Backert Rhumba 1.2 vs Cary SLP-98

GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,479
first off, I'm not an audiophile, but a hi-fi enthusiast ... here's my experience

I've had the SLP-98 Cary for a few years and I am totally happy with her, with the single exception of zero XLR connections. When a local offer of a Rhumba 1.2 came available, I couldn't resist the temptation. This offer was about 6 weeks ago, LONG AFTER the CP demo of the first iteration, which I somehow missed.

The Rhumba 1.2 (Not the Extreme) sports these updates over the original version.
From Backert:
- Enhanced “all GreenForce” power supply – increases access to pure AC from the wall outlet, giving the Rhumba 1.2 even more rhythm and dynamics
- Improved power supply regulator
- Premium Jensen transformers
- More massive front plate
- Additional chassis damping throughout
- New Silk II circuit in gain stage and regulator for better dynamics, more sweet and open sound
- Ceramic tube sockets
- Phase correct
- Enhanced gold IEC inlet from Furutech
- Enhanced circuit board: double the copper

- Red/blue cover options, $100

Mine arrived in basic black

This pre is solid and competes respectably with the Cary. However, Cary dominates wrt musicality and rhythm, as I kind of expected it to.
Don't get me wrong, the Rhumba is musical, with rhythm, it's just that Cary has more of it. Which I like a lot.
The Cary rules in the lower frequencies, too. That, I was't anticipating.

I received the Rhumba with late model Telefunkens and sounded ok, but dry
The only tubes rolled into the Rhumba (so far) are late 1950's GE JG 5814A grey plates
and 1960s Tung Sol 12AU7 grey plates.

Both are good pre amps. But for comparable used US dollars spent (minus the cost of tubes), the nod goes to the "sweet little pre" (i.e. SLP)

Time will tell. But, for now, Cary stays . . .

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  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,054
    Nice writeup. Im glad you got to tube roll it also before making a decision. Why the big urge for XLR? A lot of arguments for both sides (rca vs xlr) are out there.
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  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,479
    No logical reason… Just got itching to try it!
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  • mikeyb128mikeyb128 Posts: 2,723
    I was in a similar boat as you. I had a Cary SLP03 and had a major itch. I contemplated the Rhumba due to its stellar reviews. BUT! For the same money I could grab an SLP05 instead (used of course). I ended up grabbing one in fabulous condition for about 3200 USD with shipping. And I’m really glad I did, this preamp is stunning to say the least. For the money I don’t think anything would beat it.
    2 channel:
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  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,054
    Strange question, did you listen to the Rhumba via xlr or rca?
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  • stangman67stangman67 Posts: 773
    edited April 7
    I happen to absolutely love my rhumba 1.1. Can’t compare to Cary but I’m not sure I ever will need anything else
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  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,519
    Excellent write up.

    Amazing little pre that SLP98.

    I had a couple of versions (regular then F1) in teh past, but once I got a hold of the Cary 05, I never really wanted more.

    You may want to try the 05 someday
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,042
    Maybe you just haven't found the right tubes for your tastes in that Rhumba. Tube rolling certainly makes a difference in anything tubed. I might try a few other combinations before parting ways.

    The Cary is no slouch on it's own merits. I could live with either pre. To me, both these pre's are somewhat of a sideways comparison. If looking to better the 98, you'd have to step up the game plan.
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  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,479
    erniejade wrote: »
    Strange question, did you listen to the Rhumba via xlr or rca?

    RCAs, but I'm looking at balanced cables and may get a chance to try that soon ...
    tonyb wrote: »
    Maybe you just haven't found the right tubes for your tastes in that Rhumba. I might try a few other combinations before parting ways.

    If looking to better the 98, you'd have to step up the game plan.

    I'll be trying a couple of variants that I just acquired from Andy at Vintage Tube Svcs. I never really was wanting to change-up the pre (with the exception of me thinking I need XLR connections)
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  • mikeyb128mikeyb128 Posts: 2,723
    I’m not totally convinced Balanced connections are required. I played around this weekend and was swapping in XLR vs RCA and the only thing I could detect was a change in gain, and maybe a lower noise floor? But could have been my imagination. I think a properly designed RCA will sound just as good as XLR connections, with the exception of long runs. I’ve also noticed a lot of high end preamps have only unbalanced connections.
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  • JuanRJuanR Posts: 679
    Wonder how the Joule Electra stacks up against the Cary or Rhumba...
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,054
    The joule has a bit more bloom over the Rhumba but the Rhumba was tighter and a hair more on top. Both were darm good.
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,694
    edited April 9
    It's hard comparing tube components if you aren't using the same tube compliment. Tubes can have a profound effect on the final sound. I can make my pre sound ordinary or extraordinary just by tube rolling.

    Comparing 6SN7; 12AU7; 5751 and 6350 tubes vary widely. It's not an apples to apples comparison if the pieces compared are using widely different tubes.

    That's always something to keep in mind when reading comparisons of tube components.

    But if you are familiar with all units and know what tube compliment you like best for each component and then comparing your single favorite iteration of each. Maybe that would be helpful.

    I've never really compared my tube components directly. Just found what works best and I've been lucky that each step up I've made has been an improvement. That's not always the case and in many cases it can be directly related to tube choice.

    Just my .02c and food for thought.

    H9

    P.s. Tube rectified vs. non-tube rectified is another very big difference in sound.
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  • MrBuhlMrBuhl Posts: 2,273
    Regardless of the outcome of the test ^^THAT^^ is great customer service you don't see much anymore. Good on you Andy & Backert.
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  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,054
    @GlennDog That is amazing customer service!
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  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,479
    it sounds like your unit may have taken some hits and should be looked at. We'd like to bring it into the shop for a once over. Would that be OK?
    -Andy

    Absolutely! I'll take you up on that ... Thanks!
    erniejade wrote: »
    @GlennDog That is amazing customer service!

    Sho-nuff, Brian! Unsolicited service request. Outstanding offer . . .

    A little more back-story . . .
    This unit was manufactured in April 2017. I bought it locally on the 'Gon in February 2018.
    The seller was a nice guy and knew his stuff. The impression I got, was that he rotates pieces like a revolving door. So that explains his short time with the Rhumba.
    It turns out I'm the 3rd owner in less than a year. Seems high to me, but a non-issue.

    The unit works well and looks clean, sans for a bent toggle switch. The bent toggle is probably a common thing bc the plastic shipping wrapping on the pre specifically states "Use care when removing bag past knobs and switches."
    Dare I say, men don't read instructions?!?! lol
    I was able to gently bend the toggle closer to it's original position.

    I'll update as things progress.

    Thanks again Bob & Andy!
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    Pre Cary SLP-98 Hot Rod
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Source Oppo 105
    PS Audio AC-12
    Wires MIT S3.3
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,694
    Awesome!
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • stangman67stangman67 Posts: 773
    And this explains exactly why I purchased from Backert! American made and fantastic support!
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  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,479
    Quick update.
    Communication with Andy at Backert Labs has been top notch, always Johnny On The Spot.
    I hesitated to put any $$ into this pre, but I've decided to, so I've upgraded to the Mundorfs and other cap upgrades

    From BL site:
    "The Mundorf caps give the unit more resolution in the midrange. Just a more clear light shining on those key mid frequencies.

    Better caps throughout gives the unit more clear and deeper sound. Maybe a little more bass but mostly clarity and depth."


    I've also decided to replace the black front apron with silver . . . and the black chassis with the "red" offering

    Here's a sneak peak as to what she'll look like . . . I Like red. Redheads, too!

    https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis8ihb0-backert-labs-rhumba-1-2-tube-preamp-preamplifier-tube

    ETA to my door is next weekend, give or take.

    Thoughts to follow after she's broken-in

    G
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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,602
    Looking forward to it!!!

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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,490
    MMmmmmm.... Mundorf. Francesco uses those in his speakers and they are mightily fine. Be forewarned that they take several hundred hours to break in, depending on which he used.
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  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,519
    Even out the playing field and send out the cary for upgrade
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,479
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Even out the playing field and send out the cary for upgrade

    In full disclosure, I failed to include in my initial "non-audiophile review" that the SLP-98 had been sent to Cary for hot rodding. My bad :(
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    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Source Oppo 105
    PS Audio AC-12
    Wires MIT S3.3
  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,519
    I think they have mundorf upgrades available

    I am contemplating sending my 05 for the ultimate upgrade

    Maybe when I have extra play money
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,042
    GlennDog wrote: »
    it sounds like your unit may have taken some hits and should be looked at. We'd like to bring it into the shop for a once over. Would that be OK?
    -Andy

    Absolutely! I'll take you up on that ... Thanks!
    erniejade wrote: »
    @GlennDog That is amazing customer service!

    Sho-nuff, Brian! Unsolicited service request. Outstanding offer . . .

    A little more back-story . . .
    This unit was manufactured in April 2017. I bought it locally on the 'Gon in February 2018.
    The seller was a nice guy and knew his stuff. The impression I got, was that he rotates pieces like a revolving door. So that explains his short time with the Rhumba.
    It turns out I'm the 3rd owner in less than a year. Seems high to me, but a non-issue.

    The unit works well and looks clean, sans for a bent toggle switch. The bent toggle is probably a common thing bc the plastic shipping wrapping on the pre specifically states "Use care when removing bag past knobs and switches."
    Dare I say, men don't read instructions?!?! lol
    I was able to gently bend the toggle closer to it's original position.

    I'll update as things progress.

    Thanks again Bob & Andy!

    This is why I will always recommend BL as the people down there, as well as behind the scenes, are customer based in their thoughts. This is the type of company we all wish others would be, a blast from the past when customer service was a top priority .

    Take Andy up on his offer, they take great pride in their products and you being happy with them.
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    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,479
    Joey_V wrote: »
    I think they have mundorf upgrades available

    I am contemplating sending my 05 for the ultimate upgrade

    Maybe when I have extra play money

    Dude, that’s nonnegotiable… Just do it!
    Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
    PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Rears Definitive Technology BP-2
    Center Definitive Technology C-1
    Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
    Pre Cary SLP-98 Hot Rod
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Source Oppo 105
    PS Audio AC-12
    Wires MIT S3.3
  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,519
    GlennDog wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    I think they have mundorf upgrades available

    I am contemplating sending my 05 for the ultimate upgrade

    Maybe when I have extra play money

    Dude, that’s nonnegotiable… Just do it!

    Oh buddy it’s always negotiable here hahaha
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,479
    tonyb wrote: »

    This is why I will always recommend BL as the people down there, as well as behind the scenes, are customer based in their thoughts. This is the type of company we all wish others would be, a blast from the past when customer service was a top priority

    Folks at BL genuinely seem to want to get it right . . .
    Between the requested upgrades and tweeks, there's been an in-house break-in process.
    I've got a warm fuzzy feeling. Great CS!
    The pre is being shipped in the AM.
    I'm looking forward to the new look and the new and improved SQ . . .
    Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
    PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Rears Definitive Technology BP-2
    Center Definitive Technology C-1
    Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
    Pre Cary SLP-98 Hot Rod
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Source Oppo 105
    PS Audio AC-12
    Wires MIT S3.3
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,042
    Cool man, post up your thoughts once it hits your ears. Great bunch over at BL.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,479
    edited June 14
    I won’t get a chance to hook it up till late this weekend ...
    but here’s a sneak peek
    First thing that comes to mind is “2 brothers from other mothers!”

    Just to be clear, coloring is heavily dependent on lighting

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    Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
    PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Rears Definitive Technology BP-2
    Center Definitive Technology C-1
    Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
    Pre Cary SLP-98 Hot Rod
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Source Oppo 105
    PS Audio AC-12
    Wires MIT S3.3
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