which speakers are better?

Howdy, I'm upgrading from my home theater from a sony HIB and looking at polk speakers. Im sticking around a grand for receiver and speakers. So naturally im looking at the complete T-series set up with an onkyo tx nr757. But on Amazon I saw a onkyo tx nr656 with polk TSi speakers bundle that fit my budget as well...Which speaker line is better TSi or The t-series? I cant seem to find much info out there to compare the 2 lines.
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  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,474
    Tsi is better.

    The Polk line is this.

    "T" series
    Signature which replaced TSi
    RTIA
    LSI
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • This bundle has the tsi300 tower...the receiver is slightly less than what the 757 provides but 150 bucks more for the tsi package vs the T series with a slightly better receiver. I guess are the tsi300 worth more compared to the t50? Or would you really not even notice the difference much? Too many options out there and it's rather annoying. Haha at least in my price range.
  • For my use the T series work great in a workshop environment and the sound is satisfying. Not a big deal if they get beat around, scratched, dusty, etc.

    From experience the Signature are a significant improvement in sound quality. Everyone who's listened to S20 bookshelves is pleased. In comparison to the older design Monitor towers, they're just better overall, except for lacking the low end. Signature towers provide a full range for music.

    Can't compare to TSi line as I've no experience.
  • Yeah, the Sigs are a pretty nice speaker.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk Signature S60's;Cables: Wireworld Eclipse IC; Audioquest Big Sur IC; LAT International speaker cables; PS Audio AC-3 power cords, all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    All TV's sound enhanced by Polk Magnfi Mini's.

    Other; SDA2BTL's, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage.

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  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,758
    The TSI have a better build quality than the T series. I think they look better also, but that is the reason the cost more. Both are designed for people just getting into HT, or as in your case, moving up from HTIB systems.

    Whichever you choose will probably be an improvement to most HTIB systems.
  • alan78alan78 Posts: 80
    edited September 2017
    So then this brings on another question....the receiver

    The Tx NR-656 and the Tx NR-757..the only real difference is the 757 has Thx. Is that something that is noticeable and is it worth an extra 100 or so bucks. I've never heard anything other than my HTIB and my buddies full on Klipsch system. I'm not spending that kind or coin..not even close. Haha

    This is the bundle I was talking about.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N0T84HE/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AED492BX4II6G

    Or go T series but still in the air on receiver.
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,220
    Why have you settled on Onkyo for the receiver?

    Personally, not a fan of their sound or build quality.

    Have you looked at any of the Yamaha options?
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,474
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,758
    alan78 wrote: »
    So then this brings on another question....the receiver

    The Tx NR-656 and the Tx NR-757..the only real difference is the 757 has Thx. Is that something that is noticeable and is it worth an extra 100 or so bucks. I've never heard anything other than my HTIB and my buddies full on Klipsch system. I'm not spending that kind or coin..not even close. Haha

    This is the bundle I was talking about.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N0T84HE/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AED492BX4II6G

    Or go T series but still in the air on receiver.


    Not a bad system for the price. Think you'll like it better than your HTIB system.

    You'll need speaker wire, a subwoofer cable, and HDMI cable(s) to get everything up and running. Check Blue Jeans cable for budget friendly speaker cable. Would recommend Audioquest's Forrest HDMI cable, may seem a little pricey to you, but the little extra is well worth it.
  • Upstatemax wrote: »
    Why have you settled on Onkyo for the receiver?

    Personally, not a fan of their sound or build quality.

    Have you looked at any of the Yamaha options?

    I always heard good things about Onkyo but the 656 actually has a lot of complaints. I stayed with Onkyo solely to chop the field down as I was overwhelmed with all that was out there.

    I have not looked at Yamaha but my BIL has a Yamaha receiver and loves it. So back to the drawing board.

  • I think the advice about the Onkyo is worth heeding. They pack a lot of features for the money in their receivers and something has to give. They do have a history of HDMI board failures. Maybe they fixed that? I don't know. Yamaha has always been a solid value even when other mainstream brands have gone soft. I recently purchased a Pioneer with class D3 power and I like it. I used to think poorly of Pioneer but this Elite SC-99 is a keeper. Especially with M-65's driving my mains.

    As for speakers, I like your choice. There was a period of time right after the 80's when Polk disappointed a bit but the new ones sound pretty remarkable when paired with a sub.

    Let us know what you finally decide.
    Polk SDA SRS 1
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Oppo UDP-203
    Polk CS350 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,758
    If you want to build your own system, you can get all the speakers on the Polk E Bay site, except the center channel. I'd recommend substituting the sub with the PSW 505, it's just a better sub. The CSI10 can be bought off Amazon.

    Go to the Accessories4Less website for the AVR. There factory refurbished, but I personally haven't had any problems/issues with anything I've bought from them.

    Looks like it will come out about the same price as the bundle you looked at.

    It's true that Onkyo's is having issues with their HDMI boards, but I personally have an issue with their AccuEQ calibration program they use. The board can be replaced, the calibration program can't.
  • I got quoted $1160 for this set up that was posted above:

    https://www.amazon.com/RX-V681BL-7-2-Channel-Receiver-Polk-Audio/dp/B01H25A1RC/ref=pd_day0_504_14?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01H25A1RC&pd_rd_r=2T2NY6YTKYAG7GVRGSS8&pd_rd_w=14dN5&pd_rd_wg=CW8Vi&psc=1&refRID=2T2NY6YTKYAG7GVRGSS8

    The problem is the receiver I cant seem to find much about and compare to the Onkyo nr656. Ill have to research some, my plan is to stay around 1200 but no more. I have to upgrade my screen as well so have to save some cash for it. Going from a 100" manual pull down to a Wife requested 125" electric tab tension. That will be the max size able to fit in our spot. This is in a bonus room above a garage so its not all that big.
  • alan78 wrote: »
    I got quoted $1160 for this set up that was posted above:

    https://www.amazon.com/RX-V681BL-7-2-Channel-Receiver-Polk-Audio/dp/B01H25A1RC/ref=pd_day0_504_14?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01H25A1RC&pd_rd_r=2T2NY6YTKYAG7GVRGSS8&pd_rd_w=14dN5&pd_rd_wg=CW8Vi&psc=1&refRID=2T2NY6YTKYAG7GVRGSS8

    The problem is the receiver I cant seem to find much about and compare to the Onkyo nr656. Ill have to research some, my plan is to stay around 1200 but no more. I have to upgrade my screen as well so have to save some cash for it. Going from a 100" manual pull down to a Wife requested 125" electric tab tension. That will be the max size able to fit in our spot. This is in a bonus room above a garage so its not all that big.

    WHOA. 'Wife requested 125"' screen? I guess size matters to women after all! My Wife doesn't want to see any electronics or speakers. Lucky you.
    Polk SDA SRS 1
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Oppo UDP-203
    Polk CS350 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,474
    Here is the 681 on A4L https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv681/yamaha-rx-v681-7.2-ch-x-90-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html#!more

    Honestly I would get the Yamaha packages over the Onkyo any day. I would try to push for the RX-A760 more, $200 more and a lot better system.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • Actually, Yamaha, Denon or Marantz are all good choices as well. You might scoff, but Pioneer Elite and Sony ES will more than give them a run for their money.
    Polk SDA SRS 1
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Oppo UDP-203
    Polk CS350 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • WHOA. 'Wife requested 125"' screen? I guess size matters to women after all! My Wife doesn't want to see any electronics or speakers. Lucky you.

    I really am! She could likely go without the audio but she wants the bigger screen. So....Im gonna do both, then set the room up like an actual theater with a riser and two rows of seats. I hope it all comes together!

    Im scared on the audio though. Spending that much and she cant tell a difference from it and the HTIB we have been using. She is not big on super loud and thunderous but I am.

  • mrloren wrote: »
    Here is the 681 on A4L https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv681/yamaha-rx-v681-7.2-ch-x-90-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html#!more

    Honestly I would get the Yamaha packages over the Onkyo any day. I would try to push for the RX-A760 more, $200 more and a lot better system.

    Ill see what kind of deal they can work on that other system. It is starting to get on up there though and next thing you know Ill be rocking the latest Klipsch..hahaha There is always that next best speaker. I just want a good sounding system for a dedicated smallish theater. But if they can quote me the better package for 1200 or really close I can go that way.
  • The biggest considerations are power and features. You will hear the effects of too little power and likely blow your speakers. Also make sure you get the essential features like the latest 4K connectivity and surround options. Avgoodnroom correction feature is good to have.

    And make sure it's a reliable brand.
    Polk SDA SRS 1
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Oppo UDP-203
    Polk CS350 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,758
    The Yamaha RX-V series AVR's are Yamaha's entry level series of AVR's. Very good build quality in their price range.

    Check Crutchfield. You can compare both of those AVR's, side by side on their site.

  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,474
    I understand the limited budget. Yamaha is about the best budget AVR you can get. That is why I didn't recommend Marantz or Denon.

    As for speakers Both the packages above have the same speaker setup. If you can find a Signature package jump on it.
    Actually, Yamaha, Denon or Marantz are all good choices as well. You might scoff, but Pioneer Elite and Sony ES will more than give them a run for their money.

    I agree these are good units but the cost is out of the OP's budget.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,474
    edited September 2017
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,474
    edited September 2017
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • Jimbo18Jimbo18 Posts: 1,811
    mrloren wrote: »

    Moving up from HTiaB, you should love this setup and it's around your budget. You can jump down the rabbit-hole later and enjoy this now. Seems like a great deal.
    Modest HT - Pio Elite SC-63, RT800i, CS400i center, FXi50 surrounds, Def Tech PF 15TL+, Belkin PF30, Samsung UBD-M7500.
    Even more modest Bedroom - HK AVR 340, Monitor 5jr+ Series2, CS300 center, Furez 10/2, Roku Premiere+
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,474
    Jimbo18 wrote: »
    mrloren wrote: »

    Moving up from HTiaB, you should love this setup and it's around your budget. You can jump down the rabbit-hole later and enjoy this now. Seems like a great deal.

    Add $200 for a PSW 505

    If the OP can up his budget by a few bill's that would be a great system for entry level
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • Jimbo18Jimbo18 Posts: 1,811
    Your other option is looking on your local Craigslist for speakers. Where do you live?
    Modest HT - Pio Elite SC-63, RT800i, CS400i center, FXi50 surrounds, Def Tech PF 15TL+, Belkin PF30, Samsung UBD-M7500.
    Even more modest Bedroom - HK AVR 340, Monitor 5jr+ Series2, CS300 center, Furez 10/2, Roku Premiere+
  • Jimbo18 wrote: »
    Your other option is looking on your local Craigslist for speakers. Where do you live?

    North Mississippi...Craigslist is about worthless here. hahaha Even in surrounding areas it is not that good.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,379
    Pioneer Elite for your AVR.....done.
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  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 13,031
    mrloren wrote: »

    This is what I would get, and then start saving money for SVS sub.
    Sunfire TGP III PrePro, Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature 405wpc 5 ch. Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony Bravia KDL-40R510C TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Boston VR-920 Center Channel, SVS NSD-12 SB12 Subwoofer, Polk DSW 400 Subwoofer, Polk FXi-3 Surround Speakers
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