SDA 1.2TL Interconnect cable help

Hi everyone,
I'm a proud owner of the SDA 1.2TL ... again.
Had a pair years ago, sold them, missed them so much, bought another pair 10+ years later. After all these years, I've still not found any speakers that are better value for money.
I've had lots of speakers which haven been better ... but they've been things like the Genesis 350SE which are mega money.

This new pair of 1.2TL doesn't have the interconnect.
Initially I thought it was a standard 2 pin min, but turns out it's not. It looks the same but much bigger.
I've read you can just use an RCA cable with only the pin. I'll do this if I have to, but wondering if I can get the proper plug.
I've also read the other alternative is to replace the pin blade socket with a Neutrik Speakon connector. While this looks good, probably too time consuming for me at this stage.

Does anyone know if the original 'pin blade' plug is a standard size? If so, can these be bought somewhere?

Thanks
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    edited January 2018
    Ends cannot be bought aftermarket any where. The cables come up on eBay once in a while for close to 80-100 dollars.
    You have been given the only 2 choices you really have, unless someone wants to get off one or you would like to wait it out for one to show up on eBay.
  • FestYboy
    FestYboy Posts: 3,861
    Go Speakon, it's the better option.
  • puunda
    puunda Posts: 116
    Thanks for the reply guys.
    I was wanting to make sure the sockets were not a standard plug you can buy somewhere, and it looks like it's not.
    For now I'll use the RCA cable method, but going forward I will use the Speakon method.
    Will the speakon socket fit on the current round plastic plate? Or do I need replace it with another plate?
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    It will fit in the same location once you take the old out.
  • puunda
    puunda Posts: 116
    Just to confirm.
    The Neutrik/Speakon looks to have 4 connectors. Do I use all 4 and have 2 pairs connected together? or do I just use 2?
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,708
    Are you making a regular SDA cable or are you getting a Dreadnought?
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  • puunda
    puunda Posts: 116
    I was going to make a normal SDA cable. To replace the one which came with the speakers. Was going to get 2 x Neutrik NL4 sockets and a 5m NL4 cable.
    What is the Dreadnought?
  • FestYboy
    FestYboy Posts: 3,861
    Dreadnaught allows use of non-common ground, and monoblock amps. There are other benefits as well, but that's it's main job.
  • puunda
    puunda Posts: 116
    Right. I'm almost positive my amp is a common ground (Onkyo/Integra AVR), so will be using the normal cable. Have ordered 2 x Speakon sockets, a 5m Speakon cable (both 4 poles/wires), and 8 nicer looking binding posts. Will be an interesting project.
    Meanwhile will use a mutilated RCA cable for my SDA effects
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,708
    Not so fast. Using a Dreadnought with a common ground amp results in better sound than a regular SDA cable.

    You need to make sure the SpeakOn socket is airtight as not all are. The spec sheets on Neutrik's site have that info.

    I strongly suggest not using an AVR to drive those speakers as you'll never hear what they are capable of.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • puunda
    puunda Posts: 116
    So the Dreadnought can be used on both common ground and non commond ground amps? And that it makes it sound better? Why isn't everyone doing this?
  • FestYboy
    FestYboy Posts: 3,861
    $$$ and getting the proper transformer
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,708
    puunda wrote: »
    So the Dreadnought can be used on both common ground and non commond ground amps? And that it makes it sound better? Why isn't everyone doing this?

    A whole lot of people already have.

    Reasons others haven't:

    They don't know about it.
    Money
    Ignorance
    Think it has to be the special order 1000VA, when the standard 800VA is fine.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,084
    I've got an OEM pin/blade cable FS . . . PM me if interested
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    BOOM there you go...
  • puunda
    puunda Posts: 116
    Had a chat with GlennDog, and it looks like the shipping to Australia will be too prohibitive. So back to the original plan of using RCA until I can upgrade to Speakon (parts ordered), and eventually Dreadnought.
  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,050
    The dreadnought took my SDA's to a whole new level. Watch the forum for future special group orders of the 1000VA transformer coordinated with toolfan machining the cases at the same time. Until that happens, do all the other recommended mods.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    I doubt we will ever get the required amount to special order again but gosh it would be nice to get one.
  • If a special order happens i would be game!!!!!!!
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  • puunda
    puunda Posts: 116
    I've been searching for the dreadnought but not really found any solid instructions. From what I can tell you can the 800va transformer, but the 1000VA is the better one, but it's not available? I'm assuming this is a special transformer? Does someone have a link to the info or instructions to this?
    Meanwhile I'm using an RCA cable, which is working well.
    I've ordered 2 Speakon connectors and a Speakon cable, as well as some fancy insulated banana terminals. Will put those in when they arrive.
  • monepolk
    monepolk Posts: 1,140
    Sounds like you have 2 maybe 3 people. That's a nice start. Might be time to start a thread.
  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    In as well

    I’m in!
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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,420
    edited February 2018
    I would have but I just bought the AL -906 so I'm going to put that together this weekend and call it good.

    1. Install it in a shielded enclosure.
    2. Wire it up like this:

    Right Pin = Red/Yellow

    Right Blade (Negative Speaker Terminal) = Black/Orange

    Left Pin = Grey/Brown

    Left Blade (Negative Speaker Terminal) = Blue/Violet

    4gw56cl1c8bk.jpg

    Of course mine will be far more ghetto than this one...
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    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
    Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)


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  • monepolk
    monepolk Posts: 1,140
    verb wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    In as well

    I’m in!
    With the OP you have 4 and I think the minimum order is 10.
  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 6,646
    audioluvr wrote: »
    Of course mine will be far more ghetto than this one...
    HAHAHAHA That one is mine, now. :)
  • monepolk wrote: »
    verb wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    In as well

    I’m in!
    With the OP you have 4 and I think the minimum order is 10.

    Plus someone needs to talk with Larry about possibly building enclosures too.

    I might be in. I already have a 1kva one from the last group buy but I could use another one for my shop at some point.

    Someone also needs to be designated to collect everyone's money, place the order and ship them out to everyone once they receive the order.
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    a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."


  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    audioluvr wrote: »
    I would have but I just bought the AL -906 so I'm going to put that together this weekend and call it good.

    1. Install it in a shielded enclosure.
    2. Wire it up like this:

    Right Pin = Red/Yellow

    Right Blade (Negative Speaker Terminal) = Black/Orange

    Left Pin = Grey/Brown

    Left Blade (Negative Speaker Terminal) = Blue/Violet

    4gw56cl1c8bk.jpg

    Of course mine will be far more ghetto than this one...

    I gotta start collecting royalty fees
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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,420
    audioluvr wrote: »
    I would have but I just bought the AL -906 so I'm going to put that together this weekend and call it good.

    1. Install it in a shielded enclosure.
    2. Wire it up like this:

    Right Pin = Red/Yellow

    Right Blade (Negative Speaker Terminal) = Black/Orange

    Left Pin = Grey/Brown

    Left Blade (Negative Speaker Terminal) = Blue/Violet

    4gw56cl1c8bk.jpg

    Of course mine will be far more ghetto than this one...

    I gotta start collecting royalty fees

    We have a volunteer for collections!
    Gustard X26 Pro DAC
    Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
    Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)


    There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    audioluvr wrote: »
    audioluvr wrote: »
    I would have but I just bought the AL -906 so I'm going to put that together this weekend and call it good.

    1. Install it in a shielded enclosure.
    2. Wire it up like this:

    Right Pin = Red/Yellow

    Right Blade (Negative Speaker Terminal) = Black/Orange

    Left Pin = Grey/Brown

    Left Blade (Negative Speaker Terminal) = Blue/Violet

    4gw56cl1c8bk.jpg

    Of course mine will be far more ghetto than this one...

    I gotta start collecting royalty fees

    We have a volunteer for collections!

    Trust when i say...
    You do not want Tonyb showing up at your door.