Just Discovering Lossless Digital

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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 4,429
    You could compare a hybrid SACD no?
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  • I've read that there is a difference in the sound between an SACD and a DSD download. I just have never bothered to spend the money on both again just to compare. This habit is expensive enough :D
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  • tophatjohnnytophatjohnny Posts: 1,976
    edited September 2016
    Reading this thread was a hoot. I won't shout too loud as to the format I use, and trust I have tries all formats as to arrive with what rocks and what don't. The OP knows what's up and I'm sure he is digging it. I won't even spill how many albums I have on my NAS, but will admit it is a sickness and a very addicting hobby and within the next month I will be forced to move to a pair of 8TB WD Purples if I am to continue this never ending journey/Habbit!!!

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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 10,088
    afterburnt wrote: »
    You could compare a hybrid SACD no?

    A hybrid CD is just regular CD (for the CD portion) at 16/44. However, it might be mastered differently than the version on only a regular CD, so then there could be a difference in sound.

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  • tonyb wrote: »
    machone wrote: »
    I have only ripped to WAV to date.
    When ripping cds how does the sound quality compare between WAV and FLAC?

    Depends....on if your system is revealing enough to discern those small differences. Wav files take up much more room than Flac or other lossless formats but if you have a nice big external hard drive it shouldn't be an issue.

    The reason Wav files take up more room is because they are uncompressed, unlike other lossless formats which are, and then uncompressed at playback. Some say it does make a difference in sound quality, some say not so much. I guess that comes down to your system.

    FLAC audio can be set to various levels of compression including zero compression. At FLAC level 8 the audio is not compressed.

    Lossless is lossless regardless of the format. If you hear a difference between different formats when comparing equal quality recordings then you have another deficiency in your system to address.

    I have been collecting FLAC audio for ten years now. FLAC isn't anything new. It's been around for 20 years. At this time I have over 15 TB of FLAC audio and am still growing. All of my audio files are on Western Digital Caviar Black SATA hard drives in an Addonics hot-swapable tower.
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 7,545
    At this time I have over 15 TB of FLAC audio and am still growing.

    Wow, that's a small fortune in music $$$$

    Oh, wait... that's right. I meant

    Wow, that's several lifetimes in prison if you get caught with all that!
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  • tophatjohnnytophatjohnny Posts: 1,976
    edited September 2016
    tonyb wrote: »
    machone wrote: »
    I have only ripped to WAV to date.
    When ripping cds how does the sound quality compare between WAV and FLAC?

    Depends....on if your system is revealing enough to discern those small differences. Wav files take up much more room than Flac or other lossless formats but if you have a nice big external hard drive it shouldn't be an issue.

    The reason Wav files take up more room is because they are uncompressed, unlike other lossless formats which are, and then uncompressed at playback. Some say it does make a difference in sound quality, some say not so much. I guess that comes down to your system.

    FLAC audio can be set to various levels of compression including zero compression. At FLAC level 8 the audio is not compressed.

    Lossless is lossless regardless of the format. If you hear a difference between different formats when comparing equal quality recordings then you have another deficiency in your system to address.

    I have been collecting FLAC audio for ten years now. FLAC isn't anything new. It's been around for 20 years. At this time I have over 15 TB of FLAC audio and am still growing. All of my audio files are on Western Digital Caviar Black SATA hard drives in an Addonics hot-swapable tower.

    "Lossless is lossless regardless of the format. If you hear a difference between different formats when comparing equal quality recordings then you have another deficiency in your system to address."

    Actually if you can't hear the difference you have a deficiency in your system! Whether you address it or not is your choice.

    And over 15TB worth of Audio = easily over 25 thousand albums, even at 16bit 441000Hz.......and I Thought I had a ton with 8500 albums??? My formula is working so good, I am now swapping my 2 WD Red 4TB's for 2
    Seagate 10TB IronWolf NAS SATA 6Gb/s drives and when the 10TB drive full, it should be a little over 20 thousand albums, artwork and all. Crazy hobby, but a lotta fun.. get down!!!
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  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,176
    edited September 2016
    I can hear the difference. I can play a cd, running to a W4S dac2, and then listen to FLAC rip of the same cd running through Jriver to the same w4s dac2 I can pick the cd every time. I have upgraded my usb calbe and that helped bring it closer but the cd still sounds better. From what I have been reading, I might need to try something other then the laptop for my source.

    Although reading DarqueKnight threads, his dac and player setup is way above mine and he can also hear the difference unless I am reading his threads wrong.
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 10,088
    Sure he can. The rips are always better than the CD.
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  • machonemachone Posts: 990
    BlueFox,
    Why do you think the rips are better that the CD?
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,771
    machone wrote: »
    BlueFox,
    Why do you think the rips are better that the CD?

    No transport to add noise. It is all about noise reduction, hence why a laptop is normally not a good solution for a source.
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  • mikeyb128mikeyb128 Posts: 2,735
    DSkip wrote: »
    machone wrote: »
    BlueFox,
    Why do you think the rips are better that the CD?

    No transport to add noise. It is all about noise reduction, hence why a laptop is normally not a good solution for a source.

    How about a lap top with a solid state drive?
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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,881
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    machone wrote: »
    BlueFox,
    Why do you think the rips are better that the CD?

    No transport to add noise. It is all about noise reduction, hence why a laptop is normally not a good solution for a source.

    How about a lap top with a solid state drive?

    Would be an improvement but laptop power supplies is an inherent issue also
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  • machonemachone Posts: 990
    I am all in when it comes to reducing any type of noise. That is the reason I go rid on my laptop and went all solid state, Fidelizer, IFI Purifier 2, linear power supply, etc. All of these made improvements.

    However, on my system I am not sure that rips sound better than CDs. Both are running through the Marantz SA8005 dac. But one thing that I am guilty of is using Windows Media Player to rip the CDs. Too busy/lazy to re-rip using Jriver.

    One other option with the SA8005 is to copy the wav file to a thumb drive and play via the usb port on the front panel.
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,835
    I don't believe Windows Media is bit perfect. Stop being lazy and do it the correct way :p
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 10,088
    machone wrote: »
    BlueFox,
    Why do you think the rips are better that the CD?

    I was referring to the previous post where the poster said DK hears a difference.

    One reason might be that while the ripped file is the same as the file on the CD disc, as others mentioned, you do get read jitter using a laser to read pits on a plastic disc.

    Personally, I find my file player with built in DAC to be much better than my CD player, which actually is not too bad.

    If you are running a file player into your CD player and using the CD player internal DAC then you need to take into account the cable used between the file player and DAC, along with the power supply cable on the file player. Those two cables can make or break the sound quality.

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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,771
    I've heard the argument both ways. I've experienced it both ways. A lot factors in and I think it boils down how you pull either one off in the end. I've been very happy with my dedicated media streamer but I also don't mind throwing a disk in every now and then and taking in what that does. I want to say there might be more dynamic headroom that I hear on an actual disk, but I'm not certain. When I stepped up to the Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 USB cable, I pretty much quit using my disks as the sound was so much better.

    Ernie, I know you have a new DAC on the way (or ?), but I do believe that once the W4S is out of the picture, the gap will close even more.
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  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,176
    I am hopping so skip. I am still waiting for the VI Tube Dac to be built. I was one of the early people who got on board with the pulse dac but opted for the upgraded Vi Tube.

    The final piece might be getting the laptop out of the picture.
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  • jeremymarcinkojeremymarcinko Posts: 3,165
    edited September 2016
    I stream JRiver via DNLA and use the optical out from a chromecast audio ($35) into the Musical Fidelity DAC. It sounds very good and is very inexpensive. I really do not think I would even consider connecting via usb at this point.
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,771
    I stream JRiver via DNLA and use the optical out from a chromecast audio ($35) into the Musical Fidelity DAC. It sounds very good and is very inexpensive. I really do not think I would even consider connecting via usb at this point.

    Those devices are great, cheap solutions that do indeed sound good. I wouldn't go as far as you, but then again I've got a couple grand into my streamer and USB cable.
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  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 9,807
    DSkip wrote: »
    but then again I've got a couple grand into my streamer and USB cable.
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  • StantonZStantonZ Posts: 389
    A lot of these cables/connections issues are dispensed with if you put a FLASH drive in the USB slot of your AVR; I have pretty much moved from CD -> FLAC with my new AVR (although CDs on my LD player still sound pretty good).
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  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,882
    edited October 2016

    FLAC audio can be set to various levels of compression including zero compression. At FLAC level 8 the audio is not compressed.

    Level 8 is still compressed. Below level 8 in the dBpoweramp drop down menu is Uncompressed, which is kind of an oxymoron. Uncompressed is a special compression mode which stores 16 bit audio in an uncompressed state. ;)

    To me, the important thing with flac using dBpoweramp is tick the 'Verify Written Audio' box after selecting flac level. Then, after encoding and compression is complete, the compressed audio will be read and compared to the source.



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  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,882
    edited October 2016
    Oh, if you diy and build your own music server using Vortexbox 2.4 (Linux, PC must be 64 bit), it is designed from the ground up to be a bit perfect CD ripper, server, and player. IIRC V2.4 can handle up to 32/384. Sometimes I rip CD's with my server instead of dBpoweramp and just check/adjust tagging afterward.

    I use a Signature Sonore Music Server with Deux power supply. Vortexbox 2.4. You can use internal drives or point your server to an external hard drive array.

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,577
    I think you guys are going way over the OP's head here. lol

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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 7,545
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    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,882
    tonyb wrote: »
    I think you guys are going way over the OP's head here. lol

    :smiley:

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  • DarqueKnightDarqueKnight Posts: 6,307
    edited October 2016
    erniejade wrote: »
    Although reading DarqueKnight threads, his dac and player setup is way above mine and he can also hear the difference unless I am reading his threads wrong.

    You read them correctly. Other than when in my car or truck, I don't listen to CDs anymore. Everything is either a download or CD ripped to uncompressed FLAC using dBpoweramp. My SACDs were/are ripped to dsf files using a hacked Sony Playstation.

    The only time I buy something in CD or SACD disk format is if it isn't available in digital download format.

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  • machonemachone Posts: 990
    heiney9,

    I finally took the time and I am a believer.

    I have been re-ripping cds to wav files using Jriver and they are better than the same cds ripped to wav using Windows Media Player. I am hearing things in music previously unnoticed.

    The Marantz SA-8500 sounds better than ever. I know I keep saying this but I keep tweaking in the right direction.
    Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 21 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Equinox 7>> Mojo Audio Mystique v2 SE>>ModWright SWL 9.0 SE Signature >>Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod) >>Belden 5000 10 ga cables>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
    1KVA Dreadnought
    Marantz SA 8005
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

    "All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,176
    Wav for me was also the big changer as well.
    Lumin D1, KEF LS50 Wireless, Cayin scd-50T, LH Labs VI Dac, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Jolida D9, HP I7 Laptop, Wireworld Eclipse 7, Wireworld Aurora, Wireworld Electra 7, Signal Magic Digital, Cardas Quadralink 5C, Velodyne SPL1200
    USB helpers: w4s Recovery

    HT: Elite SC27, Full Polk RTI setup.

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