VTL 120/50 Stereo Tube Amp

verbverb Posts: 3,670
OK everyone I've gotten bit by the tube bug. Thanks to all the enablers on this forum! :smile: Since the VTL 2.5 pre came home, of which I'm amazed at how sweet it sounds, I've been looking at the power amps as well.

Anyone have experience with this amp? It seems interesting, switchable from triode to pentode mode.

Can this guy run my SDA SRS's? I play mostly classic rock/metal. Stuck in the 70/80s music era if you know what I mean :smile:

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I appreciate all advice given. I have learned to trust the opinions here on the forum.

Tubies opine!
Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,494
    edited October 27
    No personal experience with that model, but others. I'd say it'll drive your SDA's and sound good doing it in Pentode. Triode might be a bit iffy.

    BTW, you can take those stupid looking cover supports off.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • verbverb Posts: 3,670
    Thanks Jesse. I agree the cover supports and metal cage would go! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,494
    Ah well, if the cage comes with it then the supports serve a purpose. Still, looks a lot better naked.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • verbverb Posts: 3,670
    Agreed. Naked is always better! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,398
    edited October 27
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with PS Audio NuWave Phono converter, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 525a CD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray , Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • verbverb Posts: 3,670
    Gorgeous! Looks like a great value too!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,997
    I'd probably pass simply based off the power tube type. The 807 is not a popular choice and will be a limiting factor in that amp.

    I personally tend to prefer tube gear with less exotic tube types for multiple reasons.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • verbverb Posts: 3,670
    Thanks Skip. I read similar comments on the 807’s. Always appreciate your advice!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,354
    edited October 27
    Output transformers look a little skimpy -- given that I can barely see them.

    push-pull parallel pentode mode is gettin' a long way from what tubes do best -- in pursuit of scads of those seductive (to some) watts. Sorta like stuffin' a Hemi in a Caterham Super Seven. Yeah, you could do it, but that wouldn't mean it would be a good idea.

    ... or so I would opine.

    Nothin' against 807s (which are pretty unexotic tubes -- now, a 50 triode... that's gettin' a little esoteric) from my perspective ... but I'd want to hear the amplifier before plunking down lucre (filthy or otherwise).

    I'm funny that way -- something about listening to hifi components rather than reading opinions proffered by dipsticks like... umm... well, me seems like the better way to approach the hunt.

    -- again, like Epimedes the Cretan's*, just my opinion**

    _______________
    * That's Cretan, not cretin.
    ** All y'all, doubtless, remember his opinion: "All Cretans are liars", said he. There might be some truth in that... but, then again... ;)

  • verbverb Posts: 3,670
    edited October 27
    Thanks Mark. It’s on US Audiomart right now with more pics if your interested in doing a walk around.

    Newbies like me have to rely on experts for guidance. Just a few short months (10) ago when I joined CP I was blissful in my ignorance.

    I’m on my journey to enlightenment! With your tutelage of course! :smile:

    And others!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,997
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Output transformers look a little skimpy -- given that I can barely see them.

    push-pull parallel pentode mode is gettin' a long way from what tubes do best -- in pursuit of scads of those seductive (to some) watts. Sorta like stuffin' a Hemi in a Caterham Super Seven. Yeah, you could do it, but that wouldn't mean it would be a good idea.

    ... or so I would opine.

    Nothin' against 807s (which are pretty unexotic tubes -- now, a 50 triode... that's gettin' a little esoteric) from my perspective ... but I'd want to hear the amplifier before plunking down lucre (filthy or otherwise).

    I'm funny that way -- something about listening to hifi components rather than reading opinions proffered by dipsticks like... umm... well, me seems like the better way to approach the hunt.

    -- again, like Epimedes the Cretan's*, just my opinion**

    _______________
    * That's Cretan, not cretin.
    ** All y'all, doubtless, remember his opinion: "All Cretans are liars", said he. There might be some truth in that... but, then again... ;)

    Perhaps exotic is not a good term, but when it comes to power tubes - especially when there are 8 of them - I'd prefer something more common.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,398
    edited October 27
    I think you would do very well to grab the Carver. I am listening to my TL's right now, and I can tell you Bob's tube amps and Polk SRS are a match made in heaven. You may upgrade other aspects, buy you will never want for a better sounding tube amp, though you may choose to do the monoblocks like I did.

    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/183877/bob-carver-corp-crimson-275-stereo-tube-power-amplifier#latest
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with PS Audio NuWave Phono converter, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 525a CD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray , Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,354
    edited October 27
    I don't think NOS 807s are hard to find... but I'll admit they're not something I look for :)

    EDIT NOS @ 20 bucks a pop from thetubestore (e.g.)

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,354
    edited October 27
    The modern Carver amplifiers seem refreshingly no nonsense compared to some of Bob's early efforts -- and not outrageously priced, either. They're (EDIT: IIRC) hand made in the US, which is nice, too.
  • verbverb Posts: 3,670
    I think you would do very well to grab the Carver. I am listening to my TL's right now, and I can tell you Bob's tube amps and Polk SRS are a match made in heaven. You may upgrade other aspects, buy you will never want for a better sounding tube amp, though you may choose to do the monoblocks like I did.

    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/183877/bob-carver-corp-crimson-275-stereo-tube-power-amplifier#latest

    Very tempting. Even on sale right now. A bit more than “dipping my toes in” price if you know what I mean! But hey, it’s a journey! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,997
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    I don't think NOS 807s are hard to find... but I'll admit they're not something I look for :)

    EDIT NOS @ 20 bucks a pop from thetubestore (e.g.)

    I saw those but not much else. It's a tube I had not heard of before looking at this VTL.

    On a side note, I do have a client who had a VTL similar to this one and he did not like it. He now has a newer VTL - an S200 I think - and he is in love with that one. I've heard it too and it is exceptional, but also much higher than the asking price of the one mentioned above.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 2,568
    verb wrote: »
    I think you would do very well to grab the Carver. I am listening to my TL's right now, and I can tell you Bob's tube amps and Polk SRS are a match made in heaven. You may upgrade other aspects, buy you will never want for a better sounding tube amp, though you may choose to do the monoblocks like I did.

    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/183877/bob-carver-corp-crimson-275-stereo-tube-power-amplifier#latest

    Very tempting. Even on sale right now. A bit more than “dipping my toes in” price if you know what I mean! But hey, it’s a journey! :smile:

    If I may offer an opinion...don't just look to dip your toes. I did with the AE line by Cary. I now have a couple grand worth of paper weights between the pre and amp. Make the jump on a quality piece and enjoy.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • verbverb Posts: 3,670
    kharp1 wrote: »
    verb wrote: »
    I think you would do very well to grab the Carver. I am listening to my TL's right now, and I can tell you Bob's tube amps and Polk SRS are a match made in heaven. You may upgrade other aspects, buy you will never want for a better sounding tube amp, though you may choose to do the monoblocks like I did.

    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/183877/bob-carver-corp-crimson-275-stereo-tube-power-amplifier#latest

    Very tempting. Even on sale right now. A bit more than “dipping my toes in” price if you know what I mean! But hey, it’s a journey! :smile:

    If I may offer an opinion...don't just look to dip your toes. I did with the AE line by Cary. I now have a couple grand worth of paper weights between the pre and amp. Make the jump on a quality piece and enjoy.

    I hear ya. You can flip the paperweights though?
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,398
    Not easily.... I have a paperweight here in the form of a Krell CD player that is worth more as scrap aluminum. Great gear up front and you never have to wonder about something better. That's where my rig is now.

    I was like you when I joined here. I had a Yamaha RX-v665 and some Monitor 50's and thought I had the best ever. I now have 400 watts of custom built tube power, and all the other gear currently in my sig. I have also gone through several amps/pre's and speakers, including the Magnepan MG-20's... Best advice is to get quality power to those big girls that can actually handle them, then build from there.

    When you are ready, I will have a Krell waiting for you with your name on it. :p
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with PS Audio NuWave Phono converter, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 525a CD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray , Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • verbverb Posts: 3,670
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Output transformers look a little skimpy -- given that I can barely see them.

    push-pull parallel pentode mode is gettin' a long way from what tubes do best -- in pursuit of scads of those seductive (to some) watts. Sorta like stuffin' a Hemi in a Caterham Super Seven. Yeah, you could do it, but that wouldn't mean it would be a good idea.

    ... or so I would opine.

    Nothin' against 807s (which are pretty unexotic tubes -- now, a 50 triode... that's gettin' a little esoteric) from my perspective ... but I'd want to hear the amplifier before plunking down lucre (filthy or otherwise).

    I'm funny that way -- something about listening to hifi components rather than reading opinions proffered by dipsticks like... umm... well, me seems like the better way to approach the hunt.

    -- again, like Epimedes the Cretan's*, just my opinion**

    _______________
    * That's Cretan, not cretin.
    ** All y'all, doubtless, remember his opinion: "All Cretans are liars", said he. There might be some truth in that... but, then again... ;)

    The back side:
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    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • verbverb Posts: 3,670
    Not easily.... I have a paperweight here in the form of a Krell CD player that is worth more as scrap aluminum. Great gear up front and you never have to wonder about something better. That's where my rig is now.

    I was like you when I joined here. I had a Yamaha RX-v665 and some Monitor 50's and thought I had the best ever. I now have 400 watts of custom built tube power, and all the other gear currently in my sig. I have also gone through several amps/pre's and speakers, including the Magnepan MG-20's... Best advice is to get quality power to those big girls that can actually handle them, then build from there.

    When you are ready, I will have a Krell waiting for you with your name on it. :p

    Is that the Krell that suffered through all the drama? Police intervention and all? :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,398
    edited October 27
    One and the same... I will remove the crime scene tape first if you want me to. I am listening to it now. I have found as with all gear of exceptional quality, it can take time to warm up and sound it's best. I had it on for three hours before sitting down. The Oak Ridge Boys never sounded so good.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with PS Audio NuWave Phono converter, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 525a CD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray , Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • verbverb Posts: 3,670

    Man I'm looking at that and am mesmerized! Pure eye candy for sure.

    Looking forward to William's thoughts on it. Lots to ponder. And dream! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,398
    Bob is also the kind of guy that stands behind his word like no other. His word is bond.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with PS Audio NuWave Phono converter, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 525a CD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray , Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,398
    edited October 27
    Bob is the kind of guy that loves this hobby so much that he will go well out of his way to help others. His word is bond... He helped me fulfill a fantasy that has taken my system to a place I never dreamed it could get to.

    Check out these threads...

    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/106765/building-400-wpc-tube-monoblocks/p1
    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/133261/the-amp-project-the-final-chapter-has-begun/p1
    Post edited by nooshinjohn on
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with PS Audio NuWave Phono converter, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 525a CD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray , Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • verbverb Posts: 3,670
    Carver was my first step beyond your run of the mill stereo components. From my mid 70's Pioneer receiver. I've since had a few SS Carver amps (M1.0t's now karma'd), and still own the TFM35x (which is now back in the box), Carver tuner and CD player (all back in the box). I've read mixed reviews on the SS stuff, but always positives on the tube stuff.
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • verbverb Posts: 3,670
    Bob is the kind of guy that loves this hobby so much that he will go well out of his way to help others. His word is bond... He helped me fulfill a fantasy that has taken my system to a place I never dreamed it could get to.

    Check out these threads...

    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/106765/building-400-wpc-tube-monoblocks/p1
    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/133261/the-amp-project-the-final-chapter-has-begun/p1

    Wow! That was quite the page turner! Those amps truly are "statements" my man!

    And you're selling em? I read a lot of "I love these" comments in those threads. Even your wife had a lot of direct influence on the project. Lot's of memories there for sure.

    Thanks brother for sharing that. I would've never have found it otherwise. Truly inspirational!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,494
    Like I said, I have not heard that model amp, but have heard a number of other David Manley designed amps, even owned one. David Manley was a tube amp guru. I've also heard a number of Bob Carver's tube amps, which are also top notch. I don't think you could go wrong with either.

    BTW, Bob really liked my Manley amp.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,494
    edited October 28
    I just read the sellers description of the sound quality in Pentode and Triode. While he says it is special in Triode I don't think that's enough juice for your speakers and his comments about the sound in Pentode leave a lot to be desired, so I think you should look elsewhere.

    It's too bad that VTL 90 is local pick up.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • verbverb Posts: 3,670
    Yep. That was my worry as well. I need something to power the SRS's. I appreciate your effort Jesse as always.
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Cambridge CD transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
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