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  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 384
    Last thing was to install spikes bought here:
    https://meniscusaudio.com/product/mirror-image-pts-gold/
    I started by removing the plastic feet on the bottom cap. Then I drilled a 7/32" hole, sprayed a little water in it, added a drop of Guerilla glue, then screwed in the stud. This anchors them in solid. cqqel85fewl3.jpeg
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,973
    Any glue that foams creating air bubbles in it cannot make a good bond. Throw that stuff away and next time try 5 minute epoxy.

    The spikes do look good.
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  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 384
    The expansion actually allows it to penetrate the pores in the wood and fill any gaps in the studs' threads. I've used this stuff on a boat I restored and it is wicked strong. Epoxy would have been a PITA because I needed such a small amount in each hole. I may use epoxy to anchor the spike bases to the cap though. Haven't decided if that's necessary yet.

    I like these spikes because you can tilt the speakers back and unscrew the points, get placement dialed in, then reinstall.
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    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 10,219
    edited February 12
    On similar speaker bottoms I have just ran a bolt/washer through from inside the cabinet and tightened down good and tight on the same spikes. I buy mine in 1/4" x 20tpi pattern and just buy some new bolts instead of the threaded rod sent with.
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 384
    verb wrote: »
    Hey I noticed you put some dynamat on the brace in between the MW's. Never seen that before. Is that recommended?

    I tapped along the cabinet area looking for potential resonance points and found that and in the center of the 4 drivers as questionable. May have been unnecessary but WTH. Can't hurt right??? :#
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    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 384
    Well finally got my crossovers back from @westmassguy and after getting them hooked up correctly... (Thanks Dave. What would we do without you) I've been running them low volume 24/7 to burn in the new components and the dreadnaught. First impressions are VERY good! I'm noticing things like the ring of piano keys sounding like the piano is in the living room with me. I know how this sounds because, up until recently, there was a piano in here. Details in strings and drums are present now. I wasn't alone during my initial audition but I actually had to turn it down on the first track of Spin Doctors - Pocket Full of Kryptonite because everyone, including myself, jumped. These put out more sound than the Klipsch KG4's I replaced them with! Hopefully this weekend I can give them a more thorough review.

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    SDA 1C's
    B&K Reference 50 Pre
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,597
    What do ya have on the RH wall under cover? Looks like it could be a motorcycle? Only asking because many years ago I keep my brand new 1978 Triumph Bonneville in the kitchen.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk Signature S60's;Cables: Wireworld Eclipse IC; Audioquest Big Sur IC; Zu Audio Mission speaker cables; PS Audio AC-3 power cords, all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    All TV's sound enhanced by Polk Magnfi Mini's.

    Other; SDA2BTL's, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage.

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 2,796
    What do ya have on the RH wall under cover? Looks like it could be a motorcycle? Only asking because many years ago I keep my brand new 1978 Triumph Bonneville in the kitchen.

    I used to keep my brand new 1978 Pontiac Bonneville in the kitchen.

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  • westmassguywestmassguy Posts: 6,064
    audioluvr wrote: »
    Well finally got my crossovers back from @westmassguy and after getting them hooked up correctly... (Thanks Dave. What would we do without you) I've been running them low volume 24/7 to burn in the new components and the dreadnaught. First impressions are VERY good! I'm noticing things like the ring of piano keys sounding like the piano is in the living room with me. I know how this sounds because, up until recently, there was a piano in here. Details in strings and drums are present now. I wasn't alone during my initial audition but I actually had to turn it down on the first track of Spin Doctors - Pocket Full of Kryptonite because everyone, including myself, jumped. These put out more sound than the Klipsch KG4's I replaced them with! Hopefully this weekend I can give them a more thorough review.

    epl1hi6tmmbt.jpg

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  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 384
    edited March 14
    What do ya have on the RH wall under cover? Looks like it could be a motorcycle? Only asking because many years ago I keep my brand new 1978 Triumph Bonneville in the kitchen.

    It's a Keyston Saddle.
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  • dpowelldpowell Posts: 2,757
    F1nut wrote: »
    The Dreadnought will allow you to use any non-common ground amp including mono blocks. The sound is vastly improved using the Dreadnought even with common ground amps.
    Guess I need to get off my lazy azz and get to building mine...

    Yes you do John! ;)
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  • zuulzuul Posts: 243
    F1nut wrote: »
    You have the SDA's too far apart. Try 6 to 8 feet.

    Because I've heard just about every SS Carver amp made and they are lacking what better amps bring to the table. Since it appears you haven't tried any other amps since 1987 I can understand that you wouldn't know how lacking your Carver is.

    Now, when it comes to Carver tube amps, they are world class.

    I"ve had both a .05 and 1.0 Carver amp (very popular up here in the pacific northwest) and had them hooked up to my Polk 5jr+'s. I didn't keep either too long b/c neither really had any boom. If you want to go the cheap audiophile route NAD power amps are still a great deal. The 270's are usually a couple hundred bucks. the MOSFET era Adcom amps are pretty much bulletproof and cheap. I wouldn't get anything lower than 5300 but i see those for around 100 bucks all the time. The NAD 270's are a bit more $ but also a bit more refined than the Adcom's. I'm sure others in this forum would have equally appealing cheap power amp suggestions... If after trying some new gear you still love the carver's you're not going to lose any $ reselling the stuff you bought to try out. For me half the fun of this hobby is the hunt for new gear... even if i don't end up keeping it.
    speakers:
    bowers & wilkins 685 S2
    polk psw-10
    components:
    sonic frontiers line 1 preamp
    sonic frontiers anthem amp 1
    mac mini w/ audioquest jitterbug
    teac ud-501 digital to analog converter
    oppo dv-980h dvd/cd
    interconnects:
    guzi rca
    monoprice onix series digital coaxial
    transparent performance USB
    transparent perfect image HDMI
    speaker wire
    audioquest type 4
    power:
    rhino-tek 1000w 15amp voltage regulator
    vansevers 211 power cord
    pangea ac-14 power cord
    tubes:
    amplifier: (2) NOS 1960 philco/lansdale 12AU7 (super rare!), (1) NOS 1967 mullard 12AX7, (4) 2016 svetlana hard blue EL-34
    pre-amp: (6) E88CC/6922 ??? (haven't cracked the case yet to see what previous owner was running...) so for now they are mystery tubes.
    misc:
    JRiver Media Center 24
    sanus 24" speaker stands
    auralex acoustics subdude II
    DeMoude Audio cylindrical bass traps
    rf/emi/noise reduction caps for empty rca inputs.
    Hall of Fame: [retired/sold]
    polk monitor series 5jr+ w/ RDO194-1 upgraded tweeters
    polk monitor series RTA 8T
    kenwood kd-550 w/ SME 3009 Series III tonearm grado gold cartridge
    adcom gfp-555II
    marantz 2238b
    luxman M-120A
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  • SDA1CSDA1C Posts: 2,050
    F1nut wrote: »
    What do ya know, I was right again. After you upgrade the 1C's think about moving to something other than Carver SS power, you'll thank me.

    As arrogant as ever. Love your knowledge Jesse...You and heind end hang out often? Lol
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  • verbverb Posts: 2,732
    edited March 20
    I too went down the Carver path. Had 2 M1.0t's, moved to a TFM35x, and with a little enabling and tutelage from Polkies here went down the rabbit hole with a Conrad Johnson MF2300A. All I can say is wow! What a difference!

    And yes, @F1nut Father Jesse was right! :smile:
    Post edited by verb on
    Basement: Polk SDA 1C's, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, Rotel 1580 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Carver TX8 Tuner, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Cables
    Office: PC, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 2,796
    verb wrote: »
    I took went down

    HAHAHA That reminds me of the SCTV skit about the "Western Redundancy Playhouse Theater" where the actors say things two ways, like is common in many old westerns in an attempt to sound more "western", I suppose. :p

    "Hey wife-woman. Git-hop into the kitchen-pantry and fix-cook-up a heaping-mess of food-vittles for that baby-child."
  • verbverb Posts: 2,732
    Viking64 wrote: »
    verb wrote: »
    I took went down

    HAHAHA That reminds me of the SCTV skit about the "Western Redundancy Playhouse Theater" where the actors say things two ways, like is common in many old westerns in an attempt to sound more "western", I suppose. :p

    "Hey wife-woman. Git-hop into the kitchen-pantry and fix-cook-up a heaping-mess of food-vittles for that baby-child."

    Foiled again! Got me Jimmy! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA 1C's, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, Rotel 1580 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Carver TX8 Tuner, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Cables
    Office: PC, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 2,796
    verb wrote: »
    Foiled again! Got me Jimmy! :smile:

    When I'm editing, I constantly see remnants of ideas and phrases that didn't quite get deleted. Trust me. You are in excellent company. :)
  • verbverb Posts: 2,732
    Viking64 wrote: »
    verb wrote: »
    Foiled again! Got me Jimmy! :smile:

    When I'm editing, I constantly see remnants of ideas and phrases that didn't quite get deleted. Trust me. You are in excellent company. :)

    I just wanted to see if you were still out there! Yeah right. :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA 1C's, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, Rotel 1580 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Carver TX8 Tuner, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Cables
    Office: PC, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 384
    verb wrote: »
    I too went down the Carver path. Had 2 M1.0t's, moved to a TFM35x, and with a little enabling and tutelage from Polkies here went down the rabbit hole with a Conrad Johnson MF2300A. All I can say is wow! What a difference!

    Ya, ya, ya. Maybe I'm not playing my music loud enough... Since having my 1.0 rebuild done, there is a HUGE improvement from how it sounded prior. BUT. You rotten bastadges are making me look. Damn it! Just really hesitant to spend without doing an A/B comparison. There is an Aragon 8008BB and a Sonic Frontiers SFS80 that I have been eyeing...
    SDA 1C's
    B&K Reference 50 Pre
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 384
    Viking64 wrote: »
    HAHAHA That reminds me of the SCTV skit..

    GOD do I miss SCTV. They just don't make TV like that anymore
    SDA 1C's
    B&K Reference 50 Pre
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
  • verbverb Posts: 2,732
    Hehe. Are you gonna make @f1nut proclaim he is RIGHT once again? Lordy help us!
    Basement: Polk SDA 1C's, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, Rotel 1580 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Carver TX8 Tuner, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Cables
    Office: PC, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 384
    verb wrote: »
    Hehe. Are you gonna make @f1nut proclaim he is RIGHT once again? Lordy help us!

    That's beneath him...
    SDA 1C's
    B&K Reference 50 Pre
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
  • SchurkeySchurkey Posts: 1,766
    audioluvr wrote: »
    There is an Aragon 8008BB and a Sonic Frontiers SFS80 that I have been eyeing...
    The 8008 will require a jumper wire across the negative terminals, or an isolation transformer (Dreadnaught) in the SDA cable, to overcome the 20-ohm resistance preventing "true" common-ground of the negative terminals.

    Aside from that...very recommended.
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 384
    Dreadnaught... Got one!
    SDA 1C's
    B&K Reference 50 Pre
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
  • zuulzuul Posts: 243
    audioluvr wrote: »
    a Sonic Frontiers SFS80 that I have been eyeing...

    i have sonic frontiers pre and power amps. you should pull the trigger on that. you'll never look back.

    promise.

    speakers:
    bowers & wilkins 685 S2
    polk psw-10
    components:
    sonic frontiers line 1 preamp
    sonic frontiers anthem amp 1
    mac mini w/ audioquest jitterbug
    teac ud-501 digital to analog converter
    oppo dv-980h dvd/cd
    interconnects:
    guzi rca
    monoprice onix series digital coaxial
    transparent performance USB
    transparent perfect image HDMI
    speaker wire
    audioquest type 4
    power:
    rhino-tek 1000w 15amp voltage regulator
    vansevers 211 power cord
    pangea ac-14 power cord
    tubes:
    amplifier: (2) NOS 1960 philco/lansdale 12AU7 (super rare!), (1) NOS 1967 mullard 12AX7, (4) 2016 svetlana hard blue EL-34
    pre-amp: (6) E88CC/6922 ??? (haven't cracked the case yet to see what previous owner was running...) so for now they are mystery tubes.
    misc:
    JRiver Media Center 24
    sanus 24" speaker stands
    auralex acoustics subdude II
    DeMoude Audio cylindrical bass traps
    rf/emi/noise reduction caps for empty rca inputs.
    Hall of Fame: [retired/sold]
    polk monitor series 5jr+ w/ RDO194-1 upgraded tweeters
    polk monitor series RTA 8T
    kenwood kd-550 w/ SME 3009 Series III tonearm grado gold cartridge
    adcom gfp-555II
    marantz 2238b
    luxman M-120A
    technics sl-b10
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 10,219
    edited March 24
    audioluvr wrote: »
    There is an Aragon 8008BB that I have been eyeing...

    Great amps the 8008 and 4004 series made by Mondial designs. I have not heard the newer amps by Klipsch or Indy audio designs.
    Mondial designs had others beside those two but they were much more expensive.

  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 384
    That's some seriously long reading...
    SDA 1C's
    B&K Reference 50 Pre
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
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