Carver 4.0t or Acurus A250 or Parasound 2250 v2

CH46ECH46E Posts: 528
What would you take to run RTA12B?

Carver 4.0t or Acurus A250 or Parasound 2250 v2 22 votes

Carver 4.0t
18%
treitz3trav0810daddyjtmpitogo 4 votes
Acurus A250
31%
MrBuhllightman1ConradicleserniejadeEndersShadowboston1450ZLTFUL 7 votes
Parasound 2250 v2
45%
steveinazcfrizzgeorge danielaiconnNotaSuvpitdogg2sgtmick63chumlieClipdatMikey081057 10 votes
Adcom GFA555 mkll
4%
Viking64 1 vote

Comments

  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 17,684
    None of the above is not a choice...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with PS Audio NuWave Phono converter, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 525a CD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray , Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 17,684
    edited June 28
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with PS Audio NuWave Phono converter, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 525a CD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray , Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 9,557
    Acurus A250
    None of the above is not a choice...

    I beg to differ on your first statement, John. Take into consideration the allowed budget. Then maybe ask what other gear is upstream and downstream. Ask before you judge.... Then offer guidance.
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 9,557
    Acurus A250
    Dang it! You said "not" a choice.... I'll show myself out...
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,659
    Acurus A250
    lightman1 wrote: »
    None of the above is not a choice...

    I beg to differ on your first statement, John. Take into consideration the allowed budget. Then maybe ask what other gear is upstream and downstream. Ask before you judge.... Then offer guidance.

    Holy crap! Wisdom from Russ...

    Like manna from heaven, happen rarely, and when it does, you notice :wink:
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,212
    For the 12b's.....Carver or the Parrasound. With some weight on the Parrasound side.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 528
    I have the Parasound now but kind of itching for something else. I have not heard that Carver 4.0t but i have heard the Silver 7 tube amp and loved it. The 4.0t was transfer function based on the Silver 7. Was hoping it might sound similar.

    I have not heard any Acurus amp, but hear good things about them.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 17,684
    The m4.0t sounds nothing like the silver 7
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with PS Audio NuWave Phono converter, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 525a CD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray , Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 10,034
    edited June 28
    Parasound 2250 v2
    The Carver 4.0T is the same as a TFM45 both long in the tooth and unless they have been recapped well past the due date for that.....

    I run Carver TFM 45 and a TFM 25 both completely recapped and upgraded by Roland and Bob Carver.

    I have heard both the Silver 7 and 9 neither the 45 or 4.0 sound like them.
  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 528
    edited June 28
    Wanna trade the TFM45?
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 10,034
    Parasound 2250 v2
    CH46E wrote: »
    Wanna trade the TFM45?

    sure for $2800.00 cash......
  • trav0810trav0810 Posts: 923
    Carver 4.0t
    I must say, I really do like the combination of the M4.0t and the Polks. I've never heard the Acurus, so I can't judge it.
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  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 12,383
    Carver 4.0t
    tonyb wrote: »
    For the 12b's.....Carver or the Parrasound. With some weight on the Parrasound side.
    I will concur but swap out your suggestion. The Carver 4.0t is one of my favorite sound signatures from the Carver lineup and it pairs well with Polk speakers. Not a big fan of the sound signature of Parasound.

    Cooter has wisdom? *falls to floor*

    Shut up Russ.

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    The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,816
    CH46E wrote: »
    I have the Parasound now but kind of itching for something else. I have not heard that Carver 4.0t but i have heard the Silver 7 tube amp and loved it. The 4.0t was transfer function based on the Silver 7. Was hoping it might sound similar.

    Not even close.

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,212
    What speaker cables and IC's are you using for the 12b's and amps ?
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 528
    Audioquest Diamondback RCAs. . And regular speaker wire due to the long run. I have audioquest cv8 but cant use them :(
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,212
    CH46E wrote: »
    Audioquest Diamondback RCAs. . And regular speaker wire due to the long run. I have audioquest cv8 but cant use them :(

    Could be why the Parasound isn't tickling your fancy. Hard to make judgements on amps if the cables aren't up to snuff.

    How long of a run are we talkin' anyway ? 12-15 ft ?

    The 12b's are on the warmer side imho, with a bit of emphasis on the lower frequencies. Any amp too warm may just bring that out too much.

    The Acurus has a bit more emphasis on the lower regions which may not pair well. The Carver is more even balanced, and the Parasound isn't as warm as the earlier HCA series, which is why I'm kinda shocked you don't care for it.

    See if you can move things and try your CV8 speaker cables on them, just to get an idea of the sound....and go from there.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 528
    45 ft runs. Fished the walls up to the attic, across the room then down the wall again.

  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 1,213
    edited June 29
    CH46E wrote: »
    45 ft runs. Fished the walls up to the attic, across the room then down the wall again.

    Yikes! That’s a long run of cable. Though you could probably get a spool of Blue Jeans cable and cut it yourself.
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    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    You don't tell her you read the manual, and you tell her you know what the problem is, and you fixed it, because that what men do, fix things
    sure it has a flat response, and sure it has a lot of detail, and yes, it has good and clear lows. But is it enjoyable to listen to? Does it make you grin ear to ear? That’s what really matters.
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  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 528
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    CH46E wrote: »
    45 ft runs. Fished the walls up to the attic, across the room then down the wall again.

    Yikes! That’s a long run of cable. Though you could probably get a spool of Blue Jeans cable and cut it yourself.

    I forgot about blue jeans! I already put some bulk wire in. Not going to be getting in yhe attic anytime soon. Have to wait until nov or dec here in FL. Too dang hot.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 10,034
    edited June 29
    Parasound 2250 v2
    CH46E wrote: »
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    CH46E wrote: »
    45 ft runs. Fished the walls up to the attic, across the room then down the wall again.

    Yikes! That’s a long run of cable. Though you could probably get a spool of Blue Jeans cable and cut it yourself.

    Not going to be getting in yhe attic anytime soon. Have to wait until nov or dec here in FL. Too dang hot.

    Sissy.... :D :D :D


    You could go to have inc. and buy a spool of Canare 4s11 for like 300.00
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 17,684
    That’s what Russ is for....
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with PS Audio NuWave Phono converter, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 525a CD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray , Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 9,557
    Acurus A250
    Will work for beer and smokes...
  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 528
    lightman1 wrote: »
    Will work for beer and smokes...

    You in Florida?? :)
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 9,557
    Acurus A250
    Not yet. Still in Iowa. Heading back to Indiana Monday. Florida has come up in conversation with home office for a big project for FDOT.....
  • boston1450boston1450 Posts: 5,927
    edited June 29
    Acurus A250
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