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nooshinjohn wrote: »
I traded my Rogue for. Pass Labs X1 and never looked back. Between Rogue and Cary, I would lean with the one you are looking at, but IMHO, I would also consider the Pass...
I have some thoughts about the future pre but honestly I have nearly zero itch.
I just rolled 4 popes in and have been playing with the other 2 tubes... It's been a great experience.Magico, JL, Emm, ARC Ref 10 line, ARC Ref 10 phono, VPI, Lyra, Boulder, AQ Wel, SRA Scuttle Rack, Bluesound -
Is there a model of Mullard or RCA I should look at? These is new to me
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Is there a model of Mullard or RCA I should look at? These is new to me
How much do you want to spend? What other gear do you have?2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
Jolida CDP w/Psvane tubes
Cary SLP-03 Pre
Mark Levinson no27 amp
Polk Lsi 15s
Full MIT loom
Price range I would like to gauge from the consensus here.
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Why don't you first listen to it before spending more on tubes?
My recs are I enjoy the rca nos that I have and I switch between a newer tung sol as well.
Currently popes dominate my 05, though I stuck a couple EH just to see how I like it.Magico, JL, Emm, ARC Ref 10 line, ARC Ref 10 phono, VPI, Lyra, Boulder, AQ Wel, SRA Scuttle Rack, Bluesound -
Why don't you first listen to it before spending more on tubes?
My recs are I enjoy the rca nos that I have and I switch between a newer tung sol as well.
Currently popes dominate my 05, though I stuck a couple EH just to see how I like it.
Absolutely. The tubes are brand new and need to burn in.
I'm just curious on which tubes are recommended. Just in case I find a great deal. -
Is there a preference to NOS vs new tubes? ie Mullard/RCA 12au7?
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Is there a preference to NOS vs new tubes? ie Mullard/RCA 12au7?
I quite enjoy anything RCA, I have all varieties, JRC 5814A, also in triple micas, my favorite is long black plates. I would say grab some 5814 commands, and enjoy them, they are cheap, quiet, and sound huge!
I have lots of European tubes from valvo, Mullard, amperex, brimar, and I always come back to US production tubes, they are just so good for the money.
2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
Is there a difference in the 12au7 & the 12au7a?
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The "A" suffix in 7 and 9 pin mini types indicates controlled heater warm up time. Controlled heater warm up time was introduced to permit long series heater strings of disparate types in TV sets. The TV set manufacturers did not want to pay for power trafo heater windings. The bottles lacking the "A" suffix are earlier production. The machinery used had less wear and tear on it, in that time frame.
Other than the heaters, there are ZERO electrical specification differences between specimens of a type with and without the "A" suffix.
I find the "A" to be a little quieter. I use them in my Cary.
How's this 03 working out for you?2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
Just to whet your appetite.
I am getting ready to post some of the rarer holy grain 12AU7/ECC82 type tubes shortly. My collection has become too large for some tube types and I need to thin the herd.
Just an fyi to keep in the back of your mind if interested.
H9
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Just to whet your appetite.
I am getting ready to post some of the rarer holy grain 12AU7/ECC82 type tubes shortly. My collection has become too large for some tube types and I need to thin the herd.
Just an fyi to keep in the back of your mind if interested.
H9
Im game....I have been trolling NOS tube store lately but can wait.... -
The "A" suffix in 7 and 9 pin mini types indicates controlled heater warm up time. Controlled heater warm up time was introduced to permit long series heater strings of disparate types in TV sets. The TV set manufacturers did not want to pay for power trafo heater windings. The bottles lacking the "A" suffix are earlier production. The machinery used had less wear and tear on it, in that time frame.
Other than the heaters, there are ZERO electrical specification differences between specimens of a type with and without the "A" suffix.
I find the "A" to be a little quieter. I use them in my Cary.
How's this 03 working out for you?
Thanks for the info!
The 03 opened up very nicely. I hearing new nuances in my music and sounds much more "natural'. I think I will keep it for sometime and enjoy some tube rolling." -
I have some thoughts about the future pre but honestly I have nearly zero itch.
Well, you went from zero to a hundred pretty quick!
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Just to whet your appetite.
I am getting ready to post some of the rarer holy grain 12AU7/ECC82 type tubes shortly. My collection has become too large for some tube types and I need to thin the herd.
Just an fyi to keep in the back of your mind if interested.
H9
@heiney9 I am very interested. Let me know please.Pio Elete Pro 520
Panamax 5400-EX
Sunfire TGP 5
Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
PS Audio GCPH phono pre
Sunfire CG 200 X 5
Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C
Not being used:
RTi 38's -4
RT55i's - 2
RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404 -
Holy cow. The RCA blackplates opened up the pre sooooo niceley. Thanks for the recommendation!
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Holy cow. The RCA blackplates opened up the pre sooooo niceley. Thanks for the recommendation!
Which ones did you pick up? I find all rca to have a fantastic soundstage.2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
Cool gents, I have some RCA 5751's blackplates in my pre and they sound pretty frickin' good.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Not sure but these are RCA made for CONN.
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Long black plates with angled D getter. I have loads of these. My favorite right now. The earlier the better. I have some 1951 with angled square getter, they are super sweet. And thy do sound slightly different.2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
RCA's are always solid performers. Earlier tubes in general are preferred from all manufacturers, they can have some qualities that are hard to duplicate even from the same manufacturer years later.
I really encourage getting your ears on as many old stock tubes as possible (as much as one can afford) because you ain't heard nothing yet!!!
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
@heiney9
Did RCA tubes ever have a gray plate? And is there a sonic difference in the black vs gray plate? Asking because I have a lead on 4 6350 gray plates, per the sellers description. And if it's not to much trouble, does the Getter type matter?
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I believe the gray plates are called "Clear Tops".
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They made gray plate tubes, long plate, short plate, top getter, side getter. The getter type doesn't directly impact the sound, but it can date most tubes in general and can be used as an identifier.
I am not that familiar with the sound signature of the 6350's so I can't say which is better black or gray plates. Generally for American tubes, the black plates are early tubes and gray plates later tubes. That's in general as some makes made black plates later than others.
You'll just have to roll some tubes to see which you like best in your rig.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
I believe the gray plates are called "Clear Tops".
RCA made a side getter 12AU7 that has gray plates, but there are others, long plate and short plate that are also gray.
H9Post edited by heiney9 on"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Should all tubes have some type of plate. I received these and not sure it the plates came off. Thanks
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No, different tube designations can have different plate construction, even same designations can have different plate construction.
I don't understand the question:
I received these and not sure it the plates came off
What came off? Where?
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Found this in one empty box
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^^ I think those are for transportation pruposes to
Protect pins.2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
Not sure those came from the factory, but they are pin protectors. Keeps them from getting bent and to some degree keeps oxidation off the pins.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
