Difference Between BFA and Banana?

So I keep seeing this "BFA Style" connector.

What the heck does BFA stand for? and how is it different from a Banana connector?

It seems like the BFA Style is this banana connector with the squiggly/cutout in it, and a regular banana connector has the spring mechanism all around, or in the 4 quadrants?

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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,258
    edited December 2017
    British Federation of Audio...created by the Eurocrats due to safety concerns

    So that you don't do sumtin'stupid like plug your audio connector into the euro electrical socket

    Banana plugs are actually illegal in Europe, hence the reason that when you receive amps, they may have those red plug caps stuffed in the the amp terminals
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  • msgmsg Posts: 3,866
    edited December 2017
    Ahhhhh, gotcha.
    Hehe, yeah, I read something about that.

    How does this prevent someone from sticking it in one of those sockets?
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 9,455
    edited December 2017
    Right Scott I'd like to know that as well.
    The marketing has always sold them as more contact surface.
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,258
    I guess because of the resemblance of the nanner euro plug :/

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  • dannylightningdannylightning Posts: 233
    edited December 2017
    from what i have seen the banannas listed as BFA do not have the little springy things like regular banana plugs do

    here is a BFA vs regular banana, pretty sure that is the difference between the two so i would say you are probably correct just adding the photo so anyone who reads it sees what we are talking about

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  • KingratKingrat Posts: 21
    All I want are some banana plugs like I used to be able to get where you can use huge wire size, and crimp them and solder them easily, and don't cost a ridiculous amount of money. Last solder ones I got barely have any solder cup in them and a 14 gauge wire is about as big as it wants to take, so I've been using the Monoprice screw clamp ones and after tightening them up, using my big old foot long soldering iron to solder them. I have some old ones someplace, can't find them after I moved that took 8 gauge cables without problems, and a 60 watt iron was fine.
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  • KingratKingrat Posts: 21
    Well, um, I guess I should have added "That don't cost an insane amount of money each" Almost $18 for four?? I don't think so, but thanks. When I can buy other ones that are usable, that are much nicer looking and appear to be a lot more solid, for much less, I'll pass. The description of them on the AQ page is pretty funny though, unless you believe in cable and connector magic.
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  • KingratKingrat Posts: 21
    Oh my, I blasphemed..So sorry.
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  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,119
    Kingrat wrote: »
    All I want are some banana plugs like I used to be able to get where you can use huge wire size, and crimp them and solder them easily, and don't cost a ridiculous amount of money. Last solder ones I got barely have any solder cup in them and a 14 gauge wire is about as big as it wants to take...
    I use the plugs in the upper part of DL’s post all throughout my system. W/a little patience, 8 gauge will fit.

    You can find a 12 pack, look-a-like, gold plated brass on eBay, under $13 shipped. Copy and paste...

    VOSO-24K-Gold-Plated-Speaker-Cable-Wire-Connector-4mm-Banana-Plug

    ...should get you there

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  • KingratKingrat Posts: 21
    Thanks, I actually found some that were like what I've had in the past:
    https://www.parts-express.com/gold-plated-crimp-on-banana-plug-16-pcs--091-350
    They don't take as large a wire as the ones I have in a box someplace, but they will take 12 gauge and that's big enough and they look deep enough to crimp without much chance of ruining them. The problem with the two piece screw ones is that if you crimp them, the screw on part won't fit, and if you don't, you need to use the giant soldering iron that is a pain to use, due to it taking forever to heat up, and it weighs a ton and keeps trying to slide out of my holder due to the stiff cord. I only normally use it for PL-259 radio antenna plugs. It works great for them. The new banana plugs will solder up fine with my much nicer to use 60W iron.
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  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,119
    edited April 11
    Kingrat: I can’t argue w/your sentiment. The AQ & VOSO plugs - same material, same contact principle, but $4.50 versus $1.08 a piece. C’mo-o-on!

    I read the AQ product description. I don’t get your point.
    Kingrat wrote: »
    ...unless you believe in cable and connector magic.
    Tony

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    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7. Woofers, Rotel 98X amp; M & T, P'sound HCA-1000
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: 4 Evidence - 1 at each corner
    Surrounds: Hafler XL280 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3*
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  • KingratKingrat Posts: 21
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    Kingrat: I can’t argue w/your sentiment. The AQ & VOSO plugs - same material, same contact principle, but $4.50 versus $1.08 a piece. C’mo-o-on!




    I read the AQ product description. I don’t get your point.
    Kingrat wrote: »
    ...unless you believe in cable and connector magic.
    Tony

    The new ones worked great, I made up 2 sets of cables last night one pair about 7 feet long each, and another pair about 20 feet long. The sleeve is more than long enough and it crimped easily and soldered fine with my 60 watt iron. I'm buying some more of them, and putting them into my recently purchased plug/components holders so they wont go missing again.

    You don't get my point about the AQ (and other cables)? Did you read my sig?
    Cable atheist: They're just trying to get your money like a TV preacher!
    Vinyl system: I'm long done with the snap, crackle, and pop.
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,119
    Kingrat wrote: »
    you don't get my point about the AQ (and other cables)? Did you read my sig?
    The mobile app doesn’t allow signatures through. I switched to full site - I get it.
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    Outlaw Audio 975 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, DirecTV Rcvr, Xbox 360, Dennon LDP, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7. Woofers, Rotel 98X amp; M & T, P'sound HCA-1000
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: 4 Evidence - 1 at each corner
    Surrounds: Hafler XL280 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3*
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
    *Bi-amped early 2018 (I hope)
  • KingratKingrat Posts: 21
    You find my lack of faith disturbing?

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    Vinyl system: I'm long done with the snap, crackle, and pop.
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