Group Buy '16: Dreadnought Avel Lindberg 1000VA Isolation Transformers

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  • RobbyKY
    RobbyKY Posts: 117
    Thank you!! Time to start accumulating part.....
    Media Room: Parasound JC-5, Cambridge 851N, Schiit Freya, SDA SRS 1.2tl
    Game Room: Carver M4.0t, Carver C-4000, Oppo BDP-105, SDA SRS 1.2tl
    Bar/Card Room: Carver TFM-55, Carver C-1(BillD), Oppo BDP-93, SDA SRS 3.1
    Son's Room: Carver TFM-55, Carver C-1(BillD), Laptop/AQ Dragonfly, SDA SRS 3.1
    Bedroom: McIntosh MC150, Cambridge CXN, SDA 2Btl
    Outdoor Pool Area: Yamaha R-N803 with four Polk Atrium 6
    HT: Polk RTi A9s, CSi-A6, RT-65, RTi-A3's, Marantz SR5012, XPA3, UDP-203, Epson 5040UB


  • @RobbyKY I see you are also a fan of the Carver/Polk synergy o:)
  • RobbyKY
    RobbyKY Posts: 117
    Yes sir and have been since about 1988. A Carver MXR-150 receiver/amp and a set of Polk 2B's were my first major purchase after getting out of school and landing a "real" job. Worked for a radio station while getting my degrees and they would broadcast "Carver Sonic Holography Hour" on Friday nights at 10:00, sank the hook good! Next up was the C-4000 preamp & an M1.0t amp and never looked back. Still have everything but the MXR is in dire need of a recap.
    Media Room: Parasound JC-5, Cambridge 851N, Schiit Freya, SDA SRS 1.2tl
    Game Room: Carver M4.0t, Carver C-4000, Oppo BDP-105, SDA SRS 1.2tl
    Bar/Card Room: Carver TFM-55, Carver C-1(BillD), Oppo BDP-93, SDA SRS 3.1
    Son's Room: Carver TFM-55, Carver C-1(BillD), Laptop/AQ Dragonfly, SDA SRS 3.1
    Bedroom: McIntosh MC150, Cambridge CXN, SDA 2Btl
    Outdoor Pool Area: Yamaha R-N803 with four Polk Atrium 6
    HT: Polk RTi A9s, CSi-A6, RT-65, RTi-A3's, Marantz SR5012, XPA3, UDP-203, Epson 5040UB


  • msg
    msg Posts: 9,308
    @vcwatkins / @sketchycraig -- what's our official closing date for orders, please?
    I disabled signatures.
  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    edited December 2016
    We have reached 20! This is without DrumSolo ordering a second. Here's the current list. Please let me know of any errors/omissions.

    CURRENT LIST
    1.) 250GTLusso
    2.) 250GTLusso
    3.) DrumSolo
    4.) vcwatkins
    5.) Nesmith98
    6.) nooshinjohn
    7.) honestaquarian
    8.) RandyCroissant
    9.) monepolk
    10.) amb426amb1
    11.) Polk65
    12.) Polk65
    13.) Polk65
    14.) Polk65
    15.) heiney9
    16.) gmcman
    17.) ER308L
    18.) dd2753
    19.) dd2753
    20.) RobbyKY

    NEXT STEPS
    I'd like to wrap things up soon now that we've reached 20 and reaching 25 doesn't look terribly likely. I'd like to keep open for another day if that's alright with the group. Let's set a deadline of Thursday 12/22. If anyone has an overwhelming desire to keep open longer, please let us know.

    If anyone is on the fence, now is the time. Unit cost drops another $14 if we reach 25.

    Confirmation PM's are going out shortly using the 20-count pricing.

    Is there a separate thread for cases?
    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Schiit Yggy * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,053
    Yeah, I had some questions about the cases as I am just now compiling a list of parts I need to make a cable, and other parts for the case, etc. So hopefully a case thread will be started soon.

    Hey Craig, do you remember the lead time once these are ordered?

    Great response!

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Yeah, I had some questions about the cases as I am just now compiling a list of parts I need to make a cable, and other parts for the case, etc. So hopefully a case thread will be started soon.

    Hey Craig, do you remember the lead time once these are ordered?

    Great response!

    H9

    Lead time is currently 12 weeks.
    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Schiit Yggy * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,053
    Whoa! Didn't realize that. So I guess no hurry for a case thread...lol.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,834
    I will have a case thread sometime the beginning of the year..
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,053
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I will have a case thread sometime the beginning of the year..

    Awesome!
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • BlueBirdMusic
    BlueBirdMusic Posts: 2,066
    edited December 2016
    vcwatkins,
    Please post a summary of what the expected costs and payment schedule are currently.
    Thanks,
    Harry
    Marietta GA
    "Sometimes you have to look to the past to understand where you are going in the future"


    Harry / Marietta GA
  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    vcwatkins,
    Please post a summary of what the expected costs and payment schedule is currently.
    Thanks,
    Harry
    Marietta GA

    COST
    We are currently at:
    Transformer unit cost: $243.19
    USPS insured CONUS shipping: $17.55 (additional charge for int'l)
    Total each: $260.74
    If we get to 25 committed, the total is reduced by $14.24
    I'll need to get a quote directly from Melanie on any shipping outside the 48 states.

    PAYMENT
    Although Avel Lindberg collects 50% up front with 50% due at shipment, I'll need to collect 100% since I'll be on the hook once ordered. I'll pay the total when I place the order.

    Payment is via Paypal gift prior to order being placed. Once confirmations are received, I will send out payment info. Paypal fees, if any, will be buyer’s responsibility. Paypal fees from debit/credit card look to be $7.86 on a $260.74 transaction. Once the funds are collected, I'll place the order and pay in full. It depends on how quickly money comes in of course, but I would hope I can place the order when they reopen on 1/2/17.
    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Schiit Yggy * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
  • What's the cost of the cases?
    (*I doubt @Toolfan66 is giving them away*)
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,053
    What's the cost of the cases?
    (*I doubt @Toolfan66 is giving them away*)

    You posted in the thread that Toolfan66 said he would make a cases thread after the New Year, so that's your answer (it hasn't been determined yet) and Craig isn't in charge of the cases.

    I assume that the cases are a separate matter that the case maker will handle from start to finish. This is for the tranny buy only.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,517
    heiney9 wrote: »
    This is for the tranny buy only.

    *giggles*

    Sorry, these threads always are filled with lots of fun phrases you can't help but take out of context.

    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,421
    What's the cost of the cases?
    (*I doubt @Toolfan66 is giving them away*)

    Last time around they were in the neighborhood of $100; Larry will set the price, this go-round, based on materials and time cost, etc. He's good people obviously and the value of his product will be well over the price he quotes.

    DreadnaughtCase_zpsd22274e1.jpg
    Jay
    SDA 2BTL * Musical Fidelity A5cr amp * Oppo BDP-93 * Modded Adcom GDA-600 DAC * Rythmik F8 (x2)
    Micro Seiki DQ-50 * Hagerman Cornet 2 Phono * A hodgepodge of cabling * Belkin PF60
    Preamp rotation: Krell KSL (SCompRacer recapped) * Manley Shrimp * PS Audio 5.0
  • dkfreebird
    dkfreebird Posts: 1,180
    I might as well jump in before it is to late.Count me in for 1 please.
    2 Channel
    Polk 1.2tl's Modded with dreadnought
    Musical Fidelity M6Si
    North Star Intenso Dac
    Auralic Aries Mini Streamer
    Oppo 103
    Pangea PC
    Wireworld Equinox 7 interconnects
    Wireworld Equinox 7 Speaker Cables and Jumpers

    Backups 2.3tl, Crs+ pin/blade with stands.Monitor 5 peerless,Monitor 4 peerless,Polk R200,McCormack Dna 0.5 Deluxe McCormack Dna 1,Dared Sl 2000A,Dayens Ampino Rogue Magnum 66 pre
  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    dkfreebird wrote: »
    I might as well jump in before it is to late.Count me in for 1 please.
    Thanks, dk! PM sent.
    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Schiit Yggy * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,084
    DSkip wrote: »
    Let me know if it's on the fence to get the next discount. If it comes down to it, I might help you dudes hit the mark until more buyers come out of the woodworks.

    Me, too. As I'm thinking about going in the neutrik<sp> direction

    I suggest extending the "I'm in" period to Jan 2 . . . just my $00.2
    AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampi Baltic 4
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Rythmik F12
  • Craig
    Looks like we might be getting another ptoce drop. Hold it open for a bit longer.
  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    We're at 21 with 3 fence-sitters. Let's see where we are late tomorrow night. I think we'd all love to see us get to 25 and it does seem to be within reach at this point.

    Great chance to move closer to the best possible sound from SDA's and a fun easy project. Anyone considering needs to jump in now.

    Again, many thanks to @250GTLusso for making this happen.
    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Schiit Yggy * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
  • 250GTLusso wrote: »
    I received a call and an email back from Melanie.
    Melanie%20from%20Avel%20Lindberg%20response.jpg
    Avel%20Lindberg%20Quote.jpg

    Let this be encouragement to get a few more people on board with this and get to the next drop in price people!
    WE ARE ALMOST THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME(*ever I think*)
  • I echo Craig's (*@vcwatkins*) remarks and also extend Kudos to Steve @250GTLusso for kicking this off with gusto.
    Also Kudos to Craig for stepping up and taking over this in such an organized manner!

    Here,here gentlemen!
  • heiney9 wrote: »
    What's the cost of the cases?
    (*I doubt @Toolfan66 is giving them away*)

    You posted in the thread that Toolfan66 said he would make a cases thread after the New Year, so that's your answer (it hasn't been determined yet) and Craig isn't in charge of the cases.

    I assume that the cases are a separate matter that the case maker will handle from start to finish. This is for the tranny buy only.

    H9

    I got the message over there thanks,so don't get your panties in a bunch ;):D
  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    We are very close to 25 and the lowest unit price! Here's where we stand:

    (21) Committed
    • (10) confirmation/address PM's received
    • (6) confirmation/address PM's outstanding
    (4) Fence-dwellers
    • (1) Currently in for one unit & willing to order second if helps get 25
    • (2) May jump in if it helps to get to 25
    • (1) Mulling

    If fence dwellers are closer to committing now that 25 is within reach, please let me know.

    Anyone else considering needs to jump in now. Great chance to get closer to the best possible sound from SDA's. You want proof? Here's your proof.
    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Schiit Yggy * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
  • So we have gone from almost three hundred each for the transformers to now if we make the magic 25 for the group buy to just over two hundred each.
    Looks good to me.
    How about those fence sitters????
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,053
    edited December 2016
    Fence sitters need to decide, but keep in mind this an extremely busy time of year with people distracted/busy for Xmas. Since we are this close, I'd say to keep it open until 1-3-17 to ensure all who want to get one can.

    Of course if we hit the goal before 1-3-17, then move forward with the purchase.

    Just my unbunched panties .02c :D

    H9

    P.s. The math is off 21 committed; 10 received; 6 outstanding = 16, what about the other 5?

    P.s.s. Nevermind I just realized a few bought multiple units....duh!
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • heiney9 wrote: »
    Fence sitters need to decide, but keep in mind this an extremely busy time of year with people distracted/busy for Xmas. Since we are this close, I'd say to keep it open until 1-3-17 to ensure all who want to get one can.

    I agree regarding the 1/3/17 date. People have more money in the new year too.
    "Sometimes you have to look to the past to understand where you are going in the future"


    Harry / Marietta GA
  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    Thanks guys. Let's keep this open through 1-3-2017.

    We should be able to get to 25 *committed* and avoid leaving anyone out due to short-term timing concerns.

    Anyone who is considering joining the group buy but has hesitated due to timing, please let me know if you'd like to participate. Fence-sitters, please let me know of any changes in your status.

    Dread On!

    Craig
    Beach Audio: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Schiit Yggy * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
  • PM Reply to Craig that I will indeed join the group.
    Harry Jones
    Marietta GA
    "Sometimes you have to look to the past to understand where you are going in the future"


    Harry / Marietta GA