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  • mpitogo
    mpitogo Posts: 477
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    What about these? So funny how this Ad just popped up. 3k/pr

    http://www.tektondesign.com/double-impact.html

    doubleimpact-5star_orig.jpg

    • Living Room Music-2.0 Polk Legend L800 | McIntosh C70 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Sublimeacoustic K231 Active xover | Denon DP-2500A | Denafrips Ares II | Belkin Soundform Connect | iPad Air USB to DAC
    • Media Room Ht-7.2.6/13.1 (Atmos/Auro-3D) Polk LSiM707, LSiM706c, LSiM702 F/X [x4], height LSiM703 [x6], HSU VTF-15H MK2 Dual | Marantz AV8805A | Rotel RB-1590 (L/R) | Appollon NC500 11ch | Sony UBP-X800 | AppleTV 4K | JVC RS2100 | 150” Elite Screen Acoustic Pro UHD
    • Game Room-5.1 Polk LSi25, LSiC, LSiF/X | Marantz SR7009 | AppleTV 4K | Xbox One S | Sony PS2, PS3 | Nintendo Wii | Gaming PC | Sony 75" LCD
    • Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Marantz PM-10 | Marantz SA-10 | SONY PS-HX500
    • Office-2.0 Ascend Acoustics Sierra LX, DSW microPRO3000 | Rotel RA-1570 | Marantz HD-CD1
    • Daughter's Bedroom 1-2.0 TBD Martin Logan Forte
    • Guest Room 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | Martin Logan Forte
    • Guest Room 3-3.0 Martin Logan Motion 40, 50XT | Onkyo TX-SR705 | Apple TV | Samsung 55" TV
    • Guest Room 4-2.0 QAcoustics 3030i | Sansui AU-6900 | Topping DX7s | Sansui FR-1080 | TV
    • Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
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  • mpitogo
    mpitogo Posts: 477
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    There are quite a bit of live performances so much better than fidelity at home, Daft Punk Alive, Nirvana In Utero... no?
    • Living Room Music-2.0 Polk Legend L800 | McIntosh C70 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Sublimeacoustic K231 Active xover | Denon DP-2500A | Denafrips Ares II | Belkin Soundform Connect | iPad Air USB to DAC
    • Media Room Ht-7.2.6/13.1 (Atmos/Auro-3D) Polk LSiM707, LSiM706c, LSiM702 F/X [x4], height LSiM703 [x6], HSU VTF-15H MK2 Dual | Marantz AV8805A | Rotel RB-1590 (L/R) | Appollon NC500 11ch | Sony UBP-X800 | AppleTV 4K | JVC RS2100 | 150” Elite Screen Acoustic Pro UHD
    • Game Room-5.1 Polk LSi25, LSiC, LSiF/X | Marantz SR7009 | AppleTV 4K | Xbox One S | Sony PS2, PS3 | Nintendo Wii | Gaming PC | Sony 75" LCD
    • Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Marantz PM-10 | Marantz SA-10 | SONY PS-HX500
    • Office-2.0 Ascend Acoustics Sierra LX, DSW microPRO3000 | Rotel RA-1570 | Marantz HD-CD1
    • Daughter's Bedroom 1-2.0 TBD Martin Logan Forte
    • Guest Room 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | Martin Logan Forte
    • Guest Room 3-3.0 Martin Logan Motion 40, 50XT | Onkyo TX-SR705 | Apple TV | Samsung 55" TV
    • Guest Room 4-2.0 QAcoustics 3030i | Sansui AU-6900 | Topping DX7s | Sansui FR-1080 | TV
    • Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,067
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    mpitogo wrote: »
    What about these? So funny how this Ad just popped up. 3k/pr

    http://www.tektondesign.com/double-impact.html

    doubleimpact-5star_orig.jpg

    Not enough tweeters.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
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    Dali Opticon 8
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,027
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    Rick88 wrote: »
    On another note, gotta admit some of the replies to this thread really had me scratching my head. Cerwin-Vega, PA System?? :o

    Whoo-hoo! ;)
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  • mpitogo
    mpitogo Posts: 477
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    Nightfall wrote: »

    Not enough tweeters.

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    • Living Room Music-2.0 Polk Legend L800 | McIntosh C70 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Sublimeacoustic K231 Active xover | Denon DP-2500A | Denafrips Ares II | Belkin Soundform Connect | iPad Air USB to DAC
    • Media Room Ht-7.2.6/13.1 (Atmos/Auro-3D) Polk LSiM707, LSiM706c, LSiM702 F/X [x4], height LSiM703 [x6], HSU VTF-15H MK2 Dual | Marantz AV8805A | Rotel RB-1590 (L/R) | Appollon NC500 11ch | Sony UBP-X800 | AppleTV 4K | JVC RS2100 | 150” Elite Screen Acoustic Pro UHD
    • Game Room-5.1 Polk LSi25, LSiC, LSiF/X | Marantz SR7009 | AppleTV 4K | Xbox One S | Sony PS2, PS3 | Nintendo Wii | Gaming PC | Sony 75" LCD
    • Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Marantz PM-10 | Marantz SA-10 | SONY PS-HX500
    • Office-2.0 Ascend Acoustics Sierra LX, DSW microPRO3000 | Rotel RA-1570 | Marantz HD-CD1
    • Daughter's Bedroom 1-2.0 TBD Martin Logan Forte
    • Guest Room 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | Martin Logan Forte
    • Guest Room 3-3.0 Martin Logan Motion 40, 50XT | Onkyo TX-SR705 | Apple TV | Samsung 55" TV
    • Guest Room 4-2.0 QAcoustics 3030i | Sansui AU-6900 | Topping DX7s | Sansui FR-1080 | TV
    • Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,528
    edited May 2017
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    Rick88 wrote: »
    halen wrote: »
    Instead of assuming, let's get the facts. Assumptions cost too much to correct.

    Halen

    A few facts:

    * You have been here less than 3 weeks
    * Steve has been here going on 14 years
    * He knows his s h i t
    * He did not ask for opinions on amps, just speakers

    Hey @Rick88, @halen may have a neewbie looking profile and post count, but I am 99% sure he is the artist member formerly known as halenhoang (whose account has been deleted on the vanilla platform for some reason). If I'm right (and I'm 99% sure I am), he's been around quite a long time, just not on that profile.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,132
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    It's Halen, yes
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,776
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    Halen is the coolest short guy in Texas.
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  • halen
    halen Posts: 677
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    It is a journey, have always wanted to hear the Harbeth, based solely on Steve's past reviews.

    Cheers.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,132
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    halen wrote: »
    It is a journey, have always wanted to hear the Harbeth, based solely on Steve's past reviews.

    Cheers.

    Yes, and some how Harbeth has evaded opportunity :|
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited May 2017
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    In a sea of mega buck systems at a show...and minimal listening time and less than ideal in your own room conditions.....I liked the Focal Aria 948. However, as a recommendation moving from your Harbeths....You will really need to listen to them to know if they are for you.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/WLDock/AXPONA Chicago 2015/P1040413.jpg

    I also liked the Odyssey Audio Kismet speakers with the Scan Rev and Berullium tweets. https://www.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-odyssey-audio-kismet-speakers-2017-04-28-speakers-32207-jacksonville-fl
    https://youtu.be/ELqzdPOpww4

    They also make a larger $6K unit, the Kismet Liquid.
    https://youtu.be/TH1vPrE3oGQ

    and for a 360° outside of the box option....open baffle speaker, I like the Spatial Audio M3.
    http://www.spatialaudio.us/hologram-m3/

    And for another twist....DIY option....SB Acoustics has some speakers kits coming out, Drivers, crossover, and finished cabinet for $2500! You assemble the parts. I heard those as well, as they sounded really nice!
    http://www.sbacoustics.com/index.php/sb-acoustics-kits/sba-satori-rinjani/
    https://www.stereophile.com/content/janas-day-two-part-two

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    Not that it sounds like you are after a DIY speaker....but there is a guy selling a set of the DIY speakers that I plan to build, the Statement II. Killer fullrange DIY value!

    Here are his speakers here. I think he wants $2500 for the three speakers:: http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php?42607-Statement-II-The-Remix/page4

    http://speakerdesignworks.com/Statement_II_1.html
    http://speakerdesignworks.com/Statements.html

    http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php?43825-Statement-2s-in-reference-room-project

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PIK-htho-8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUWP5BNealA
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    2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,522
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    Thanks for info!
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • steveinaz
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    deronb1 wrote: »
    Dali Opticon 8

    Those are IMPRESSIVE.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    mpitogo wrote: »
    Nightfall wrote: »

    Not enough tweeters.

    ulfbertgloss-fixed_3_orig.jpg

    If you get these can I stop by to look st them?
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,522
    edited May 2017
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    Appreciate all the suggestions, you guys have definitely showed me some options I had not considered. My main reason for this thread was because I've been living with the same speakers for about 6yrs now, so I haven't been paying much attention to what is out there. I'm really pleased with what is available within the range of sub $4k.

    Thanks again fellers for some great ideas to mull through. It'll be awhile before I follow through, but someone is going to get a nice set of Harbeth's for a good price. *wink*
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    edited May 2017
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    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    I still vividly remember how impressed I was with Spatial Audio's M3 Turbo at THE SHOW last year.

    And also the Salk Song Tower - plenty of dynamic slam and balance.

    I'm going to the LA Audio show next week - I'm going to revisit Spatial's room.

    I'm am intrigued by the Spatial Audio M3 too from all I heard from others who have got to listen to them and the price leaves room for more gear :)

    http://www.spatialaudio.us/hologram-m3/

    p.s. since my 3 trips to LSAF I find I have a thing for open baffles ;)
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
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    voltz wrote: »
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    I still vividly remember how impressed I was with Spatial Audio's M3 Turbo at THE SHOW last year.

    And also the Salk Song Tower - plenty of dynamic slam and balance.

    I'm going to the LA Audio show next week - I'm going to revisit Spatial's room.

    I'm am intrigued by the Spatial Audio M3 too from all I heard from others who have got to listen to them and the price leaves room for more gear :)

    http://www.spatialaudio.us/hologram-m3/

    p.s. since my 3 trips to LSAF I find I have a thing for open baffles ;)

    I was blown away by the M3s - they dug DEEP, and the sound was holographic. The price is amazing.

    I just don't have the space to get them set up right. :s:'(


    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
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    I probably would have bought some M3's someday if Skip hadn't push me in different direction.

    but now my path is clear to me at least ;) I just joined the Usher fan club!
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    voltz wrote: »
    I probably would have bought some M3's someday if Skip hadn't push me in different direction.

    but now my path is clear to me at least ;) I just joined the Usher fan club!

    Darryl, welcome aboard. I can only imagine how nice those dancers are. I bought my N-6361 "just because" and now I can't wait to get a set of diamonds.
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  • littlewoodboats
    littlewoodboats Posts: 823
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    I have the parts to put together a pair of Bozak Concert Grands if you are worried the other speaker options might not be big enough. No subs required
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,352
    edited May 2017
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    Good luck in your quest.

    I've seen Salk mentioned and highly recommend them. You can buy pre configured or talk about other drivers/tweeter combinations. If it is doable, he will build it. The Supercharged SongTower is in your budget range.

    http://www.salksound.com/model.php?model=Supercharged+SongTower

    I hear your concern about used. One thing Jim Salk does with used speakers dropped off at his shop for resale, he will go through them and ensure they are up to spec.

    "These speakers will be tested to confirm that they are in perfect working condition and will be re-finished, if necessary, to make certain they are in like-new condition before sending them on to a new owner."

    He upgraded the crossovers on my SoundScape 8's to new specs, refinished the plinths (they were scuffed) and offered me choice of spikes. He packed them up in new boxes. I could not tell they were used at all. He also gave me adoption paperwork. Nice touch and I saved $2600 versus new. ;)

    His for sale at Audio Circle. This circle contains used, demo and new where the buyer aborted before delivery.

    http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=5v10jqes41d5mo2h85fooss3f4&board=140.0
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    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,522
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    The Salk's were on my radar back when I ended up with the Fritz Carbon 7. They seem to be of very good fit & finish, and are something I'm considering.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,367
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    I would take a look at Sonus Faber Venere 3.0 or Revel Performa3 F208 (may be a bit above budget, but much better bass than the F206). They may do some things better and look more impressive than Polk LSiM705s, but they do cost more too.

    Focal and Harbeth sounds are about as far apart as speaker manufacturers can get.

    Another model would be the Vandersteen Signature 3A. There are reasons they have been around for so long despite the appearance being stuck in the 1980s.

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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
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    Yes the Spatial Audio M3's are something special. I never thought I'd like a horn speaker that much. Although it would take some real time in one's own setting to really know how well one can live with them.
    2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 4,997
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    Add a pair of sealed 12" subs...Velo, REL, JL Audio. Pick up a DSpeaker Anti-Mode for superb bass management. Keep the Harbreth's on maybe consider another pair of bookies. That combo done correctly will have tower's in your price range running out of Dodge.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
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    Steve which ever way you choose to go? have fun and enjoy the ride and hope you find you special system B)
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,522
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    Thanks man.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,776
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    Hey Steve! I have a set of Emerald Physics CS2p. They are the bi-amp version with the DSP based crossover.
    When I get back home (someday) I'll ship them out to you.
    Take 'em out for a spin.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,352
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    lightman1 wrote: »
    Hey Steve! I have a set of Emerald Physics CS2p. They are the bi-amp version with the DSP based crossover.
    When I get back home (someday) I'll ship them out to you.
    Take 'em out for a spin.

    Very generous offer! You are not at all like Dan described! :D
    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
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