Older Monitor 5 series vs S10 series?

jeffandpamsmith
jeffandpamsmith Posts: 7
edited July 2009 in Vintage Speakers
I have 4 older Monitor 5 speakers and 2 S10 speakers. I used then years ago in my home theater till I upgraded. I just want to use them to fill my LR and DR with music for ambience, not audiophile. The specs say they are all 8 ohm, but I thought iI remember something years ago about Polks being 6 ohms. I want to run the Monitor 5's in parallel on a Soundcraftsman pro power 10 (old workhorse, 400 watts at 4 ohms, supposed to be stable at less). If these are 6 ohms, though-I worry.

Also, comments on the Monitor 5 Series vs the S10? I recall the Monitor 5's being well thought of but the S10's nothing special (even back then, but reviewed the cust reviews on the vintage models in this forum).

I used to have all 6 hooked up with a Russound speaker selector to even the ohms, but I want to steal the Russound for outdoor speakers noe and just may do without the S10's.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    always liked the Polk Monitor 5's and still do
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited July 2009
    I do believe the Monitor 5s are 8ohm.... I know none of my recievers had a problem running them even at high volumes, and they were only good to 8ohms.

    As for the S10, sorry, i haven't heard them. :(
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  • smglbrth
    smglbrth Posts: 1,466
    edited July 2009
    The original instruction manual I have states the nominal impedance at 4 ohms for the Monitor 5B. There may be another older Monitor 5 I don't know about?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,155
    edited July 2009
    Monitor 5's are either 6 ohm or 4 ohm nominal depending on which Polk literature you read. They are fairly easy to drive as I run mine on a 13wpc tube/mosfet chipamp hybrid with no issues.

    For background running them as you suggest on the Soundcraftsmen amp should be no trouble at all. I love my 5B's and have no experience with the S10's so subjectively I can;t help there.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • jeffandpamsmith
    jeffandpamsmith Posts: 7
    edited July 2009
    Would Polk be able to tell me by the serial numbers? I'm just tryiny to decide if I just run the 2 pairs of Monitor 5s should I attach them in parallel (3-4 ohms...maybe 2 if one of the above posters is right) or series (12-16 ohm load to the amp...it has the juice, but I remember hearing advice not to do series for other reasons...can't remember why).
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,155
    edited July 2009
    You could call Ken Swagger @ Polk CS. I doubt the 5B's were ever truely 8 ohms. I've never read that anywhere. Still, even as background music I doubt you'd have an issue. Soundcraftsmen are very beefy amps. Now if you were running them to very loud levels with very dynamic material you might have an issue.

    Parallel or Series, I doubt it will matter for you low level application. I assume the Soundcraftsmen has a protection circuit if it trips when wired in parallel then you'd know for sure.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,352
    edited July 2009
    Here are the specs for the Monitor 5B. Like many Polks of this era, there were design changes without name changes so the spec changed somewhere along the way. They started out as 4 ohm and apparently changed to 6 ohm.

    Monitor 5B (1984 - 1989?)
    Subwoofer 1 - 8" Diameter fluid coupled subwoofer (sub bass radiator)
    Midrange 1 - 6-1/2" Diameter (16.51cm) drivers
    MW6502
    Tweeter 1 - 1" Diameter (2.54cm)
    Polk SL2000 silver coil dome tweeter

    Overall Frequency Response 28Hz - 26kHz (30Hz – 26KHz)
    -3 dB Limits (43Hz – 20KHz)
    Crossover Frequency 60Hz and 3000Hz
    Nominal Impedance 4 ohms (6 ohms)
    Recommended Amplifier Power 10-125 w/channel
    Efficiency 91 dB (90 dB)
    Max Output Level 116 dB

    Dimensions Cabinet Size 21.5" H x 10.5" W x 8.5" D
    Weight 29. lbs.



    The Monitor 5 Series 2 (1990) are rated 8 ohm
    Subwoofer 1 - 8" Diameter (20.32cm) sub bass radiator
    Midrange 1 - 6-1/2" Diameter (16.51cm) driver
    Tweeter 1 - 1" Diameter (2.54cm)
    Polk SL2500 dome tweeter

    Overall Frequency Response 30Hz - 25kHz
    Lower -3dB Limit 43Hz
    Upper -3dB Limit 23kHz
    Nominal Impedance 8 ohms
    Recommended Amplifier Power 20-125 w/channel
    Efficiency 90 dB

    Dimensions Cabinet Size 22" H x 10" W x 10" D
    (55.88cm H x 25.40cm W x 25.40cm D)
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,352
    edited July 2009
    Here are the specs for the S10 and other S series and for one of the Monitor 5B versions.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80780&highlight=literature
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,512
    edited July 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Monitor 5's are either 6 ohm or 4 ohm nominal depending on which Polk literature you read. They are fairly easy to drive as I run mine on a 13wpc tube/mosfet chipamp hybrid with no issues.

    H9
    I swear that on a quick reading I thought you wrote that you were using a chimpamp... Now that would be interesting.

    Sorry. Back to our original thread topic.
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,352
    edited July 2009
    Come on, quit monkeying around!
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,155
    edited July 2009
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    I swear that on a quick reading I thought you wrote that you were using a chimpamp... Now that would be interesting.

    Sorry. Back to our original thread topic.
    skrol wrote: »
    Come on, quit monkeying around!

    Banana powered chimpamp

    ROLTFLMAO :D
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  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,352
    edited July 2009
    I feel like such a CHUMP for falling for that.
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,512
    edited July 2009
    my apologies to to the original poster for the monkey business.

    The Monitor 5 family are nice sounding little speakers (my son uses a pair of 5Bs as his dorm room speakers at school).

    Unfortunately, I know squat about the S10, so I really cannot help much; my work is done here.

    :-P
  • madmike
    madmike Posts: 81
    edited July 2009
    I agree the 5B's are great sounding for their size, I've had mine since 1985. Have to replace the tweeters now, running a set of peerless right now but those are for another set of speakers that I've had since 1981.