Presence vs. Surrounds... RM8's and OWM3's

CzechM8
CzechM8 Posts: 16
edited February 2012 in Speakers
So I'm looking for some advice and thoughts on this topic...

Currently I have the RM8's as my Surrounds because of their "bi-directional" properties and I just got my OWM3's that I had planned to use as my Presence speakers. But, after unpacking the OWM3's and realizing their size (they are quite a bit more substantial than I expected) I am wondering if they should be my backs, with the RM8's as my presence speakers.

What do y'all think?

RM8's:

82-290-220-TS?$S300$

OWM3's:

82-290-026-02.jpg
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited February 2012
    When you say presence speakers, are you talking Yamaha's version or something like Audyssey DSX Height/Dolby Pro Logic IIz Height?
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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  • CzechM8
    CzechM8 Posts: 16
    edited February 2012
    kuntasensei wrote: »
    When you say presence speakers, are you talking Yamaha's version or something like Audyssey DSX Height/Dolby Pro Logic IIz Height?

    Yamaha RX-V665.... 90 watts a channel. And for full disclosure... Monitor 60's for my fronts, CS10 Center, and DSW PRO500 Sub...
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited February 2012
    The advice I normally give is this: Trying the speakers in both positions will cost you very little, and you can temporarily hang them up before you lock down placement.

    With my setup, I had speaker wire strewn across the room and the speakers very shakily hung up on nails before I locked down where I wanted everything. Sure, afterwards, I had to patch a few tiny holes and run the wires properly... but think of how much it would have cost me to screw it up and have to fix it later.

    So try them both ways. I'm not sure if Yamaha dictates direct radiators for the presence channels, but considering they're non-standard anyway, wouldn't hurt to try them. I know that Audyssey and Dolby both recommend direct radiators for their height channels, which are similarly placed.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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  • CzechM8
    CzechM8 Posts: 16
    edited February 2012
    kuntasensei wrote: »
    The advice I normally give is this: Trying the speakers in both positions will cost you very little, and you can temporarily hang them up before you lock down placement.

    With my setup, I had speaker wire strewn across the room and the speakers very shakily hung up on nails before I locked down where I wanted everything. Sure, afterwards, I had to patch a few tiny holes and run the wires properly... but think of how much it would have cost me to screw it up and have to fix it later.

    So try them both ways. I'm not sure if Yamaha dictates direct radiators for the presence channels, but considering they're non-standard anyway, wouldn't hurt to try them. I know that Audyssey and Dolby both recommend direct radiators for their height channels, which are similarly placed.

    Yeah, it wouldn't be much trouble for me to switch them out to either place for testing purposes... I have the same speaker mounts in each location so all the speakers will have the same attaching knob for the receptacles.

    And I need to check my AVR manual to find out if they recommend direct radiators for the presence channel.
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  • musicmikey
    musicmikey Posts: 6
    edited February 2012
    I have the new Pioneer SC57 receiver and there is no indication what type of speaker can be used for the height channel in Dolby pro logic IIz. Is the bookshelf better than the surround? I have all RTiA Polks with surrounds in the sides and rears.
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