Meridian Director USB DAC

ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
I just ordered the Meridian Director USB DAC, for use on my PC audio setup. I required something that was physically small, and preferably USB powered.

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Up to 24-bit, 192kHz digital to analogue conversion.

-Meridian Resolution Enhancement technologies
including upsampling and apodising filters.

-16–24 bit 44.1/48kHz inputs upsampled to 24-bit,
88.2/96kHz.

-Takes digital audio from USB, Optical and Coax S/
PDIF.

-Durable, elegant anodised metal enclosure.

-Separate crystal oscillators for 44.1Hz and 48kHz-
based sample rates for minimal jitter and improved
performance.

-Music grade power supply capacitors.

-Direct-coupled, fixed output for connection to an
audio system or powered loudspeakers.

-4-layer PC board minimises noise and improves
performance.



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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    Well, I for one am pretty excited about it! :lol:

    I expected comments of "Why no DSD!? Why no MQA!?" by now. You guys are letting me down!
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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 4,429
    Why no DSD!? Why no MQA!?
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    Self Control is over rated.
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Meh these were extra $70 as an open box item so it didn’t much to me either way:)

  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 4,429
    Why no Micro iDSD Black Label USB DAC and Headphone Amplifier?
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    Self Control is over rated.
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Meh these were extra $70 as an open box item so it didn’t much to me either way:)

  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    That iFi is a nice unit! I simply don't need the headphone amp as I already have a Schiit Asgard 2. And I only really listen to 16/44.4 so the high rez stuff is lost on me.

    So, the Meridian Director fit my bizarre aesthetic and needs. It's discontinued so they're selling them for $350. I think they originally went for $700 years ago.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    Why no Micro iDSD Black Label USB DAC and Headphone Amplifier?

    There we go! That's more like it!
    afterburnt wrote: »
    Why no DSD!? Why no MQA!?

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    Got my Meridian "Direct" (what it's actually labeled as) DAC today, currently auditioning it with some 320s in Winamp using the Maiko WASAPI plugin for bit perfect playback.

    Fit and finish of the packaging and the unit itself are top notch. Nice unboxing experience. Great quality RCA jacks. Unit has a pleasing brushed metal texture to it. Feels like "quality".

    Also noticed that it's actually made in England, not China! Interesting!

    Initial listening impressions on the few tracks I've tried so far:

    1.) More extension and clarity in the treble. I thought these Polk Audio Blackstone TL3 speakers were a little laid back on the high end due to the ring radiator. This has brightened them up, which isn't a bad thing, in my opinion. I may have just gotten lucky on synergy here, because it added in a brightness that I had with my previous Klipsch satellites.

    I tend to prefer something a little bright for nearfield listening, just my personal preference. It's very possible that this is just the fact that it has zero hours on it, and may mellow out over time.

    2.) Increased vertical soundstaging and sweet spot. My motherboard's onboard sound (122db s/n ratio, Japanese audio caps, etc) presented a decent stereo image, but the additional height from the Meridian Direct is one of the first things I noticed.

    3.) Increased bass slam. Didn't touch my subwoofer gain knob, but I'm noticing more impact in the bass.

    That's it for now, will post more listening impressions in the future!
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  • msgmsg Posts: 4,266
    It gots nice bits.
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 4,429
    320s ?
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    Self Control is over rated.
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Meh these were extra $70 as an open box item so it didn’t much to me either way:)

  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    edited March 9
    Yep.

    Not my pic:

    Download-YouTube-to-Mp3-The-Best-ClipConverter-Alternative-sites-with-320Kbps-Quality-01a.png

    afterburnt wrote: »
    320s ?

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    edited March 9
    So far all the bits are nice, but I'm listening for any static clicks/pops and/or dropouts.
    msg wrote: »
    It gots nice bits.

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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 4,429
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Yep.

    Not my pic:

    Download-YouTube-to-Mp3-The-Best-ClipConverter-Alternative-sites-with-320Kbps-Quality-01a.png

    afterburnt wrote: »
    320s ?

    Say it ain't so...Joe?
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    Self Control is over rated.
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Meh these were extra $70 as an open box item so it didn’t much to me either way:)

  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    edited March 9
    Kindly move on then, don't critique my choice of source.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    Say it ain't so...Joe?

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    So, I have some more thoughts to share after listening for several hours.

    When listening, I was experiencing a sensation in the sound, specifically the highs, that I can only describe as some sort of "phase shift". It wasn't pleasurable to me, and I felt like it was fatiguing to my ears.

    I kept trying to figure out why it sounded like the staging of the upper midrange and highs was shifted up and out from where it was on the previous DAC.

    I wasn't sure if this was due to the "apodizing filter" or the upsampling in this unit. I did a quick search for "apodizing filter" and found this post: https://mrapodizer.wordpress.com/2011/08/16/technical-analysis-of-the-meridian-apodizing-filter/

    It's especially poignant, and almost exactly describes the sensation that I get when I listen with this DAC:

    "The difference between the old and new filters is clearly not in the amplitude response, but in the phase behavior: the old filter is linear to 22kHz, but the new filter has a gradually increasing phase shift that increases with the frequency. This is caused by the minimal phase behavior of the filter. Although the resolution of the picture is not high enough to see, the phase shift starts already from the lowest frequency and increases more as the frequency goes up (logarithmic).

    So the absence of the pre-echo comes at the cost of an increasing phase shift across the entire frequency range. People may argue that the shift is only small, and this may be good enough for normal audio applications, but for high-end it seems a serious issue. For one the human brain uses phase information of frequencies up to 3kHz for spacial localization. The inner ear itself has an amplification around 3kHz, which makes the ear most sensitive in the 2 to 5 kHz range (for human speech). And the most important one, instruments and voices are not just limited to a single frequency, they operate on a range. For instance drums even operate on the entire range from low to high. Every frequency component of the sound will get a different shift in time with this filter, it is like smearing the sound over the frequency range, with lows first and highs last. This might also explain why the lows are more pronounced."

    If this is accurate in terms of the filter that Meridian is using, then perhaps this isn't the DAC for me. I did not like the sensation that I felt in my ears while listening! Interestingly, I asked my wife what she thought of the sound and she had nothing but positive things to say. She liked it very much and thought it sounded great.

    Guess I'm just more sensitive to this particular aural sensation.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    Another post that again almost EXACTLY describes the sensation I felt in my ears.
    https://mrapodizer.wordpress.com/2011/08/14/meridian-apodizing-filter-a-review/

    "My own experience with the apodizing filter: the advantages are pretty clear from the start, pin point imaging and spacious at the same time. Unfortunately I also noticed some disadvantages. The main problem is that I got a feeling of pressure on my ears which made listening uncomfortable. Also I found the sound to be dull or boring, and I ended up playing 6dB louder than I am used to. I suspect the pressure on my ears killed the highs, so I compensated for that. Another remarkable issue was that the sound was not natural when being not in the sweet spot, for instance when I was just walking through the room. A final remark is that I found the bass to be pronounced too much, this also adds to the unnatural feeling the filter gives."
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  • verbverb Posts: 2,990
    Interesting review. And my introduction to Mr. Apodizer! How do you correlate the ever increasing phase shift to increased pressure in your ears?
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    I have no idea. It's obviously not a physical pressure, but a sensation that causes the ear to have the same feeling/response as if physical/atmospheric pressure were being applied.

    I'm listening again right now so I'll see if it happens again.
    verb wrote: »
    Interesting review. And my introduction to Mr. Apodizer! How do you correlate the ever increasing phase shift to increased pressure in your ears?

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    Alright, so after listening to the meridian again for a while, I just switched back to the onboard sound and played the same songs.

    While the soundstage width and height shrunk, and the music sounded more localized to the actual speakers, I'm not getting that strange pressure sensation in my ears.

    It's easier for me to listen to again - much more enjoyable.

    Well, that was a quick audition, the Meridian will be getting returned.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    Also, further proof that everyone hears things differently, when I went back to the onboard sound, my wife said "Now it sounds like I have cotton stuffed in my ears!" :lol:
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  • verbverb Posts: 2,990
    Well I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger! Great review @Clipdat !
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    Thanks. YMMV. Like my wife, you might have really enjoyed the sound and found it flawless. Apparently some people like me are more sensitive to filters/upsampling, etc, etc.

    If anything, this experience has helped solidify the characteristics in a piece of gear that sound "good" to me.

    What DAC are you using now on your computer rig?
    verb wrote: »
    Well I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger! Great review @Clipdat !

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  • verbverb Posts: 2,990
    Just the stock MB audio outputs. I'll have to check the documentation now!
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    Depending on the make/model and age of the board, it may have a very capable chipset. A lot of the "gaming" style motherboards started putting a lot more thought into their implementations in recent years. Such as physically isolating the audio portion of the PCB, and the inclusion of high quality op amps and capacitors.
    verb wrote: »
    Just the stock MB audio outputs. I'll have to check the documentation now!

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  • verbverb Posts: 2,990
    Yep. My office rig is a micro-ITX MB. Pretty small, barely enough room to squeeze a video card in there! You got me curious though. I definitely want to upgrade my audio on this box. Logitech speakers say goodbye!
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    Office: PC, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    I'm using a mini ITX board currently: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130972

    What model # Logitech speakers are you using?
    verb wrote: »
    Yep. My office rig is a micro-ITX MB. Pretty small, barely enough room to squeeze a video card in there! You got me curious though. I definitely want to upgrade my audio on this box. Logitech speakers say goodbye!

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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,833
    Why on Earth would someone spend $350 to listen to 320kbps MP3's? That's crazy. My guess is the Meridian brought to the forefront the flaws of the source material and it was unpleasant. MP3's are unpleasant.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    Definition of threadshitting right here folks.
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Why on Earth would someone spend $350 to listen to 320kbps MP3's? That's crazy. My guess is the Meridian brought to the forefront the flaws of the source material and it was unpleasant. MP3's are unpleasant.

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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 4,429
    Question + opinion = threadshitting. Wrong.
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    Headgear: Sennheiser HD 558*Audio-Technica ATH-M40x*Sennheiser HD 598 Cs*Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7*Philips SHP9500S* Sennheiser 6xx

    Hello Kitty boombox

    Spare sortta: Usher N-6361* ifi iDsd nano*Marantz 1504* RX-A1040*Emotiva XPA-1L Gen2 X2*Emotiva XPA-3 Gen2*CSiA6 Center*Monitor40 Series II*SVS PB1000 Sub*Sony BDPS6500 Blu-ray player*POS 37" LCD*Douglas Connection Furez 12 AWG 2 Conductor*Blue Jeans Cable LC-1's IC's*Samsung BD-H5900 3D Blu-Ray*Usher N-6361


    Self Control is over rated.
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Meh these were extra $70 as an open box item so it didn’t much to me either way:)

  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,092
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    "Making unhelpful, rude, uninformed posts in another's thread or detracting from the normally intelligent and civilized discourse is considered threadshitting."

    @heiney9 did you miss the post up above where I said "Kindly move on then, don't critique my choice of source."?
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  • stangman67stangman67 Posts: 780
    I don’t think his post meets any of that criteria. His point is true, typical audiophile equipment is not aimed to use with relativity poor sources. It shouldn’t be surprising when good equipment reacts poorly to bad source material
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,528
    edited March 10
    The title of this thread isn't "Let's discuss mp3 vs. flac vs. wav". It's a DAC review.

    Critiquing and criticizing my source of choice, and then implying that I'm mentally deranged, demented or insane meets the above listed definition as making posts that are unhelpful, rude, or uninformed.
    stangman67 wrote: »
    I don’t think his post meets any of that criteria. His point is true, typical audiophile equipment is not aimed to use with relativity poor sources. It shouldn’t be surprising when good equipment reacts poorly to bad source material

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