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Or better yet, create a new sub-forum with categories focused on individual products or product lines. This would allow Polk Audio to:
- promote new products
- promote sister company lines
- bolster technical support
- encourage maximum enjoyment of its products
- nurture closer customer relationships and brand loyalty
Pretty nice idea. Only thing is that if they are independent then I might end up ignoring the second forum most of the time only checking it out every once in a while. This is what I do for some of the categories as it is. Some of them are interesting to me but I only infrequently check them out. I think this could be common to others and thus result in less traffic to those categories.
I think there's been 2-3 attempts at creating a separate forum where members could talk about taboo items that aren't allowed here. Admittedly I don't check those that often but when I do it doesn't seem to be a lot of traffic.
There's a good community here so I think that needs to be strengthened, not separated. This is why I like Ken's efforts to calm things down by implementing a ban policy. Implemented fairly and along with people using ignore lists more it could keep the trolls at bay. However lately it does feel like moderation has been minimal. Perhaps that could be why things feel like they are spiraling out of control.
BTW, shoutout to ZLTFUL's lengthy post. Besides being insightful it was hilarious. -
I can't wait to address this, but I'm busy right now, so it'll have to wait. This is going to be like shooting fish in a barrel.
Don't bother. You'll just drive more people off the forum.
I know all I need to know about why you behave the way you do.
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Uuuuhh, no he won't. It didn't when I joined years ago. He may be harsh in his comments but overall he provides an insightful perspective on audio. It's not rammed down my throat and I can choose to accept his opinion or not. Dude, I work for Bose and take pride in that fact and Jesse has made his opinion very clear what he thinks of the company. Am I offended by his comments? Not in the least.
You on the otherhand you have been the attacker not only in this thread but others. You come off as having the only "right" opinion and when called out you call them hypocrites.
What will drive people off this site is this constant bickering. That is why I hate writing this post because it just adds to the bickering. But this needs to stop. I think the OP was a great opening to a general discussion and there's been some insightful replies, but the thread has become tainted. People need to learn that when their opinion isn't well received they need to stop posting and move on. What are you trying to gain by continually posting your opinions that are not well received?
I really don't want an answer to that last question and prefer you just STFU as will I.Post edited by maximillian on -
Upstatemax wrote: »I don't consider that the "norm" though.
Usually someone gets a couple of good answers, then the thread turns into an open mic night!
It might be the "norm" on here, but it most certainly isn't on other forums. Nor is it considered helpful.
This forum has a bad rep on other forums and that also isn't helpful, but fully deserved which is a shame.
With all the "experience" that is supposed to be on this board, if all a poster can get is two helpful answers, and the rest is garbage, then that doesn't say a whole lot to recommend this board does it?
Very few will remember the good, especially if there isn't much good there, or you have to wade through 20-50 posts of BS to get to it. But all will remember the bad impressions left, and wherever they go and actually got the help they asked for, will remember to tell others on that "helpful" board, that it is pointless to come here.
And if you think that the young generation of management of the owners of Polk Audio DON'T realize that, then you are living under a rock.
Now I know that a few of you don't give a chit, and think this is your own little playground to do what you want. That's fine, actually, no its not, but you end up seeing the results.
But then don't be surprised when Polk decides to go in a different direction to point their customers in directions where they will get the answers that they need.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
Upstatemax wrote: »I don't consider that the "norm" though.
Usually someone gets a couple of good answers, then the thread turns into an open mic night!
It might be the "norm" on here, but it most certainly isn't on other forums. Nor is it considered helpful.
This forum has a bad rep on other forums and that also isn't helpful, but fully deserved which is a shame.
With all the "experience" that is supposed to be on this board, if all a poster can get is two helpful answers, and the rest is garbage, then that doesn't say a whole lot to recommend this board does it?
Very few will remember the good, especially if there isn't much good there, or you have to wade through 20-50 posts of BS to get to it. But all will remember the bad impressions left, and wherever they go and actually got the help they asked for, will remember to tell others on that "helpful" board, that it is pointless to come here.
And if you think that the young generation of management of the owners of Polk Audio DON'T realize that, then you are living under a rock.
Now I know that a few of you don't give a chit, and think this is your own little playground to do what you want. That's fine, actually, no its not, but you end up seeing the results.
But then don't be surprised when Polk decides to go in a different direction to point their customers in directions where they will get the answers that they need.
You're taking a joke way out of context.
I think you're making a blanket statement about stuff that really does not happen that much.
Kind of like how my wife will say that I'm never home on the weekend after I come home from a bi-annual, weekend camping trip...
Let's be factual for a moment. You want people to mind their own business and stick to the question asked. Yet you have, on several occasions, interjected your unsolicited opinion about others finances and personal life.
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I didn't mean a separate forum. I was suggesting a new section of categories. Similar to what is done with sponsored sections in a few other forums. Each sponsor usually adds sticky subjects that are always at the top where individual products or issues are discussed, plus topics that are added by forum members. Here, Polk could add a categories for product lines instead of sponsors' brands.maximillian wrote: »Or better yet, create a new sub-forum with categories focused on individual products or product lines. This would allow Polk Audio to:- promote new products
- promote sister company lines
- bolster technical support
- encourage maximum enjoyment of its products
- nurture closer customer relationships and brand loyalty
Pretty nice idea. Only thing is that if they are independent then I might end up ignoring the second forum most of the time only checking it out every once in a while. This is what I do for some of the categories as it is. Some of them are interesting to me but I only infrequently check them out. I think this could be common to others and thus result in less traffic to those categories.
I think there's been 2-3 attempts at creating a separate forum where members could talk about taboo items that aren't allowed here. Admittedly I don't check those that often but when I do it doesn't seem to be a lot of traffic.
There's a good community here so I think that needs to be strengthened, not separated. This is why I like Ken's efforts to calm things down by implementing a ban policy. Implemented fairly and along with people using ignore lists more it could keep the trolls at bay. However lately it does feel like moderation has been minimal. Perhaps that could be why things feel like they are spiraling out of control.
BTW, shoutout to ZLTFUL's lengthy post. Besides being insightful it was hilarious.
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I do realize that this question isn't directed at me, but I would like to go on record as saying that most of the hifi hardware at my house is decidedly mid-fi by the standards of many, perhaps most, folks here -- and most of the cabling used here is (literally) of the "found" kind; certainly a notch below the brands mentioned (two of which I've never heard of, FWIW). Even the "real" hifi upstairs has cabling that would be considered to be at the low entry level by many here.DonnerUndBlitzen wrote: »Hi Tonyb:
Have you tried Blue Jeans Cable, KabelDirekt or MediaBridge RCA cables? When was the last time you put together a mid-fi system? ...
It's just not something that I get terribly worked up about... but I play in a rather different sandbox than most of the folks here in terms of hifi strategy (not to mention mixed metaphors!).
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I did go to college. Worked full time and kept a full time college schedule.
Went back to school with a full time job, home and 2 children...
I understand a cramped schedule.
However, I also understand fully comprehending a subject before passing any judgement.
I also understand internet comments, I take them for what they are and move on with my life. If people call me names online, I don't care, one bit. -
maximillian wrote: »Uuuuhh, no he won't. It didn't when I joined years ago.
I know for a fact that's not true.
I can still remember my 1st week on the forum. F1 told me my Pioneer AVR was garbage and I was an idiot.
Do you want to know the big difference between guys like you, Jesse, 88 and me?
The main difference is that I wouldn't condone and encourage the type of unacceptable behavior that you guys feel is OK. I don't treat people like crap and don't admire others that do either.
I've always been opposed to bullies. It's just been my nature. When I see a bully trying hurt others I have a hard time just sitting back and letting it go on without saying something. And I definitely don't suck-up to them.
Maybe it's the way we were all raised that makes us different? Maybe it's our religious beliefs? Maybe it's something else? Who knows but at this point I really don't care. You just continue on with what you feel is best. -
DonnerUndBlitzen wrote: »....
He Mhardy:
You should trust your ears...
oh, I do.
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Swag-master-flex must be on vaca.....11 pages.....
In before 12!Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!! -
One of the best-sounding systems I ever heard used those exact same Eico tube amps he has sitting by the window.
I bet the system sounds great in that room too. -
You need to know when hold'em, know when to fold'em know when to walk away know when to run......
JFNCWTF people -
LOL. How did this drift to cables? It is funny reading how some are trying to rationalize their forum behavior by playing the victim. Boo hoo.
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DonnerUndBlitzen wrote: »Upstatemax wrote: »I did go to college. Worked full time and kept a full time college schedule.
Went back to school with a full time job, home and 2 children...
I understand a cramped schedule.
However, I also understand fully comprehending a subject before passing any judgement.
I also understand internet comments, I take them for what they are and move on with my life. If people call me names online, I don't care, one bit.
Hello:
Since my post earlier, ZLTFUL is still at it with the name calling, but I have not responded directly. I know that I cannot correct him and wish him well.
It seems you are misunderstanding. It isn't animosity I feel towards you...it is pity. You can't simply agree to disagree without getting all rectally irritated. And that makes me sad for you.
"Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
DonnerUndBlitzen wrote: »
Who the F cares keep at it ....proving my point. More and more -
Just because you don't agree doesn't mean it is pointless.
The difference is, I am not trying to shove it down your throat as you are wont to do to others.
Never said I DO NOT AGREE.
Said it was pointless to discuss "Truths" because Bad behavour is overshadowing rational discussions. -
FYI although he tends to be a little low key mhardy is IMO the most all around knowledgable audio guy on this forum.DonnerUndBlitzen wrote: »He Mhardy:
You should trust your ears. -
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OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
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SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
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Upstatemax wrote: »I don't consider that the "norm" though.
Usually someone gets a couple of good answers, then the thread turns into an open mic night!
This forum has a bad rep on other forums and that also isn't helpful, but fully deserved which is a shame.
With all the "experience" that is supposed to be on this board, if all a poster can get is two helpful answers, and the rest is garbage, then that doesn't say a whole lot to recommend this board does it?
Very few will remember the good, especially if there isn't much good there, or you have to wade through 20-50 posts of BS to get to it. But all will remember the bad impressions left, .
Well said Cathy. Problem is, the guys that are doing this stuff, feel they are doing nothing wrong. Business as usual.
Find 4 or 5 people to bash, call names, and Gang up on, now that Xcapri is gone.
It does make the forum look silly.
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Gatecrasher wrote: »I'll make a suggestion. The 3 of you malcontents, km, gate and the reindeer start your own forum, which you can run the way you see fit. I wish you good luck.
I'm not the one trying to run things around here. You are. As far anyone can see you are the only malcontent. It's your way or the highway. Zero tolerance for anyone else's opinion and zero respect for anyone who isn't in your little clique.
And who the heck are you to tell anyone what to do on this forum? You aren't "jack". You're just another member like the rest of us.
The shame is you can be OK from time to time when you want to be. Everyone on here isn't out to get you or change "your" forum.
The only thing that needs changing is staring you in the mirror.
Yeah, I'm just another member having.......
Beta tested many Polk products over the last 15 years.
Attended most Polkfests, helping out in various ways and made a lot of friends at them.
Own 7 pairs of Polk speakers, vintage and current. Another pair on the boat. Two complete sets of Polk HT speakers and a Polk sub.
Spent the day at Matt Polk's house with some other select Polkies and then dinner, Matt's treat.
Have visited Matt a few more times since then.
Been treated to lunchs and dinners by the former VP of Marketing.
Help set up and run the 3 shows Polk did at the CAF.
Have the SRT poster signed by Matt to me.
Have repaired Polkie gear for little or nothing.
Recently helped Polk out with something I can't talk about.
Given things away via Karma and sold a number of things cheaply.
Have a framed letter of recognition/appreciation from Polk.
I'm sure I've forgotten a number of other things.
I'm bad, I'm nationwide and I am "jack"
One more thing, I've given a lot to this forum and Polk over the years, a lot more than I've taken. Seems to me you've taken a lot more than you've given.
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And your hair sucks!Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
