Help me purchase my first preamp

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  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,634
    edited July 22
    Well the adcom slipped away, you know the sayin, you snooze you lose.

    So I settled for a B&K reference 50. Hopefully I'll get a chance to get it dialed in sometime in the next few days.
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SDA 2B, SDA II, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11T X2 pairs, RTA 8T, LSI9, LSI7, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,329
    Cool, solid pre amp with connections up the wazoo. Let us know your thoughts and if ya need help just yell. That puppy has a million ways to tailor the sound.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,423
    edited July 24
    tonyb wrote: »
    ...That puppy has a million ways to tailor the sound.

    Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

    ;)

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,423
    edited July 24
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    ;)


    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 384
    Love my ref 50! Tony knows!!!
    SDA 1C's
    B&K Reference 50 Pre
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,634
    Finally today I found time to hook up the reference 50. Buying it without the remote nor manual was probably not the smartest thing to do. I managed to get it working in stereo mode, but there are many parameters that I need to customize to get it working properly.

    Nonetheless I like what I'm hearing so far.
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SDA 2B, SDA II, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11T X2 pairs, RTA 8T, LSI9, LSI7, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • gmcmangmcman Posts: 1,119
    I'd make an offer on that bad boy....essential to the operation of your preamp. Even the asking price is fair.


    https://m.ebay.com/itm/B-K-System-Remote-SR-10-1-/142895602819
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,634
    Thanks for the heads up.
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SDA 2B, SDA II, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11T X2 pairs, RTA 8T, LSI9, LSI7, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,756
    la2vegas wrote: »
    Well the adcom slipped away, you know the sayin, you snooze you lose.

    So I settled for a B&K reference 50. Hopefully I'll get a chance to get it dialed in sometime in the next few days.

    Let me look around but I might have a original owners manual for the Ref 50 I'd be happy to send your way if your interested.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,634
    That would be great, it would be extremely appreciated. :)
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SDA 2B, SDA II, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11T X2 pairs, RTA 8T, LSI9, LSI7, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,250
    Post up some pics of your new preamp man!
    Got Dayens?
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,329
    edited August 6
    Send Mantis/Dan a PM, he might be able to copy one of the many he probably has.

    I should add, most adjustments can be done by the front panel, but there is a bit of a learning curve to be proficient at it. In direct mode, you by-pass all the parameters for sound adj. anyway so that might give you a feel for the sound. Most processors, any brand, are a pain without the remote.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,634
    You're right on the money again Tony. I can eventually get it dialed in without the manual or the remote, but things would surely be easier navigated with both of those items.
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SDA 2B, SDA II, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11T X2 pairs, RTA 8T, LSI9, LSI7, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • gmcmangmcman Posts: 1,119
    Connecting the Z1 video output to your tv will aid tremendously ..I believe you can still open the on screen menu from the front menu button.
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,634
    All I have it connected to is an adcom gfa-545 and a denon dvd3910.
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SDA 2B, SDA II, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11T X2 pairs, RTA 8T, LSI9, LSI7, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • gmcmangmcman Posts: 1,119
    I would strongly recommend connecting a monitor to it....I dont know how you can fully set it up without a display
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,634
    Hmn...perhaps you're right. I'll give that a try.
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SDA 2B, SDA II, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11T X2 pairs, RTA 8T, LSI9, LSI7, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,329
    Yep, a monitor would definitely help things. Good call...
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,634
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Post up some pics of your new preamp man!

    Nothing to see. Have it in the garage trying to get it dialed in for now.8xjdul53219y.jpg
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SDA 2B, SDA II, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11T X2 pairs, RTA 8T, LSI9, LSI7, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,250
    Looks like it's in mint condition! :)
    Got Dayens?
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,634
    It's in better shape than the other two components in that pic that's for sure.
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SDA 2B, SDA II, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11T X2 pairs, RTA 8T, LSI9, LSI7, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • teekay0007teekay0007 Posts: 2,050
    Hey, didn’t you say you were operating this for 2-channel?

    If so, you’ll want to set it to “Stereo 2” rather than 5. As it is, you’re sending signal for surround stereo and you won’t be hearing all the goodness with only two speakers connected.
  • gmcmangmcman Posts: 1,119
    teekay0007 wrote: »
    Hey, didn’t you say you were operating this for 2-channel?

    If so, you’ll want to set it to “Stereo 2” rather than 5. As it is, you’re sending signal for surround stereo and you won’t be hearing all the goodness with only two speakers connected.

    ^^^^This^^^^
    If you're lucky, it may already be setup for Direct 2
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,634
    Unfortunately I bought it without the manual and I'm still trying to figure it out.
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SDA 2B, SDA II, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11T X2 pairs, RTA 8T, LSI9, LSI7, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 1,412
    2 channel
    Speakers: Mission 770 Freedoms
    Integrated amp: Technics SU-v75 and matching tuner
    CDP: Technics SL-PC20
    Cables: Monoprice, Monster, Acoustic Research, and a few generic ones
    TT: Technics SL-3200, direct drive
    Cartridge: Shure M97xE

    Pc gaming setup
    Receiver/amp: Yamaha RX-V665
    Computer: Lenovo g50 (soon to be upgraded to a Dell Precision 690 which is far from stock!!)
    Interconnects: Amazon basics HDMI, Acoustic Research HDMI, Monoprice speaker cables
    Speakers: Boston Acoustics CR75s

    Random equipment on standby:
    Onkyo TX-v940, JBL woofers and tweeters, single Klipsch KG .5, Yamaha guitar amplifier, Peavey Rage 158 guitar amplifier, Kicker comp 12” subwoofer, single Bose 802 series II, a whole bunch of 1”-3” full range drivers, Infinity Crescendo 3007s (on sale), Polk LSi25s
    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    You don't tell her you read the manual, and you tell her you know what the problem is, and you fixed it, because that what men do, fix things
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 18,272
    Parasound PH/P850 was the best under $500 (new) preamp I've heard.
    Transport: Oppo BDP-103/USB HDD | Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2L | Power Amp: Parasound Halo A21 | Speakers: PSB Imagine T2 | Cables: Signal Cable XLR; Kimber 8VS Bi-Wire; Belden 1694A Dig Coax | AC Power: Panamax M5300-PM
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,329
    Not too far from setting up a HT receiver these days. You set up each input, name it, decide what speakers will apply to it, all the parameters for that, what digital/analog inputs will be used, blah blah.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,634
    la2vegas wrote: »
    Well the adcom slipped away, you know the sayin, you snooze you lose.

    So I settled for a B&K reference 50. Hopefully I'll get a chance to get it dialed in sometime in the next few days.

    Let me look around but I might have a original owners manual for the Ref 50 I'd be happy to send your way if your interested.

    Interested, if you have it it'd be great.
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SDA 2B, SDA II, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11T X2 pairs, RTA 8T, LSI9, LSI7, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • Gerres26Gerres26 Posts: 341
    @msg knows a great deal about these pre/pros and other B&K gear in general. He helped me setup my Reference 30 when i first got it. I only wanted it for 2 channel as well and it did very very well as far as I'm concerned.
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