What glue to use on SDA-2B's side panels?

Mystery
Mystery Posts: 2,546
edited January 2013 in Vintage Speakers
Side panel on my SDA-2B's are little bit un-glued on top and some corners.
Is Elmer's wood glue is good option?
I also have another brand's 'Stronger than wood' glue.
Or should I use hot glue?
Thanks for suggestions.

Klipsch RB81, KG3.5, B&W DM602.5, Polk.
Subwoofers: Klipsch RW10, Triad ProSub Bronze.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited January 2013
    Get a good cabinet makers glue.u will most likely need a couple clamps however if they are "split" while the glue set up and cures.
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  • michael1947
    michael1947 Posts: 775
    edited January 2013
    Tightbond in any formula or Elmers carpenters glue, if split then clamp, if veneer is peeling work glue underneath with a tooth pick and tape veneer down over the right angle edges with blue tape, if veneer bubbling in center then split bubble with razor glue it with tooth pick cover with waxed paper and weight it down. Do not use hot glue, post photos of damage if possible. :cry:
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited January 2013
    I used Elmer's wood glue you don't want to glue them super strong in case you decide to redo them later.
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited January 2013
    Thanks for suggestions.

    It's not split.
    It just came un-glued on top and some sides.
    Here is a pic of what I'm talking about:

    Polk SDA-2B Side Panel-small.jpg

    Klipsch RB81, KG3.5, B&W DM602.5, Polk.
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  • michael1947
    michael1947 Posts: 775
    edited January 2013
    I see and it look to be the fabric and then the fabric covered panel to the case of the speaker. Hot glue may now be my choice as it is usually removable and will stick to anything but it is very fast so be prepared with the little spring clamps for the fabric and once it sets do a dry run on clamping the repaired panel back onto the case. You may be able to turn the speaker on its side/back,use a little piece of wood and weight it down with a 12 pack or something.:razz:
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited January 2013
    My SDA1C were like that and the fabric was coming loose. I used regular old wood glue.
    I pulled the panel completly off with 4" wide putty knife ( slowly do not bend or tweak) glued the fabric back down used a bunch of binder clips to hold the fabric till dry then glued the panel back on and got some phone books for weight.
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited January 2013
    Thanks for suggestions.
    I'll see what is easy to do for them.

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  • proffitt
    proffitt Posts: 157
    edited January 2013
    I used Liquid Nails Heavy Duty Construction Adhesive... out of a caulk type gun. And LOTS of weight overnight. But my project was an extreme makeover in which the entire side panels, the fabric and the wood, both came off.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?138538-SDA-SRS-2-need-CPR-and-ICU-life-support

    If its releasing that easy, instead of trying to force a little bit of glue in at the top, and likely making a mess, can you remove the entire panel, scrape it clean of any old glue and glue it right with fresh glue all around? Otherwise you're going to end up with new glue on the top 10% and 25 year old glue on the other 90% that will fail...when?

    If you do think about this route, listen to Polkieman...he knows! Make sure you can get the entire panel off in one piece, without breaking it. Otherwise you'll be making a new panel out of new wood, covered, etc. Been there done that... added a few extras days I wasn't planning on. Pics of fiasco at link above.

    Good luck!
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited January 2013
    It's only unglued on top 1 foot or so and I think trying to take the panel off is too risky.
    I'll try to squeeze glue to as much surface as I can so that top portion sticks to the cabinet.
    Bottom part is solid and I'll do more harm prying it off. :confused:

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  • proffitt
    proffitt Posts: 157
    edited January 2013
    Yes, the panels break pretty easy coming off. Don't chance it if its not coming off in multiple places.

    When gluing just a portion then, it'd be a shame to get glue on the fabric. I'd insert the edge of a large piece of paper (full width of panel) about an inch in between panel and speaker, and leave most of it hanging out, and fold it over the fabric. Then apply the glue behind the paper, so that the paper is shielding the fabric. Then take a piece of heavier stock paper (but still bendable) like a business card, and use it as a tool to force the glue as far down as you can. Then finally remove the paper barrier last before pressing together and apply LOTS of weight overnight. Good luck!
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited January 2013
    Yea get you a 12 thin plastic ruler hold it up a bit with a plastic putty knife or the kitchen spatula put glue on the ruler and side it in as far as you can then let it down as you pull the ruler out .
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    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
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    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited January 2013
    I have enough speakers to use as weight for pressing the panel.
    I knew too many speakers have some advantages. :lol:

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  • proffitt
    proffitt Posts: 157
    edited January 2013
    Haha... I knew there had to be another reason out there to justify getting more speakers! Wait until I tell her I need a few more pairs to use for weight.
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  • michael1947
    michael1947 Posts: 775
    edited January 2013
    Use blue tape to protect the fabric work quickly with the hot glue as it sets fast, just keep steady pressure on it for a minute or two. Wood glue can be runny and messy and almost never cleans completely out of fabric.
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited January 2013
    Harbor Freight has cheap clamps

    http://www.harborfreight.com/24-inch-bar-clamp-96213.html

    http://www.harborfreight.com/24-inch-ratchet-bar-clamp-spreader-46809.html
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,528
    edited January 2013
    Clamps come in handy for other things. If you don't have any, wouldn't hurt to pick some up. That said, the Harbor Freight clamps in that second link are junk. I had a number of them which I bought during one of their sales & most of them have broken. If you do get those, be sure not to try & tighten them super tight or the racheting mechanism will strip out & they'll no longer clamp tight. The Irwin Quick Grip versions of those are quality tools, but will set you back some.
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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,042
    edited January 2013
    +1 on the Irwin clamps. Have used these on my speakers and many other projects over the years.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • michael1947
    michael1947 Posts: 775
    edited January 2013
    DON'T BUY CHEAP TOOLS AS THEY WILL COMPROMISE YOUR WORK. :evil:
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