The end of CD's debunked
F1nut
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I knew that story was hogwash.
http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=146&p=11482&title=are_major_labels_about_to_abandon_the_cd_1&more=1&c=1
http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=146&p=11482&title=are_major_labels_about_to_abandon_the_cd_1&more=1&c=1
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
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Thanks F1. Maybe that will stop the bitchfest in the other thread about cd's ending.
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Thanks Jessie. Sorry I opened a can of worms. Cheers. :redface:
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I look at the business and actually it does make sense to stop cd's. I'm willing to go on record of predicting the end of cd's by 2013.
I think movies will go the same way maybe by 2014.
But for all of us who still by cd's , this is nice , we get to hang on for a little longer.Dan
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I look at the business and actually it does make sense to stop cd's. I'm willing to go on record of predicting the end of cd's by 2013.
I think movies will go the same way maybe by 2014."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
Kinda had a feeling......thanks Jess for bringing up some common sense into it.HT SYSTEM-
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I look at the business and actually it does make sense to stop cd's. I'm willing to go on record of predicting the end of cd's by 2013.
I think movies will go the same way maybe by 2014.
But for all of us who still by cd's , this is nice , we get to hang on for a little longer.
Care to entertain us with why you feel this way? Curious minds want to know.If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money. -
I look at the business and actually it does make sense to stop cd's. I'm willing to go on record of predicting the end of cd's by 2013.
I think movies will go the same way maybe by 2014.
But for all of us who still by cd's , this is nice , we get to hang on for a little longer.
Why would it make sense if they still sell? They are very cheap to produce, half of them don't even come with plastic cases anymore, just paperboard sleeves. -
They can do whatever they want as long as I have a digital music collect in pure 1411 kbps lossless format. 900-1200 kbps just wont do!
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These are exactly the points I brought up. Thanks for the update on the hogwash Jesse.
"The piece was poorly written, and named no expert sources (beyond its own "chief editor"), but that didn't stop it spreading faster than the "FENTOOOON!" meme."
"The writer claimed that he'd contacted EMI, Universal and Sony, all of whom "declined to comment". Which is a puzzle, because when I tried to get a comment from a major label it took precisely 30 seconds for them to reply saying the whole thing was "nonsense"."
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2013. Is that an "End of the World as we know it" prediction?
Or just "The End of the World!"? Because if the World ends, then so will CDs, right? lol
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Rev.Harold Camping wrote: »I look at the business and actually it does make sense to stop cd's. I'm willing to go on record of predicting the end of cd's by 2013.
I think movies will go the same way maybe by 2014. -
Speaking of prophecies... Anyone been raptured yet?
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I look at the business and actually it does make sense to stop cd's. I'm willing to go on record of predicting the end of cd's by 2013.
I think movies will go the same way maybe by 2014.
But for all of us who still by cd's , this is nice , we get to hang on for a little longer.
Edison used wax on paper 134 years ago in 1877.
I'm not exactly sure what they used between Edison and vinyl, but vinyl LP's as we know them have been produced for 60 years.
And you think they will stop producing CD's in 2014 ?????? Really ??????VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
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inspiredsports wrote: »Edison used wax on paper 134 years ago in 1877.
I'm not exactly sure what they used between Edison and vinyl, but vinyl LP's as we know them have been produced for 60 years.
And you think they will stop producing CD's in 2014 ?????? Really ??????
They used shellac, which is a resinous secretion of the "lac" (or "lacca") bug - and soluble in alcohol (ethanol).
Those were the old, oh-so-breakable, 78s were. -
CD's are going the way of the dinosaur for sure. I have three kids (17,21,24). None of them buy cd's, none of there friends buy cd's.
It's all mp3's and streaming for them.I got static in my head
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FWIW, the local radio station said Best Buy would no longer stock cds beginning in 2013. My local BB hardly stocks any now.
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CD's are going the way of the dinosaur for sure. I have three kids (17,21,24). None of them buy cd's, none of there friends buy cd's.
It's all mp3's and streaming for them.
I'll see your 17, 21 and 24 year old, and raise you my 19 year old. They all use (and buy) both.VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
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mhardy6647 wrote: »They used shellac, which is a resinous secretion of the "lac" (or "lacca") bug - and soluble in alcohol (ethanol).
Those were the old, oh-so-breakable, 78s were.
If your old enough, you guys remember those 78's that had pictures on the record itself ? Kinda like the jacket only embedded on the record. Those have to be worth some coin these days I imagine.HT SYSTEM-
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Why did this honestly have a true belief anyways? C'mon.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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Meanwhile, SACD is having possibly the format's biggest year in terms of numbers of new releases.
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Another great point. From the great SRV SACD's from MOFI, to all those Japanese SACD's being released (which are great but I wish they were priced a little lower), and many others, it has been a very good year for the SACD format... :loneranger:
And MoFi just announced new SACD releases next year for Miles Davis, Dylan, Billy Joel, and the Beach Boys. -
FWIW, the local radio station said Best Buy would no longer stock cds beginning in 2013. My local BB hardly stocks any now.
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Speaking of this, has anyone been to the bargain bin at Best Buy ? Picked up a bunch of titles for 5 bucks each. Largely greatest hits collections, various artists. -
FWIW, the local radio station said Best Buy would no longer stock cds beginning in 2013. My local BB hardly stocks any now.
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Like Wal-Mart, they probably feel the floor space taken up by physical media is better used for something they can turn a bigger profit on.If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money. -
The Oracle has spoken.
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Why did this honestly have a true belief anyways? C'mon.
Because Dan has forseen the future and has gone on record as predicting it.I look at the business and actually it does make sense to stop cd's. I'm willing to go on record of predicting the end of cd's by 2013.
I think movies will go the same way maybe by 2014.
But for all of us who still by cd's , this is nice , we get to hang on for a little longer.
'Cause, you know, he's a genius.
Or something.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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CD's are going away? In the land of flashing vcr clocks? I don't think so. They may go away when (as usual) the baby booms decide they've had enough, but that won't happen as long as the most important downloads in a boomer's life are still the all so important one first thing in the morning, and that lucky Viagra one.
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Care to entertain us with why you feel this way? Curious minds want to know.
Media servers , HD recording on line like www.hdtracks.com are becoming a better way to buy music and replay at home. CD's beed around since the late 70's early 80's and I feel honestly it''s time for something new and better quality.
Cd player sales are down to almost a dead stop. Most of our new 2 channel systems use Media servers , Computers built for this or a Sonos , Bryston Streamer etc. Most people don't even want to buy a high end cd player for their high end rig anymore. They rather have a hard drive.
Don't get me wrong , I still buy CD's that I want the highest quality. Most of my general listening is iTunes with music that I work out to , drive to etc. Only my sit down listening is CD anymore. When I figure out what I'm gonna play HD tracks with , most likely a Mac Mini , I will no longer purchase CD's.Dan
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I gotta a question for all of you who still want to use the CD format, why?
If you can store all your music in one place , take up about a 12 inch or less square space , have access to all your music with a OSD or a App on your Smart phone Tablet etc , get the same or better quality in replay , have all the artwork , written notes from the artist at your finger tips , what makes you hold on?Dan
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Because, hardware fails.
Media sticks around, is stable and tangible.
And your "customer base" that you are basing your thoughts on? They are a minority in the marketplace. Why? One, they have the money to pay someone like you to come in to their house and do it for them. Two, they have the money to BUY the gear in the first place. The vast majority of people out there do not have those resources available to them. Most here don't have that level of resources available to them. Most here can do for themselves out of a desire to have what they can't afford and the necessity to learn because they can't afford professional services.
Also, I'll break it down for you this way. The last CD I bought is from Gretchen Lieberum called "siren songs". On this CD, there are 11 songs. If I bought this album on iTunes it would have cost me $.99 each plus taxes and fees. It would have been about $12 in total. That's just for standard MP3 quality. It's more for the higher quality and/or lossless rips. I paid $9 at Amazon.com with free super saver shipping and no sales tax. I also have high quiality digital copies of this entire CD on my media server and my phone. I can use my digital copies in any device/system I want because I don't have to deal with DRM.
But hey, you know all that already, don'tcha. 'Cause you know, you can see the future in your personal quest to save the world from bad audio (with iTunes digital formats) one thread at a time.
Yeah, I'll keep buying CD's and running screaming from anything that has to do with Apple/Steve Jobs.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
You're just jealous 'cause the voices don't talk to you!