Subject: Fw: The Shoe Bomber's sentencing by the judge
HBombToo
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What the Media forgot to report. It is a long read but well worth your time. I received this over email and wanted to share it with you.
HBombToo
The Shoe Bomber
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his
shoe and tried to light it? His trial is over, how much of this Judge's
comments did you hear on TV? Everyone should hear what the judge
had to say.
Ruling by Judge William Young U.S. District Court, Judge William Young
made the following statement in sentencing "shoe bomber" Richard Reid
to prison. It is noteworthy, and deserves to be remembered far longer than
he predicts. I commend it to you and to anyone you might wish to forward it
to.
January 30, 2003 United States vs. Reid. Judge Young:
Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes
upon you.
On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in
the custody of the United States Attorney General.
On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in
prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive
with the other. That's 80 years.
On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years
consecutive to the 80 years just imposed.
The Court imposes upon you each of the eight counts a fine of
$250,000 for the aggregate fine of $2 million.
The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to
restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre
Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines.
The Court imposes upon you the $800 special assessment.
The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply
because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life
sentences so I need go no further.
This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a fair
and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence. Let me explain this
to you.
We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr.
Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There
is all too much war talk here. And I say that to everyone with the utmost
respect.
Here in this court , where we deal with individuals as individuals,
and care for individuals as individuals. As human beings, we reach out
for justice.
You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are
not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that
reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature.
Whether it is the officers of government who do it or your attorney
who does it, or that happens to be your view, you are a terrorist.
And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not treat with
terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them
down one by one and bring them to justice.
So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big
fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I know warriors. You
are a terrorist. A species of criminal guilty of multiple attempted murders.
In a very real sense, State Trooper Santigo had it right when you first
were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the
press and where the TV crews were, and he said you're no big deal. You're
no big deal.
What your counsel, what your able counsel and what the equally able
United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly
as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific.
What was it that led you here to this courtroom today? I have
listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to
search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led
you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing. And I
have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you. But as I search this
entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.
It seems to me you hate the one thing that is most precious. You
hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to
live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe
as we individually choose.
Here, in this society, the very winds carry freedom. They carry it
everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual
freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom. So
that everyone can see, truly see that justice is administered fairly,
individually, and discretely.
It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your
behalf and have filed appeals, will go on in their, their representation of
you before other judges. We are about it. Because we all know that the
way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no
mistake though. It is yet true that we will bare any burden, pay any price,
to preserve our freedoms.
Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going
to long remember what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow it will
be forgotten. But this, however, will long endure. Here in this courtroom
and courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to
see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice
is in fact being done.
The very President of the United States through his officers will have
to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters
can be judged, and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge
that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of
justice.
See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America.
That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands
for freedom. You know it always will.
Custody Mr. Officer. Stand him down.
So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets?
Please pass this around. Everyone should/needs to hear what this fine
judge had to say.
HBombToo
The Shoe Bomber
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his
shoe and tried to light it? His trial is over, how much of this Judge's
comments did you hear on TV? Everyone should hear what the judge
had to say.
Ruling by Judge William Young U.S. District Court, Judge William Young
made the following statement in sentencing "shoe bomber" Richard Reid
to prison. It is noteworthy, and deserves to be remembered far longer than
he predicts. I commend it to you and to anyone you might wish to forward it
to.
January 30, 2003 United States vs. Reid. Judge Young:
Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes
upon you.
On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in
the custody of the United States Attorney General.
On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in
prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive
with the other. That's 80 years.
On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years
consecutive to the 80 years just imposed.
The Court imposes upon you each of the eight counts a fine of
$250,000 for the aggregate fine of $2 million.
The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to
restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre
Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines.
The Court imposes upon you the $800 special assessment.
The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply
because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life
sentences so I need go no further.
This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a fair
and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence. Let me explain this
to you.
We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr.
Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There
is all too much war talk here. And I say that to everyone with the utmost
respect.
Here in this court , where we deal with individuals as individuals,
and care for individuals as individuals. As human beings, we reach out
for justice.
You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are
not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that
reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature.
Whether it is the officers of government who do it or your attorney
who does it, or that happens to be your view, you are a terrorist.
And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not treat with
terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them
down one by one and bring them to justice.
So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big
fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I know warriors. You
are a terrorist. A species of criminal guilty of multiple attempted murders.
In a very real sense, State Trooper Santigo had it right when you first
were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the
press and where the TV crews were, and he said you're no big deal. You're
no big deal.
What your counsel, what your able counsel and what the equally able
United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly
as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific.
What was it that led you here to this courtroom today? I have
listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to
search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led
you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing. And I
have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you. But as I search this
entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.
It seems to me you hate the one thing that is most precious. You
hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to
live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe
as we individually choose.
Here, in this society, the very winds carry freedom. They carry it
everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual
freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom. So
that everyone can see, truly see that justice is administered fairly,
individually, and discretely.
It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your
behalf and have filed appeals, will go on in their, their representation of
you before other judges. We are about it. Because we all know that the
way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no
mistake though. It is yet true that we will bare any burden, pay any price,
to preserve our freedoms.
Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going
to long remember what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow it will
be forgotten. But this, however, will long endure. Here in this courtroom
and courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to
see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice
is in fact being done.
The very President of the United States through his officers will have
to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters
can be judged, and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge
that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of
justice.
See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America.
That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands
for freedom. You know it always will.
Custody Mr. Officer. Stand him down.
So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets?
Please pass this around. Everyone should/needs to hear what this fine
judge had to say.
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Comments
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That was awesome! WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Said! Amen!- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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He should have just been executed.
Anyhow...Mr. Young is a wonderful conservative and his comments showed it. -
I agree with all that the judge said. I'm curious though, and this isn't an arguement in the making, what is your impression of how a liberal would react? (this should go: you answer, I say OK or somethin to that effect....no mas)Originally posted by Demiurge
Anyhow...Mr. Young is a wonderful conservative and his comments showed it.comment comment comment comment. bitchy. -
Well said...
What is that all about?restitution in the amount of $298.17 to AndreSDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070
Senn HD650 Cardas, Mapletree Audio Ear+ HD2, Kimber KS1030, Bel Canto DAC2, M-Audio Transit, Laptop. -
DCarlson....
He was some guy in france that he somehow owed money to. I don't know if it was damage? theft, or what....
but thats what thats all about. -
Originally posted by brettw22
I agree with all that the judge said. I'm curious though, and this isn't an arguement in the making, what is your impression of how a liberal would react? (this should go: you answer, I say OK or somethin to that effect....no mas)
Liberals don't talk about our country like that in a court of law. If you remember back in December when the Judge made these comments there was quite a bit of hoopla about it in the press.....
Mind you I'm talking about Liberal elites, not people like you and I. -
OK or somethin to that effect.......no mascomment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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H man,
Great post!Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
re-read my initial post........:)Originally posted by Demiurge
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Oh, I know what you said. I was just curious what your response meant....exactly...
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You answered, so I said......Originally posted by brettw22
(this should go: you answer, I say OK or somethin to that effect....no mas)comment comment comment comment. bitchy. -
Originally posted by F1nut
H man,
Great post!
Thanks... I think the thread implies I'm a conservative?:p
Oh well sometimes I just don't understand.
BTW I have not removed the circuit from the Stewart Warner. Thanks for the Addy but my procrastination is kicken in.:D
Twin***WAREMTAE*** -
Well, get off your evil twin **** and get to doin'.
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
