New amp with minimal improvement

Toolfan66

For the record H9 I don't think your some sort of elitest, I understand what your saying as well and IMO I still think the the guys that came here in the past pushing the Emo Gear as the end all be all and it's better then Krell and Pass Labs attitude the view here would be better for the most part..

It will always be like a good cable thread...

bikezappa

Stilly74 wrote: »

I think some of you need to get a job or laid more often. All I did is ask a simple question that was answered in the first two responses. " recheck the settings in the reciever" done fixed. I never once asked for your big mouths to go off right away about I need to get cause its so much better. Take that crap somewhere else as its not helping at all with the question that was asked in here

Yes maybe they need a better job.
What happened is that you have expressed an opinion that goes opposite to some people on this forum.
These ideas and opinions are not tolerated by some.
Have fun listening to your music on your set up.

reeltrouble1

Seems about time to recall.

Nobody Likes their Baby called Ugly.

Enjoy your gear, nearly everybody who posts here has already spent considerable funds on audio compared to most and are ahead of the curve, now go spend more, eat less, die happy.

RT1

heiney9

reeltrouble1 wrote: »

now go spend more, eat less, die happy.

RT1

Now you're talking

SDA1C

Drenis wrote: »

What did I miss?!?!?!?!

Nothing....

kuntasensei

We all know there is better gear. But really, you guys don't have to feel the need to jump on every mention of Emotiva here as if the company personally pissed in your cornflakes. It really happens constantly around here... and is almost never the result of someone asking your opinion. I enjoy the threads from most of the people who chime in with constructive advice, but so much of this crap just seems like pointless brand-bashing, not to mention poo-pooing on a guy's substantial purchase (whether you agree with it or not). I understand that there's all manner of brand evangelism, but it really does seem like Emotiva is always the victim of "I know you didn't ask, but... that thing you just blew all your money on is garbage."

Just sayin'... If I ask you how to set up my Onkyo, that's not an invitation to tell me Onkyo sucks. The same should be true of Emotiva or any other brand. And some of you may think that goes without saying, but this forum has developed a reputation for unsolicited Emo-bashing, like it or not.

Drenis

SDA1C wrote: »

Nothing....

That's what I thought. Excellent.

nooshinjohn

kuntasensei wrote: »

We all know there is better gear. But really, you guys don't have to feel the need to jump on every mention of Emotiva here as if the company personally pissed in your cornflakes. It really happens constantly around here... and is almost never the result of someone asking your opinion.

They actually have pissed on a lot of cornflakes around here, or their owners have at least. I remember the coordinated attacks on this forum by their membership. One attack had multiple people joining here just to toss racial epithets and other vulgar crap that spammed up this forum for several days. Their goal was to force Polk to shut down this forum. I have nothing against the brand until the Emoettes start telling me that I wasted my money because I didn't drink their brand of Kool-aide.

It's almost as if they have their own pavillion down on Zucotti Park. Of course, I speak in generalities with that last statement, but the rep of the Emo owner has done more damage to the brand on this forum than the gear has IMHO.

polkfarmboy

nooshinjohn wrote: »

They actually have pissed on a lot of cornflakes around here, or their owners have at least. I remember the coordinated attacks on this forum by their membership. One attack had multiple people joining here just to toss racial epithets and other vulgar crap that spammed up this forum for several days. Their goal was to force Polk to shut down this forum. I have nothing against the brand until the Emoettes start telling me that I wasted my money because I didn't drink their brand of Kool-aide.

It's almost as if they have their own pavillion down on Zucotti Park. Of course, I speak in generalities with that last statement, but the rep of the Emo owner has done more damage to the brand on this forum than the gear has IMHO.

Blah Blah... The op does not want help anymore so why keep on stirring ?

nooshinjohn

polkfarmboy wrote: »

Blah Blah... The op does not want help anymore so why keep on stirring ?

Time to stop spending your nights chasing the sheep there PFB. They have laws against such things, unless you join the Army.:eek:

kuntasensei

I'm gonna buy an Emo now just to spite you all.

polkfarmboy

kuntasensei wrote: »

I'm gonna buy an Emo now just to spite you all.

I have a 4 channel Emotiva amp for sale if your interested :biggrin:

nooshinjohn

polkfarmboy wrote: »

I have a 4 channel Emotiva amp for sale if your interested :biggrin:

Nice amp... does it include new binding posts?

Toolfan66

I find it funny that the pro emo guys feed these threads just as much as the neg emo guys but the neg emo guys are the bad guys..


Did that make any sense? or should I just not post on meds??:redface:

FTGV

nooshinjohn wrote: »

One attack had multiple people joining here just to toss racial epithets and other vulgar crap that spammed up this forum for several days.

Who are you kidding?You eat those threads up and were likely leading the counter offensive with your typical juvenile barage.:rolleyes:

rebuy

Was it something I said? Really, take a chill pill and relax, I'm still laughing. :cheesygrin:

Stilly74

Wow did this question turn into something much different . Lots of good feed back on how people stand on things.

F1nut

kuntasensei wrote: »

We all know there is better gear.

That doesn't seem to be the case today. It use to be fairly common at CP for folks to strive for the better gear, then somewhere along the line it started to get dumbed down. Maybe it's just a cycle, I don't know, but I sure hope the quality of gear used by the folks here starts to rise again.

Just sayin'... If I ask you how to set up my Onkyo, that's not an invitation to tell me Onkyo sucks.

Wanna bet!?!

And some of you may think that goes without saying, but this forum has developed a reputation for unsolicited Emo-bashing, like it or not.

Someone has to tell the truth and steer the inexperienced in the right direction. I'm glad that at least some of us have the knowledge and wisdom to do so.

tonyb

Some here may go a tad far in brand bashing, but our intent is to inform, we do that alot around here. Sometimes this whole Emo thing is akin to driving a Ford Focus into a Ferrari dealers lot and bragging about how good it is. What do you think the response would be ? Emo gear is entry level, a budget brand ment for those first moving up from a receiver. Thats there nitch in the market place, nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't mean it's a piece of crap, but also doesn't mean they are giant killers for pennies on the dollar either.

Toolfan66

tonyb wrote: »

Some here may go a tad far in brand bashing, but our intent is to inform, we do that alot around here. Sometimes this whole Emo thing is akin to driving a Ford Focus into a Ferrari dealers lot and bragging about how good it is. What do you think the response would be ? Emo gear is entry level, a budget brand ment for those first moving up from a receiver. Thats there nitch in the market place, nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't mean it's a piece of crap, but also doesn't mean they are giant killers for pennies on the dollar either.

What Tonyb said^^^^^^

Stilly74

tonyb wrote: »

Some here may go a tad far in brand bashing, but our intent is to inform, we do that alot around here. Sometimes this whole Emo thing is akin to driving a Ford Focus into a Ferrari dealers lot and bragging about how good it is. What do you think the response would be ? Emo gear is entry level, a budget brand ment for those first moving up from a receiver. Thats there nitch in the market place, nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't mean it's a piece of crap, but also doesn't mean they are giant killers for pennies on the dollar either.

What makes Emo entry level??? Because it's cheaper costing??? Are you saying a 300 watt more expensive amp will go louder than a 300 watt Emo?...Or are your ears telling you that it that much better sounding. If so how,what makes it sound better?

Tankman

Stilly74,

As for some of these guys in here they do have highend gear.And a lot of them do know the difference.Now i have Emotiva UPA-1 mono blocks and like them a lot.But i wouldn't put them up against say a Krell mono block.UPA-1 is just not in the same class.A friend of mine has two Krells, and yes there is a Big difference in the sound quality.Like tonyb said EMOs are good,but there are way better amps.

heiney9

Stilly74 wrote: »

What makes Emo entry level??? Because it's cheaper costing??? Are you saying a 300 watt more expensive amp will go louder than a 300 watt Emo?...Or are your ears telling you that it that much better sounding. If so how,what makes it sound better?

Are you being serious? Entry level doesn't always relate directly to cost. It has to do with target market, design, build quality, parts used, performance, etc. Watts and especially specs don;t mean a damn thing. Until you can get your head around that, you won't understand a majority of this hobby and what it can ultimately offer. Unfortunately in order to build a better product all the areas I listed need to be better and that usually equates to costing more.

Of course if you are in the camp that thinks everything sounds the same and there is little to no difference, then we are done here.

H9

tonyb

Good points Brock.

Stilly- I think Tankman hit on it alittle better even though he may not know it. He heard something else. If he never heard a Krell, then nothing would be better than his Emo. Once you have something to compare to, have some experience listening to other gear, which alot here do, then those opinions carry some weight. Most 1st time amp buyers looking at Emo don't have any experience with anything else, and may have more budget concerns which makes Emo appealing. Nothing wrong with that, we all have different size wallets, but alternatives abound, and thats what we do, give suggestions based on budget and need. Not so hard to understand is it ?

polkfarmboy

Stilly74 wrote: »

What makes Emo entry level??? Because it's cheaper costing??? Are you saying a 300 watt more expensive amp will go louder than a 300 watt Emo?...Or are your ears telling you that it that much better sounding. If so how,what makes it sound better?

What makes it sound better will be the extended highs and a more detailed bottom end with great midrange authority giving one a sense of air and space. Voices from vocals will haunt your room and performances will get you more emotionally involved

I kinda felt bad for you at the start of this thread but after you posted that it seems your being ignorant with your statement. You obviously got that attitude from another forum that sells entry level gear

headrott

heiney9 wrote: »

Are you being serious? Entry level doesn't always relate directly to cost. It has to do with target market, design, build quality, parts used, performance, etc. Watts and especially specs don;t mean a damn thing. Until you can get your head around that, you won't understand a majority of this hobby and what it can ultimately offer. Unfortunately in order to build a better product all the areas I listed need to be better and that usually equates to costing more.

Of course if you are in the camp that thinks everything sounds the same and there is little to no difference, then we are done here.

H9

This!!^^^

Greg

rebuy

I think you guys are being a little hard on a guy for asking a question about his gear.

Drenis

polkfarmboy wrote: »

I have a 4 channel Emotiva amp for sale if your interested :biggrin:

When did Emo make a 4 channel amp?

heiney9

Drenis wrote: »

When did Emo make a 4 channel amp?

They don't, but the binding posts are broken off of the 5th channel :twisted:

H9

Drenis

heiney9 wrote: »

They don't, but the binding posts are broken off of the 5th channel :twisted:

H9

Ahh thanks for clearing that up. I started googling thinking maybe he made a typo.