing it with HIS system. I like to check here to see if anyone has used it before, particularly with SDA's. You know him well important system synergy is!
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    I remember when the latest giant killer was the $59.00 Toshiba DVD player. Oh yeah, lots of glowing Internet talk/reviews about that one. The reality was it sounded like poo nuggets and good luck finding one today that still works.

    I'm always amazed at the gullibility of folks that keep falling for the latest gaint killer when time has proven again and again that they don't exist.

    Due diligence, indeed.

    Who said anything about Giant Killer? I went the used route on amps and had some issues and decided to:

    1. Go new
    2. Purchase from an outfit that allowed hassle free returns

    I hope he likes the Tannoy but with out there being much out there vs Adcom/Rotel/Parasound it simply wouldn't be for me. The OP asked and I, just like you, gave an opinion.

    I would suggest if he can get the Crown or comparable at the same time that he is going to demo the Tannoy (even if not on his own speakers). Nothing wrong with that. Like was pointed out earlier "all about trying something out of the norm".
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  • trav0810
    trav0810 Posts: 1,056
    edited August 2013
    :eek: Ummm...Tannoy. It seems that Tannoy bought a company called Tresham and this is a rebranded Tresham DR302. So...anyone have any experience with the Tresham?
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  • trav0810
    trav0810 Posts: 1,056
    edited August 2013
    tannoyamp5.jpg


    Here's a nice gut shot!
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    Actually, the OP asked for opinions on a specific amp...the Tannoy. You interceded with an unrelated product and an attempt to bash the Tannoy

    Are you being purposefully obtuse? Has the fact escaped you that there isn't much out there on that Tannoy? Certainly no one here has experience on it so far.

    In light of the OP not being able to get input about a specific amp I did indeed make another suggestion based on a like user here that has SDA speakers. This is part and parcel what these boards are about.

    The OP should get the Tannoy and sell it if they don't like. Because while you're hear to argue, I'm here to try to give some food for thought. Certainly not saying my way is the highway. Nothing I have done has harmed the OP in any way and he can certainly pick up the Tannoy with or with out input.

    Again with out a lot of information from other users on it I, personally, would steer clear if it wasn't a situation that I could get my $$ back out of it. To each their own.
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    At lease the one amp mentioned in this thread out of the box is common ground for the SDA's. You are purposefully picking a fight where none need be picked.

    Yes the OP asked for SPECIFIC information on a SPECIFIC item. I've yet to see the initial request fulfilled. In the absence of any information from actual users an alternate, that is common ground also used by another member here that the OP can go and ask questions of, was suggested.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,686
    edited August 2013
    trav0810, it appears to be a basic old school design amp with the large caps. The newer designs use a lot of smaller caps, which results in greater speed/pace. You state there is a significant price difference between the two, is the Tannoy is the cheaper one?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    I also have begun to notice that the *only* time you post is to pick a fight or tout your own amp. Funny how few people actually want to hear what you have to say and yet *you* continue to yapp yourself.

    'Tout your own amp'? What amp would that be? What touting? Be specific. Point out any/all effusive words and prose that I've posted. The OP asked for review/information on the Tannoy. None, zero, zilch have been forthcoming. Even a quick Google hasn't returned anything for the OP. I think it was more than reasonable to posit a 3rd alternative. One already documented by a fellow forum member.

    Whatever way the OP goes I wish him the best and hope it sounds terrific.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,686
    edited August 2013
    Give it up Monk, you're not fooling anyone, but yourself.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Give it up Monk, you're not fooling anyone, but yourself.

    ?? Claims where made. Just asking to see if ZLTFUL is a liar or if I am. The OP should get the Adcom IMO given that Tannoy is Circa 1984. Who knows how serviceable it is if it needs it. Are the caps even still wet? Maybe you should give it up.

    I wonder: When someone calls Polk Sales asking about Polk Speaker X or Polk Speaker Y for an application do you think that may be they are suggested Polk Speaker Z?

    I find people that are morally compromised don't have spine to back it up. I look forward to ZLTFUL backing up his claim.
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    DSkip wrote: »
    Why are you still here? What I mean is, how do the mods still let you in here with posts like that?

    Posts like what? You mean where I challenge a claim about me 'touting' something.

    So ZLTFUL can say "some weirdo waving his weiner"

    Then lies about what I say and it is asked of them to simply substantiate a claim? And I need the banning? If someone makes a claim that is an untruth. Won't substantiate it. Then yes there is a spine missing.
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  • trav0810
    trav0810 Posts: 1,056
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    trav0810, it appears to be a basic old school design amp with the large caps. The newer designs use a lot of smaller caps, which results in greater speed/pace. You state there is a significant price difference between the two, is the Tannoy is the cheaper one?

    No, the Tannoy is significantly higher.
    The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits.” -Albert Einstein

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  • trav0810
    trav0810 Posts: 1,056
    edited August 2013
    Monk, the Crown is something I have considered before, but never pulled the trigger since my prior experience with prior experience with pro amps has been less than stellar. It would be different if I had a Guitar Center locally, but I do not.

    Common Ground is not a big issue with the amp, I'll buy an A-1 if needed. I might use a single amp. I might buy 2 of the Adcoms and vertically biamp...who knows?
    The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits.” -Albert Einstein

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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2339569

    Here you go. Take your pick. In almost every example there, you either tout how great your amp is, how bad some other brand is or only slightly veiled hints at someone's ignorance because they didn't follow your lead.

    More substance and less Weiner waving there Holmes.

    Link doesn't work ;)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,686
    edited August 2013
    Habanero Monk wrote: »
    'Tout your own amp'? What amp would that be? What touting? Be specific.

    Everyone knows what amp you own, so this....
    I would suggest if he can get the Crown

    and this.....
    It will also point him to some other sites where the Crown has some long discussion threads and hopefully have enough information.

    Then again a 30 day trial is only a Guitar Center Away.

    .....would be touting your amp.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    Actually I said:
    Habanero Monk wrote: »
    I would suggest if he can get the Crown or comparable

    Notice the "or comparable". Nice try on quoting out of context. It's what people like you do when they are losing their argument.

    Also there are other Sites where the Crown has some long discussion threads. It's true. I'm certainly not making any endorsement. If there were sites that had some long threads on the Tannoy I would gladly post it for the OP. There is one thread on the Crown XLS 402D at AVSForum that is almost 5000 posts long:eek: And the guy that started it is using Polk LSi 9's.

    The great thing about GC is they carry from a bunch of different manufactures from $199 to $10,000 +.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,686
    edited August 2013
    Dude, you lost this discussion from the get-go, but hey keep digging, I'm sure China isn't far by now.

    Oh yeah, since you brought it up, you are the liar.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    DSkip wrote: »
    Literally laugh out loud funny. Hey, I'm a walking endorsement for Usher, but even I have the sense to admit it.

    The funny thing is finding people that make claims that they simply have zero ability (without editing when quoting) or chance of actually backing up.

    F1 you are the liar. You're own feeble attempt in misquoting me just to fabricate I'm some sort of Crown fanboi is now on public display. The first step to getting out of a hole is to stop digging there Ace :wink:

    The fact is I simply cross linked to another PF thread of an SDA user and an amp they are using. It did happen to be Crown. Funny enough that thread was locked due to the regulars here.
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Everyone knows what amp you own, so this....


    Again: What amp do I own? You are so out of sync with what is written vs what you think you read it's hilarious. The hallucinogenic mind is a powerful (and error prone) thing.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,686
    edited August 2013
    You are a pro amp fanboi, be it Crown, Yamaha or whatever it makes no difference. Seems everyone but you realizes that.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    You are a pro amp fanboi, be it Crown, Yamaha or whatever it makes no difference. Seems everyone but you realizes that.

    LOL. You guys can throw as much paint at a canvas as you want. A Picasso you aren't going to make :wink:

    Can't even backup a single accusation. Pretty pathetic.

    You guys blew up this thread, you blow up Emotiva threads, Cobramatteo's SDA SRS thread...

    Just like Face said: It doesn't make you a snob, just inexperienced, that's all.
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,331
    edited August 2013
    You guys have totally mucked up his thread but it's all good. I need an amp for my 2.3's too.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,686
    edited August 2013
    The fact that you are a pro amp fanboi is plastered all over this forum. The fact that you can't admit that, the fact that you can't admit it was you that went off topic with your unsolicited suggestion and the fact that you are the one without experience speaks volumes to your character.

    Here's a suggestion for you. When you have 3 guys in a thread stating that you are the problem, you should take that to heart and the next time consider that fact before hitting the keyboard. Let me say it again, you are the problem.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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