B&K 202 arrived...

gmcman
gmcman Posts: 1,806
edited January 2012 in Electronics
ten minutes before the kids went to bed......:neutral:

Was off all day, had a spot waiting on the rack. Was also the B-day for the now 6YO so that's perfectly fine, she's more precious. Anyone know what I should look for in values for a DC offset at the speaker terminals? Figure I should perform a preliminary check before I hook it up.

I know...it didn't happen if, but had to get the kids in bed.

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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited January 2012
    Offset under 50 milivolts or so would be fine.
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  • gmcman
    gmcman Posts: 1,806
    edited January 2012
    Allright, down to business here.

    Amp looks spectacular give it's age, one tiny marr on a heatsink fin but not really noticeable. I powered it up and I have 2 mV on the right channel but have -1.6 on the left...is a neg value ok? Probes were correct on the +&-.

    No nudies yet but here she is.

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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited January 2012
    gmcman wrote: »

    Amp looks spectacular give it's age, one tiny marr on a heatsink fin but not really noticeable. I powered it up and I have 2 mV on the right channel but have -1.6 on the left...is a neg value ok? Probes were correct on the +&-.
    Looks minty. Offset is very low and as for the -1.6mv the value can be either pos. or neg.
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  • gmcman
    gmcman Posts: 1,806
    edited January 2012
    Not really sure how to write this up, this is my first seperate amp. Since I have to censor myself, i'll just say that I didn't imagine one piece would change the system like this.

    Rewind to earlier this afternoon, I have 100 hrs on the break-in of my 2B TL mod and was playing Peter Gabriel "So" on my Denon 3300 earlier, among other titles. I wasn't really blown away but noticed the more gradual transition from the mids to the highs. After 10 hrs there was noticeable brightness and the tweeter really stood out, but now it's settled down. I was moving the speakers around, moving sound panels to block reflections...etc...little better.

    I hooked up the B&K, ran a Toslink to the Yamaha CX-1000 and a set of BJC LC-1 RCA to the amp, was using the 3300 solely before that.

    Are you serious?

    Immediately, everything blended so seamlessly, the soundstage popped open and the details are unreal. Last thing I was thinking about was a bright tweeter....needless to say there was a big ole grin on my grille. I know it gets better and there is much better out there.... but this is a quantum leap from what I have been listening to.

    Jesse, you're absolutely correct.....get a man's amp. Thanks again.
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  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited January 2012
    I have one of those amps - very nice sounding piece. Enjoy the music.
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  • Gadabout
    Gadabout Posts: 1,072
    edited January 2012
    Looks sweet and we might have another B&K fan in the making ];->. After I got my first one, I ended up with 3 more. I sold one off to give a Adcom 5800 a try. I'll probably get rid of the Adcom and get another B&K for the bedroom rig.

    Happy listening,
    Scott
    Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. ..... Frank Zappa
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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited January 2012
    A B&K amp is on my list of want to haves. Great to hear you made the jump. Don't worry too much about the rabbit hole, it has a silky lining.
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  • bikerboy
    bikerboy Posts: 1,211
    edited January 2012
    I have one just like that also. Now the SDAs can show their stuff. Nice amp for the money and solid. Sounds like you are on the way.
    Main system: Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 w/ Pioneer 42" plazma-> Polk LSiM 703 w/Tivo, Marantz tuner, BRPTT: Nothingham Spacedeck-> Pioneer PL L1000 linear arm-> Soundsmith DL 103R-> SUT->Bottlehead ErosDigital: I3 PC w/ Jriver playing flac -> Sonore Ultrarendu -> Twisted Pair Audio ESS 9028 w/ Mercury IVY Vinyl rips: ESI Juli@24/192-> i3 PC server
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,572
    edited January 2012
    Enjoy! :cool:
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited January 2012
    Very nice, another fanboy here, love B&k amps too.

    Glad your getting a feel for what some good clean power does to a speaker. You can never go back now.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
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    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited January 2012
    Very nice. Congrats on the upgrade, love the B&K amps. :cool:
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  • rengnath
    rengnath Posts: 118
    edited January 2012
    I just got my B&K a few weeks ago and I love it! I will never power my mains with just an AVR again.

    I've had my brothers Parasound HCA-1000A hooked up now while I try to find a place to get my B&K serviced, and I can't decide which one sounds better. They definetly sound different, but I love both of them. These two amps have been my first hands-on experience with more power.
    AVR - Yamaha Aventage RX-A800
    Amps - B&K Components ST2140 (for mains) and Parasound HCA-1000A (bi-amping center)
    Mains - RT1000i Towers
    Center - CS400i
    Sub - BIC Acoustech PL200

    My neighbors listen to very good music, whether they like it or not :cheesygrin:
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited January 2012
    I have a B&K AV5000 that I have been using for about the last 2 or 3 years. I like it so much I am using it and having the pio elite as a pre. It is a monster and performs rather admirably. I wouldn't look any further than B&K if I am in the market again soon.
    Shawn
    AVR: Marantz SR-5011
    Center Channel: Polk LsiM706c
    Front: Polk LsiM703
    Rear: LSI fx
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39pci
    Television: Samsung UN58NU7100FXZA
    DVD Player: Sony PS4
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  • gmcman
    gmcman Posts: 1,806
    edited January 2012
    Seems some of the original crew from BK has moved on and have either formed or joined to what is Eastern Elite. Not sure of the whole story but their site is http://www.ee-av.com/
    Yeah, I see more of these in the future.....the 3300 will surely end up in the bedroom or possibly power the center and surrounds.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited January 2012
    Killer tweak for any B&K amp:
    http://www.partsconnexion.com/product7390.html
    Testing
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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited January 2012
    rengnath wrote: »
    I just got my B&K a few weeks ago and I love it! I will never power my mains with just an AVR again.

    I've had my brothers Parasound HCA-1000A hooked up now while I try to find a place to get my B&K serviced, and I can't decide which one sounds better. They definetly sound different, but I love both of them. These two amps have been my first hands-on experience with more power.

    I have a Parasound HCA 1000a running my SDA's right now also and love it. How does the B&K sound different as I would like to try one some time down the road. Kind of wondering what to expect when that time comes.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited January 2012
    dudeinaroom wrote: »
    I have a Parasound HCA 1000a running my SDA's right now also and love it. How does the B&K sound different as I would like to try one some time down the road. Kind of wondering what to expect when that time comes.

    Only Parasound I ever heard was in like '90.
    So I won't comment.
    I can say, you put a little money in the B&K's, and you probably won't look at other amps.
    Almost point to point wiring in the early ones.
    Few upgrades, your search will be over pretty quick.
    I have a Carver TFM-35 that I don't use.
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  • rengnath
    rengnath Posts: 118
    edited January 2012
    dudeinaroom wrote: »
    I have a Parasound HCA 1000a running my SDA's right now also and love it. How does the B&K sound different as I would like to try one some time down the road. Kind of wondering what to expect when that time comes.

    The B&K is a very smooth and warm amp, IMO. The sound is even all around, without much difference in levels between the mids and highs. The Parasound wakes the mid drivers up a little more on my rt1000i's and makes them "in your face" and punchy. Honestly, I can't decide though if the punchy sound of the Parasound is better than the smooth sound of the B&K. This is using my RX-A800 as a preamp, crossover set to 60hz. I am by no means an expert in audio though, so I apologize for not being able to describe both amps more. Overall, I would be happy using either in my system.
    AVR - Yamaha Aventage RX-A800
    Amps - B&K Components ST2140 (for mains) and Parasound HCA-1000A (bi-amping center)
    Mains - RT1000i Towers
    Center - CS400i
    Sub - BIC Acoustech PL200

    My neighbors listen to very good music, whether they like it or not :cheesygrin:
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