I think I found my 'end game' speaker

heiney9

ravaneli wrote: »

But the recording process, quality cannot be sacrificed there. There is no place for tubes of any kind, no vinyl, nothing like that.

You haven't s clue what you are talking about in respect to digital vs. analog and many, many recording consoles in top recording studios have extensively used and still use tube based mixing consoles.

You are just here to cause trouble because your assumptions are so irrational there is no other explaination. Or you got out of your padded cell, once again, and found the internet.

H9

heiney9

Rave-o-luni,

Here is some reading material.

http://www.studiomastering.net/e/EMI_REDD_series_recording_mixing_consoles.html

http://www.oceanwayrecording.com/about-history.php

I used GOOGLE and in 2-3 minutes came up with all kinds of recording history, past and present using tubes in the studio. All of the greatest music ever recorded used tubes consoles, tube microphones and tube tape machines.

I will say not everyone uses tubes today in the recording process because it's extremely cost prohibitive and you need to master the art of recording on those. Also that is what IS WRONG with much recorded music. Amatuers on their computers creating crappy sounding digital recordings. Horrible, horrible, talentless hacks.

The above links represent just a scratch of the surface.

You really should talk from a perspective of knowledge rather than from the hole in the center of gluteus maximus.

H9

BlueFox

And many recording studios, and other professionals, use Shunyata cables. Why? Because good cables make a big difference.
http://www.shunyata.com/Content/endorsements-Prof.html

"Grammy Winning Mastering Engineers James Guthrie and Doug Sax
The reputations of Mastering Engineers Doug Sax and James Guthrie are beyond reproach.

They are two of the most prolific and sought after mastering engineers in the recording industry, and their body of work is legendary.

Doug Sax's work includes recordings by James Taylor, Pink Floyd, Dire Straits, Alison Kraus, Diana Krall, Linda Ronstadt, Tom Waits, Aaron Neville, Chris Isaak, Ray Charles, Chet Atkins and countless others. James Guthrie's resume is no less impressive, having been credited with work on 6 Pink Floyd albums and dozens of popular recording artists.

James and Doug learned of Shunyata Research's products through David Gilmour's Astoria recording studio in the United Kingdom. After listening and recording with Shunyata Research products, both Guthrie and Sax were so impressed that they installed Shunyata products into their Sonoma digital mastering chain. Shunyata Research products were most recently utilized at Guthrie's Das Boot Studio for the re-master of Dark Side of the Moon on Sony's SACD format.

"As studio owners, we are regularly exposed to numerous 'quality enhancement products' and have naturally become cautious and very selective; you rarely achieve an audible improvement without somehow adversely affecting another element in the audio chain. We have been using Shunyata power cables at my studio for some time now. Careful placement of the cables has resulted in reduced distortion, improved clarity, better low level detail and richer 3-dimensional depth in the soundstage. The Anaconda PowerSnakes, for example, have transformed our Sonoma system, used during the mastering process for the new 5.1 mix of 'The Dark Side of The Moon'. I look forward to trying the Hydra AC distribution next. Highly recommended."
-- James Guthrie, Grammy award winning Producer/Engineer (Pink Floyd)"

BlueFox

BlueFox wrote: »

And many recording studios, and other professionals, use Shunyata cables. Why? Because good cables make a big difference.

I should have phrased this differently. While I am a Shunyata fanboy, the point I meant to make is that recording studios also use better cables since it does make a big, big difference in sound quality. Just as Raviole is wrong about vinyl, he is wrong about cables.

That's what happens when trying to quickly post while at work.

ravaneli wrote: »

By the way, everyone here should know that the prevailing opinions HERE do not represent AT ALL the prevailing opinion in circles that are actually qualified to make judgement, like Audio Engineering Society. You can find and read presentations of those guys. No tube bullsh1t will ever fly there, no power conditioners, no cables, no amp difference and in general nothing that can't be shown on paper.

If anything I find most of the members here severely misinformed of the opinions of actual people that have knowledge about these things.

wayne3burk

nooshinjohn wrote: »

I have found my endgame in the Big Magnepan MG-20.() series, though I cannot say it won't be fun to dip my toes into the SDA pool again someday. I cannot wait to hear SDA's with some tube power.

So them MG 20.(something)s really sound good? I've only heard good things about them, I probably should head to my nearest Magnaplaner dealer and give them a listen.

There is a mathematical formula for end-game speakers.... Your personal tastes / divided by your budget = your endgame speakers.

Happy listening

F1nut

Let's not forget two of the best in the business at getting the most out of what others completely hacked, Steve Hoffman and MoFi. Both use tube equipment in their remastering.

nooshinjohn

wayne3burk wrote: »

So them MG 20.(something)s really sound good? I've only heard good things about them, I probably should head to my nearest Magnaplaner dealer and give them a listen.

There is a mathematical formula for end-game speakers.... Your personal tastes / divided by your budget = your endgame speakers.

Happy listening

The big ribbons they use are among the best in the world. Now that I have some good tubes in my amps, they really come alive. The biggest improvement will come when I can set them up properly in a room of their own, but for now, given the confined setup I have, they are very, very good indeed.

AsSiMiLaTeD

Well, I've found a deal on a pair of these Wilson Duette I just can't pass up. I totally don't have gear worthy of running these yet, and very likely won't by the time these get here, but I guess I gotta start somewhere. They're in a dark red and look to be in perfect condition, and will be mine before Christmas.

Now it's time to get down to business with regards to other gear. The first two items on the list are a Pre with HT bypass and an amp to drive these with.

Face

Congrats!

tonyb

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-wilson-audio-duetts-series-i-bookshelf-2012-11-09-speakers-37211

Lookers for sure.

treitz3

Hello, AsSiMiLaTeD. I'm very happy and excited for you. Finding one's sonic bliss with regards to a speaker can be a long journey, I'm glad you found yours. Congratulations! I feel for you about the consistent thread derails and rude posts but don't let it bother you. Consider it like water off a ducks back. It sounds like Santa will be very nice to you this year. Enjoy.

Tom