at a home theater crossroads and I don't know what to do... need suggestions
danger boy
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so for about 10 yrs now I've had a full home theater system based on the older RTxxxi line.. all match and sound good for me the most part.. what doesn't sound good to me if of course the lack of a decent amp.
A few issues i'm trying to overcome are:
1. do i improve the amp for the speakers and see what happens, downside 5 channel amps are pricey.
2. the CS400i center channel is way to large for most TV cabinents.. I have not found one nice looking cab to hold the components in whereby the center channel fits.
3. i've gotten tired of the sound
things and directions I could go are:
1. get rid of the front 3 matching speakers and replace them with something up to date and probaby smaller.
2. go with a SurroundBar type of set up. (I honestly don't watch as many movies as I did in the recent past) maybe one two two movies a month in the home theater.)
3. replace the pre amp with a new receiver, and more up to date than the Outlaw Audio pre I have been using for a while. (I was waiting for Outlaw to release the V.2 of this pre amp. but it never materialized.
Although I don't have deep pockets to completely start over from scratch with new speakers and set up.. what suggestions do you guys have for a direction I should go? New front end Polk Audio speakers or new receiver or what?
A few issues i'm trying to overcome are:
1. do i improve the amp for the speakers and see what happens, downside 5 channel amps are pricey.
2. the CS400i center channel is way to large for most TV cabinents.. I have not found one nice looking cab to hold the components in whereby the center channel fits.
3. i've gotten tired of the sound
things and directions I could go are:
1. get rid of the front 3 matching speakers and replace them with something up to date and probaby smaller.
2. go with a SurroundBar type of set up. (I honestly don't watch as many movies as I did in the recent past) maybe one two two movies a month in the home theater.)
3. replace the pre amp with a new receiver, and more up to date than the Outlaw Audio pre I have been using for a while. (I was waiting for Outlaw to release the V.2 of this pre amp. but it never materialized.
Although I don't have deep pockets to completely start over from scratch with new speakers and set up.. what suggestions do you guys have for a direction I should go? New front end Polk Audio speakers or new receiver or what?
PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
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I see the weakest link being that old reciever... time to join the ICE clube and get a Pioneer Elite SC.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
What kind of sound are you look for? I know the feeling where you feel "bored" of the same thing.
Like Noos said, I would look into a new receiver first. Save some money, buy used.Home Theater Setup- Receiver - Onkyo TX-RZ1100
- Mains - Polk RTi A9's
- External Amps - Outlaw 2200 Monoblocks for L/R/C
- Center - Polk CSiA6
- Side Surrounds - Polk FXiA6's
- Atmos - 4 Polk 80F/X RT's
- Sub - SVS PC-4000
- T.V. - LG OLED65C7P
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Start with a new receiver, even a used pioneer sc model will save some coin and give you the best bang for your buck. After that, since coinage is limited,stay in the used department for speakers. You haven't said if you want this for strictly HT or music too. That will determine what suggestions pop up.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Receiver, get a nice Pioneer and see how that grabs you.
Maybe if that isn't enough go 7.1. -
Did I miss it somewhere, or can you post your current setup? I don't understand how people are giving advice without knowing your current gear, so I assume I'm missing it somwehere.
Going on what you did post, I'd actually argue that the speakers are actually the weak link and an upgrade may be in order there, but again I don't know the specific gear you're running -
Taking a quick look at the system showcase are you using the Marantz SR5000 for processing duties?
The biggest reason for me to upgrade my older HT 6 years ago was to take advantage of something that would process DTS HD Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD. The sound difference from the older Codecs and to the newer codecs made a world of difference (to me) in HT enjoyment.
A current list of equipment would help since the listing in the system showcase is over 5 years old. (Unless nothing has changed since then :biggrin:)
A list of your equipment would certainly help.
ScottWithout music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. ..... Frank Zappa -
Id upgrade the power all first in my experience. Your never going to have a receiver amp that can keep up with an external. Lots of people on here like the pioneers for reviewers if you decide that route id go with something like an anthem any day. I don't like the bells on pioneers and personally prefer less. Your center would sound like a completely fifteenth speaker with some real power behind it. I prefer b&k personally. Even for 400the bucks on audiogon you should be able to pick up one that's either 3 or 5playing channel of real 125 @8
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sorry guys.. i should have listed the gear i'm using.. it hasn't changed in years, but here it is..
Polk RT800i's for mains
Polk CS400i for center
Polk surrounds that match the others
hybrid subwoofer, which I still love. i've never bottomed this thing out. SVS driver
Outlaw Audio 900 pre amp
3 Marantz 500 amps for fronts
stereo amp for rears
the rest of the components don't really matter for sound really.. but a Samsung BD player hooked up via 5.1 ch analog RCA's to pre amp.
I think the speakers could be the weak link.. just tired of their sound and maybe it's time to move in a different newer speaker direction. Speakers have come a long way in 10 yrs.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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Well, seems like a change in speakers is in order. Do you see yourself sticking with Polk, or are you (gasp!) considering something different? :eek:
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Any 2 channel music involved here? If so I say replaced the fronts, with something else, and replaced the AVR Pioneer is fine. Then add an amp down the road if it fits you......
Speakers
Carver Amazing Fronts
CS400i Center
RT800i's Rears
Sub Paradigm Servo 15
Electronics
Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
Parasound Halo A23
Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
Pioneer 79Avi DVD
Sony CX400 CD changer
Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR -
disneyjoe7 wrote: »Any 2 channel music involved here? If so I say replaced the fronts, with something else, and replaced the AVR Pioneer is fine. Then add an amp down the road if it fits you......
Danger - You seem to want to move to something else, mainly due to boredom... familiarity... tired of the same old same old. If I were you, I'd be seeking out some Def Tech products. Or Paradigm. Or KEF, Axiom, B&W... So many choices, so little time!! -
What's another Amp or two between friends
Speakers
Carver Amazing Fronts
CS400i Center
RT800i's Rears
Sub Paradigm Servo 15
Electronics
Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
Parasound Halo A23
Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
Pioneer 79Avi DVD
Sony CX400 CD changer
Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR -
You have some sort of budget in mind so we are not recommending Cary gear ?
That Outlaw is dated and I think with all the new processing in receivers these days, a new one will give you a significant uptick to the sound. Keep the amps. Speakers are another ballgame. If you like the Polk sound, RTIA7's seem to be up your alley. If you want something different to try, Dynaudio bookies, Legacy, Kef, Totem, just to start with as these are just a small sample of quality speaks that will be the best deviation from the Polk signature sound.....in a good way. Again, don't know what the budget is but still go used if you need to stretch your buying power. That center is pretty decent too and you may even be able to keep the center and surrounds for now until you find the right sound for your front stereo pair.
Myself and alot of others here who have been around the block a time or two owning/hearing almost every model Polk has made, have moved on from that signature sound. Not that it's bad, it's very good actualy, just time to experience something different. For me I moved up to the Legacy speaker line and since they have never failed to bring a smile to my face every time. Your journey may take you in another direction, I dunno, lots of choices out there bro.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's