What’s wrong with monster cables?
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Ha, must have not been used to people putting up a fight!
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Can't tell if the wire inside is green because the cable isn't clear!mlistens03 wrote: »The green cable issue, sorry I should have specified that
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Oh true, didn’t think about that. Do you think it is likely? I don’t want to damage my subwoofer and amplifiers as I am using their rca cables
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I doubt it. The insulation and jacket for line level cables is usually more robust.mlistens03 wrote: »Oh true, didn’t think about that. Do you think it is likely? I don’t want to damage my subwoofer and amplifiers as I am using their rca cables
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Ok good. I was all of the sudden very nervous when I realized I was using older monster line level cables for my connections from my AVR to my amplifier, or to subwoofers, or the like, but I feel a little safer about using them now.
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I think you would be impressed at the audible difference in going away from Monster and toward Blue Jeans or Signal Cable.mlistens03 wrote: »Ok good. I was all of the sudden very nervous when I realized I was using older monster line level cables for my connections from my AVR to my amplifier, or to subwoofers, or the like, but I feel a little safer about using them now.
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Check out our own Douglas Connections, he's a straight shooter and he offers a discount to forum members.
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How much do the Douglas cables cost? I am seriously thinking about getting some blue jeans cable, but if that is so much better, than maybe it’s worth it.
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Douglas connections, not cables sorry
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My bad, I had read the OP's earlier post concerning his budget but then spaced.
To attempt to answer the question about Doug's prices - it varies he sells a wide variety of product - raw wire to a variety of his own cables with a variety of wire and terminations - you'd have to call him or check his website. I was thinking raw Furez is inexpensive by the foot and maybe some raw Furutech wire as well, kinda depends on where you are going with this and how good you are at DIY, etc. You'll have to give this whole issue some serious consideration but I can tell you Doug is a very honest fellow. -
Ok, can you give me a link to his website?
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"Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light
a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -
Thanks
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Yeah that is unfortunately a little out of my price range,so I’m gonna stick with the blue jeans cable or signal cable.
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how long of cables do you need?
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I already have banana plugs, so I’m probably just going to buy 50 feet of cable with bare ends, never can have too much extra
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This isn’t too much, right? -
mlistens03 wrote: »
This isn’t too much, right?
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something to think about. You can take the two reds and two whites twist them together for two channel. this works very well for inexpensive cable. In fact this brand is what Signal cable makes their speaker cables out of. Signal ultra uses two runs of 4s8 per side and puts it in techflex covering.
http://store.haveinc.com/p-49380-canare-4s11-starquad-speaker-cable-14-awg-cut.aspx
http://store.haveinc.com/p-49385-canare-4s8-starquad-speaker-cable-16-awg-cut.aspx -
Hmm, I might try that. Kind of like biwiring, but without putting the cables into different binding posts, right? But it wouldn’t be in a fancy covering, sorry to disappoint
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The "green wire" problem is caused by hydrochloric acid -- either residual in or, more likely, due to the environmental degradation of -- the polyvinylchloride (PVC) jacket used in some speaker cables.
Other polymers are less likely to have that problem (although they may have others) -- PVC isn't a great choice for an insulator, anyway (IMO), but it is cheap.
As to Monster's "interconnects" (we used to call 'em "patch cords" or just "wires", but
what did we know, like, fifty years ago?) -- hifi peer pressure made me abandon mine
-- although, since I found mine at the local (Harvard, MA) town dump, I never felt all that bad about them. The "death grip" comment above is apt (i.e., be careful, especially on lower-end/mass market components that are equipped with cheap, flimsy female "RCA" jacks)!
DSC_0586 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
As to Mr. Noel "Monster" Lee's business practices -- google and see.
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I did google about mr. Monsters practices, and I’d say they are quite questionable.
I think that I did lose a female rca jack on a cheap white van sub once, but I was gonna blow it anyways so I didn’t care
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This "as found" Marantz integrated was missing the outer metal (shield) connection on both RCA jacks on the "CD" input. Almost certainly a victim of Monstrosity, methinks.
Marantz PD25 6 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
(note the "black" stubs where the CD input jacks should be)
The nice thing was - it was on the "free" pile at a NEARC swapfest one spring, and
(other than that little issue with the two jacks) was in perfect working order.
Marantz PD25 7 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
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mlistens03 wrote: »I think that I did lose a female rca jack on a cheap white van sub once, but I was gonna blow it anyways so I didn’t care
Can't do it, too easy.... -
ken brydson wrote: »mlistens03 wrote: »I think that I did lose a female rca jack on a cheap white van sub once, but I was gonna blow it anyways so I didn’t care
Can't do it, too easy....
Do it before @Viking64 does!
Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, Antique Sound Labs AV8 Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated Amp, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Rotel RCD-1072 CD player, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
Garage #1: Cambridge Audio 640A Integrated Amp, Project Box-E BT Streamer, Polk Tsi200 Bookies, Douglas Speaker Cables, Shunyata Power Conditioner
Garage #2: Cambridge Audio EVO150 Integrated Amplifier, Polk L200's, Analysis Plus Silver Oval 2 Speaker Cables, IC's TBD. -
just say no to blow, Joe.
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Nice find on that Marantz for sure, it has enough other inputs that I don’t think it would be a problem (at least for me)ken brydson wrote: »mlistens03 wrote: »I think that I did lose a female rca jack on a cheap white van sub once, but I was gonna blow it anyways so I didn’t care
Can't do it, too easy....
Walked right into that one, huh? -
ken brydson wrote: »mlistens03 wrote: »I think that I did lose a female rca jack on a cheap white van sub once, but I was gonna blow it anyways so I didn’t care
Can't do it, too easy....
Do it before @Viking64 does!
He takes the low hanging fruit...
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I see butthurtz still abounds around this place.
