Is it worth upgrading from Polk monitor 60 series 2 , to the Rti A5

I'm wanting more of a punch for my movie time in my theater. My current setup is
Denon avr s920w
Fronts- monitor 60s
Center- csi1
Rears- monitor 40s
Sub - 2 psw505s

I know Polk deals will be everywhere in the next few weeks and I've been eyeballing the Rti a5 with a csi a6 center. I'm not looking at the Rti a7 because I don't want to upgrade my avr.
So what I'm getting to will it be worth going this route. I use this mainly for movies and I do game often as well. I'm looking for a nice punch to my system that I feel is taking.

Answers

  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,022
    Get a better receiver with preouts. You won't get punch with anything on that Denon, and it will probably make the A5 unbearable.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,968
    Yes, it's worth it, especially the bigger center, but that receiver, as already stated isn't doing you any favors either. Maybe budget for a new one down the road.
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,527
    RTi/RTiA are great for movies, I'd say go for it. Then there is a "but". For music they are on the bright side. If you're going to listen to any music or think you might in the future I'd lean more to the Signature line.

    Yes your AVR is not doing you any favors. Get a more upper end Denon Marantz or Yamaha with pre-outs so you can add an amp later. If you have a Fry's near they have been clearing out the Denon AVR's (I got my 4400 for $800).

    Power and current, more you have better the punch will be.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 168
    I upgraded from Monitor 60 Series II to S55's and a S30 and noticed a big difference. I had a Yamaha Advantage 720 at the time. They sound even better now with the 2070 that replaced my 720. I had a CSII with my Monitor 60's btw.
    Yamaha RX-A2070, Polk S55, S30, PSW505, Sony BPD-S3200, Technics PD867, Audio-Technica AT-LP60, AudioQuest Type 4 Speaker Cable, Furman PL-8C 15 Amp, Sony KDS-50A3000.
  • Thanks for the insight. I really appreciate it. I just bought these monitor speakers last year which I upgraded from the Polk tl3 Blackstone series because I moved and now have a dedicated theater room which is 24 x 17. I know my avr has pre outs and I could get some power amps. To drive bigger speakers . I don't really crank it up hard on my avr tops at -65 on the volume. I'm just nervous if I do go for the Rti series I'll be disappointed because of only being able to push 95w per channel. I also haven't thought about going with the newer signature series because I would need to get new rears if I did. I guess it's an option but am picky on having everything match in my systems.
  • I take it back about having pre outs. I was thinking if my old Denon 3808 ci
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,022
    Your receiver does not have preouts for speakers. If it did I would have told you to get an amp. You will see better gains with a good receiver or receiver/amp combo than new speakers. Anything you put on that receiver is going to show minimal potential.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • Yeah I reposted I was thinking of my last avr. Which ishould have kept but I wanted 4k with Dolby Atmos. I probably should have just kept the 3808.
  • So I will be able to obtain more of the punch that I am looking for with a more powerful amp with my current setup vs buying the Rti series ?
  • I do like that amp and have looked at it for some time. However. It is very difficult for me to persuade my other half on the money I spend on my electronics. I have already successfully done so with new speakers as I will move these to a different room with a back up amp. So I figured the rtis would be the way to go for me with what I have. I guess I was wrong on thinking I could move to the Rti line with my current amp.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,022
    edited November 1
    Id like to clarify that I’m not advising against upgrading to the RTi series, but I am advising you deal with your power first.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,692
    The Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A830 in the FS section here would be worth considering.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,968
    polk4liffe wrote: »
    I do like that amp and have looked at it for some time. However. It is very difficult for me to persuade my other half on the money I spend on my electronics. I have already successfully done so with new speakers as I will move these to a different room with a back up amp. So I figured the rtis would be the way to go for me with what I have. I guess I was wrong on thinking I could move to the Rti line with my current amp.

    The thing is, in audio.....everything matters in the chain. The speakers matter obviously, but so does the power they get, the cables you use, the subwoofer, source material, and the room they are in.

    To get more punch, the RTI line is the better series than the Monitor line. The power could use a boost too over what you have also. The center channel needs to be bigger, the subs, better. Those 505's are just OK. Look at SVS, HSU for subs with punch.

    Convincing the other half is always going to be a challenge. Make mental notes when she comes home with a new purse or new shoes. Clothes are a womans hobby, audio and cars is a mans.

    Also, keep an eye on the used markets for some of this stuff. You can get like new gear for half the price of retail if you look hard enough.
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,317
    Where are you located P4L?
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,527
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
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