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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,432
    edited November 7
    I hear you Tony... CA is no different in that regard.
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  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,881
    I voted, though here in California, I wonder if it even matters sometimes. At least that 20 cent a gallon surtax on gasoline and increase on registration fees will get repealed. That was worth the trip for that reason alone.

    I hope you're better at picking horses. :D
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  • charley95charley95 Posts: 678
    tonyb wrote: »
    Yeah, good luck with that John.

    My state....voted for higher taxes. What sane person says please....take more of my money for your friends.

    Couldn't agree more Tony! We have misguided family members that actually think that paying more taxes is a good thing. But yet they won't open their homes to migrants.
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,798
    edited November 7
    ^^So Charley, I voted for higher taxes for schools, metro parks and libraries. Does this mean I should take in a migrant? With all due respect, please correct me if I missed something in my translation.






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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,798
    Oh, ok.
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  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,306
    tonyb wrote: »
    Yeah, good luck with that John.

    My state....voted for higher taxes. What sane person says please....take more of my money for your friends.

    My experience with people that don't care about higher taxes, are the ones that don't pay any...
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,956
    tonyb wrote: »
    Yeah, good luck with that John.

    My state....voted for higher taxes. What sane person says please....take more of my money for your friends.

    My experience with people that don't care about higher taxes, are the ones that don't pay any...

    Bingo.

    The whole idea behind earning a paycheck, is to keep as much of it as you can, not keep adding hands to take more of it.
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 10,175
    I voted, though here in California, I wonder if it even matters sometimes. At least that 20 cent a gallon surtax on gasoline and increase on registration fees will get repealed. That was worth the trip for that reason alone.

    Sorry John, gas tax repeal was defeated. Good thing also, since the roads do need repair.

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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,283
    edited November 7
    With taxes collected in previous years, the roads should've been kept in good order all along. Here in Wilm. NC, I've seen our local Gov. let hundreds of apartment complexes get built AND THEY STILL WANT TO RAISE OUR TAXES. They even came up with a "Water RUNOFF" :o tax based on our yard size. What a bunch of bull!

    Look at our SS taxes that were withdrawn from a lot of our paychecks for 50 years. Our elected government buffoons decided to pillage it all for other causes. :s

    Also, :o where's the GOLD that was in Fort Knox?
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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,515
    Tony M wrote: »
    where's the GOLD that was in Fort Knox?

    Goldfinger took it!
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,956
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I voted, though here in California, I wonder if it even matters sometimes. At least that 20 cent a gallon surtax on gasoline and increase on registration fees will get repealed. That was worth the trip for that reason alone.

    Sorry John, gas tax repeal was defeated. Good thing also, since the roads do need repair.

    Maybe they do Bud, but the elected officials need to learn how to prioritize things within a certain budget instead of treating the taxpayer like an open checkbook.

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,956
    Tony M wrote: »
    With taxes collected in previous years, the roads should've been kept in good order all along. Here in Wilm. NC, I've seen our local Gov. let hundreds of apartment complexes get built AND THEY STILL WANT TO RAISE OUR TAXES. They even came up with a "Water RUNOFF" :o tax based on our yard size. What a bunch of bull!

    Look at our SS taxes that were withdrawn from a lot of our paychecks for 50 years. Our elected government buffoons decided to pillage it all for other causes. :s

    Also, :o where's the GOLD that was in Fort Knox?

    Was in Wilmington this last spring, beautiful area. Lots of young-uns....and old drunks. :) Spent some time downtown, and at wrightsfield beach.

    Gold in Fort Knox ? Hmmm....could be why they keep fighting an audit of the place. I have no doubt some gold is in there, but not nearly what we are told to believe.
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  • NotaSuvNotaSuv Posts: 2,577
    Just legalize it......the $$$$$$$$$$$$ comes in fast and furious...just look at the states that have....
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,881
    tonyb wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I voted, though here in California, I wonder if it even matters sometimes. At least that 20 cent a gallon surtax on gasoline and increase on registration fees will get repealed. That was worth the trip for that reason alone.

    Sorry John, gas tax repeal was defeated. Good thing also, since the roads do need repair.

    Maybe they do Bud, but the elected officials need to learn how to prioritize things within a certain budget instead of treating the taxpayer like an open checkbook.

    Let me know when this happens.
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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,798
    la2vegas wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I voted, though here in California, I wonder if it even matters sometimes. At least that 20 cent a gallon surtax on gasoline and increase on registration fees will get repealed. That was worth the trip for that reason alone.

    Sorry John, gas tax repeal was defeated. Good thing also, since the roads do need repair.

    Maybe they do Bud, but the elected officials need to learn how to prioritize things within a certain budget instead of treating the taxpayer like an open checkbook.

    Let me know when this happens.

    You mean like, never.....lol.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,956
    la2vegas wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I voted, though here in California, I wonder if it even matters sometimes. At least that 20 cent a gallon surtax on gasoline and increase on registration fees will get repealed. That was worth the trip for that reason alone.

    Sorry John, gas tax repeal was defeated. Good thing also, since the roads do need repair.

    Maybe they do Bud, but the elected officials need to learn how to prioritize things within a certain budget instead of treating the taxpayer like an open checkbook.

    Let me know when this happens.

    Yeah I know, wishful thinking....but it is how it should be.
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  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,881
    la2vegas wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I voted, though here in California, I wonder if it even matters sometimes. At least that 20 cent a gallon surtax on gasoline and increase on registration fees will get repealed. That was worth the trip for that reason alone.

    Sorry John, gas tax repeal was defeated. Good thing also, since the roads do need repair.

    Maybe they do Bud, but the elected officials need to learn how to prioritize things within a certain budget instead of treating the taxpayer like an open checkbook.
    Let me know when this happens.

    You mean like, never.....lol.

    Exactly. :'(
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  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,525
    Before the gas tax hike CA was 3rd highest in gas tax and one of the highest is car reg. Now we are the highest in both. I'ts not about needing more money they already had it but spent it elsewhere.

    driving down the same road for 30 years to get to my dad's house. It's a major road and it has always been screwed up. $1 say's it doesn't get resurfaced next year either.

    Roads is just another way to do a money grab
    1 Schools
    2 Police
    3 Fire
    4 roads

    They can't just come out and say we spent YOUR money somewhere else now give us more.

    I cant tell my boss I spent my paycheck now give me more, I'll get laughed at while I'm getting fired.
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  • verbverb Posts: 3,681
    tonyb wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I voted, though here in California, I wonder if it even matters sometimes. At least that 20 cent a gallon surtax on gasoline and increase on registration fees will get repealed. That was worth the trip for that reason alone.

    Sorry John, gas tax repeal was defeated. Good thing also, since the roads do need repair.

    Maybe they do Bud, but the elected officials need to learn how to prioritize things within a certain budget instead of treating the taxpayer like an open checkbook.

    So often we hear politicians decry they need more money, in order to provide the services they are supposed to. Instead of looking internally, making things more efficient, cutting costs, etc.

    That would be analogous to a private company simply raising their prices of goods and services. But in the private sector, eventually the competition drives them out of business.

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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,283
    NotaSuv wrote: »
    Just legalize it......the $$$$$$$$$$$$ comes in fast and furious...just look at the states that have....

    I agree. remember this moment VVVV?

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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,919
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I voted, though here in California, I wonder if it even matters sometimes. At least that 20 cent a gallon surtax on gasoline and increase on registration fees will get repealed. That was worth the trip for that reason alone.

    Sorry John, gas tax repeal was defeated. Good thing also, since the roads do need repair.

    Texas doesn't have crazy taxes, and we do really well keeping our highway infrastructure in good conditions...Maybe Cali needs to learn how to manage their money better, and what about that money pit rail system :D :D :D :D :o :o :o :o
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  • verbverb Posts: 3,681
    Tony M wrote: »
    With taxes collected in previous years, the roads should've been kept in good order all along. Here in Wilm. NC, I've seen our local Gov. let hundreds of apartment complexes get built AND THEY STILL WANT TO RAISE OUR TAXES. They even came up with a "Water RUNOFF" :o tax based on our yard size. What a bunch of bull!

    Look at our SS taxes that were withdrawn from a lot of our paychecks for 50 years. Our elected government buffoons decided to pillage it all for other causes. :s

    Also, :o where's the GOLD that was in Fort Knox?

    We've all seen it countless times. Tax hike here, millage there, all for a good cause. But what happens is that money gets reallocated to another expenditure, because of mis-management, or even malfeasance.

    I voted only one time IIRC for a tax increase, for state parks and recreation, because it was written into our constitution that money could not be reallocated. Sure, they could amend our state constitution, but that is much harder to do.
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  • verbverb Posts: 3,681
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I voted, though here in California, I wonder if it even matters sometimes. At least that 20 cent a gallon surtax on gasoline and increase on registration fees will get repealed. That was worth the trip for that reason alone.

    Sorry John, gas tax repeal was defeated. Good thing also, since the roads do need repair.

    Texas doesn't have crazy taxes, and we do really well keeping our highway infrastructure in good conditions...Maybe Cali needs to learn how to manage their money better, and what about that money pit rail system :D :D :D :D :o :o :o :o

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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,432
    No need for a re-write. They just find a judge and make it legal by declaring whatever they don't like "unconstitutional"... No need to actually get approval for that anymore.
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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,283
    These Congress people give themselves raises without asking the people if it's ok. Don't they work for us?

    These past 2 years has put a light on so many congress people and other top officials that are just down right crooks. Also evil people with no morals are up there making rules and conniving against the other political parties.

    I wonder why we have 2 parties anyway. They usually just lift their noses at the others.

    Our country has suffered tremendously for the past 60 years. :'(
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  • verbverb Posts: 3,681
    No need for a re-write. They just find a judge and make it legal by declaring whatever they don't like "unconstitutional"... No need to actually get approval for that anymore.

    Yeah, believe me it was a stretch for me to "trust" our government. So far, so good. But, I would not be surprised if they challenged it.
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  • verbverb Posts: 3,681
    Tony M wrote: »
    These Congress people give themselves raises without asking the people if it's ok. Don't they work for us?

    These past 2 years has put a light on so many congress people and other top officials that are just down right crooks. Also evil people with no morals are up there making rules and conniving against the other political parties.

    I wonder why we have 2 parties anyway. They usually just lift their noses at the others.

    Our country has suffered tremendously for the past 60 years. :'(

    We're in the middle of a process. Our founding fathers were pure genius. Even they at the time had a general disdain for government, while they were giving birth to ours!
    Amazing! We'll look back with amazement as to how the status quo in federal government was finally challenged. In the meantime you win some and lose some. What keeps me optimistic is the continued transformation and challenge of the swamp!
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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,798
    Day after the election and Sessions is gone...……LOL.
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,432
    “There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”

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