I accidentally pushed the wrong button, should I undo it?

gudnoyezgudnoyez Posts: 6,254
edited July 28 in Music & Movies
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Well I was just searching for reviews on this put it in my cart thought I deleted it, next thing I know I get a e-mail confirmation of my purchase. What to do, I'm happy with my A&M vinyl copy from when it was released back in 79 sounds great.

How many of you have this? I'm looking for some reassurance ,and a pep talk from some of you that have this before I cancel this. I know this is no Crisis What Crisis, or Crime Of The Century, is this Mofi SACD of thier 3rd best album worth it? What you all say anyone going to talk me out of it, or convince me it's worth a purchase?
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,999
    The SACD is excellent.
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  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 325
    I rip all my SACD's using an Oppo BDP-105, served from Roon ROCK to PS Audio DirectStream DAC, sans preamp to an upgraded Parasound HCA-1500A feeding fully modded 1.2tl's. I run Roon and make a playlist of each song. Easy to A/B.

    My gear is somewhere on the Atlantic Ocean (on a ship :smile: ) but I had one day with the SACD prior to packing. The brief evening I had with it I was able to A/B each version. I'd say my initial impression was cleaner presentation and tight bass. Sound stage was a bit more open.

    I have the Crime of the Century and Live in Paris Bluerays, which I really like, and did lots of reading on reviews of BIA and previous versions. Steve Hoffman forum had lots of opinions on past versions...no clear consensus. So, although I have on older CD copy, I purchased it because I'm a Supertramp fan. One thing I learned is you can't get many SACD titles if they end up out of print. Well, you can, but at stupid prices. The Blueray version of BIA had very mixed reviews....many negative. The SACD's worth the gamble and, based on my short time with it, recommended.
  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 325
    Interesting read for anyone that likes this album:

    https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/classic-tracks-supertramp-logical-song
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,423
    The LP that lives here is kind of brittle sounding -- tending towards that brightness that plagued 80s pop rekkids.

    I hope all y'all's copies sound better than ours :|

    Speaking of Breakfast in America -- for reasons that are too abstruse to recount here :p I happened last night to read a contemporary review of it in Stereo Review that was uncharacteristically snarky (though perhaps not inaccurate).

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    :*

    Mind you, I do like the album... but it was pretty... commercial. :)
    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

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  • aprazer402aprazer402 Posts: 1,056
    Mind you, I do like the album... but it was pretty... commercial. :)
    [/quote]

    ^^^^ FWIW, so were The Beatles albums.
  • aprazer402aprazer402 Posts: 1,056
    edited July 28
    I rarely use my phone to post. I had written more than was shown. Wonder where it all went?

    I too have been reading the music reviews of the 1970's in Stereo Review from the link mrh posted a few weeks back. Thanks again for sharing it, here's the link again.
    https://www.americanradiohistory.com/HiFI-Stereo-Review.htm

    Their reviews of many of the albums, most of us really enjoy, were given "meh" or worse reviews back in the day. Really poor reviews at best, most were too short, one word used for Performance, one for Recording. I subscribed to SR during the 70's and even back then I felt they were so off base on many of their so-called reviews. Even DSOTM was slighted somewhat along with many other bands. After reading through many of them anew in the past weeks it all came back again but somewhat funny. They seemed to lend more favor towards individuals and some obscure artists, rather than popular bands.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,423
    aprazer402 wrote: »
    Mind you, I do like the album... but it was pretty... commercial. :)

    ^^^^ FWIW, so were The Beatles albums.[/quote]

    White Album? ;)
    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 2,535
    Keep it, it's always good to have an un-mucked with copy. This way there's less wear and tear on the vinyl.
  • chumliechumlie Posts: 8,345
    Send it back !!!
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 281
    Love that album. Keep it.
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  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,786
    I have never owned any Supertramp, was never into them, I have seen this album a thousand times throughout the years but never “really” looked at it, I just now realized the plane window looking out over New York, and the waitress is the Statue of Liberty... LOL!!!
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 10,261
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I have never owned any Supertramp, was never into them, I have seen this album a thousand times throughout the years but never “really” looked at it, I just now realized the plane window looking out over New York, and the waitress is the Statue of Liberty... LOL!!!

    Boy can't get anything by you Larry :D lol
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 2,817
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I have never owned any Supertramp, was never into them, I have seen this album a thousand times throughout the years but never “really” looked at it, I just now realized the plane window looking out over New York, and the waitress is the Statue of Liberty... LOL!!!

    HAHAHAHA That's hilarious, Larry! I noticed the same exact thing for the first time yesterday. :p

    It was like the first time you notice the girls on the cover of The Alan Parson Project's album "Eve" have stuff on their faces behind their veils. :D

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  • gudnoyezgudnoyez Posts: 6,254
    Figure I will just keep it as most of the reviews, I have been reading are favorable. I'm looking forward to its arrival.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,423
    Supertramp's Even in the Quietest Moments and Crisis? What Crisis? are well worth evaluation, I would opine (with characteristic humility).
    Crime of the Century, too.

    :)

    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • WillowWillow Posts: 8,999
    Give it away as karma is the right thing to do, really....
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  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,786
    If you end up not wanting, hit me up, I will take it off your hands and give it a spin, I will pay you for it of course..
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 2,535
    $0.74 and a banana peal.
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 1,412
    edited July 29
    FestYboy wrote: »
    $0.74 and a banana peal.

    Ah thank yu mespeeled wun uv dose wordz...
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    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    You don't tell her you read the manual, and you tell her you know what the problem is, and you fixed it, because that what men do, fix things
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 2,535
    Hooked on phonics worked for me ;)

    Peel (*as opposed to peal, or piel)
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 1,412
    FestYboy wrote: »
    Hooked on phonics worked for me ;)

    Peel (*as opposed to peal, or piel)

    I was gonna let it go, but then I realized Viking wouldn’t when he saw it, so I decided to call it out. You should be glad, because I’m much more forgiving when it comes to grammar than Viking. :tongue: :wink:
    2 channel
    Speakers: Mission 770 Freedoms
    Integrated amp: Technics SU-v75 and matching tuner
    CDP: Technics SL-PC20
    Cables: Monoprice, Monster, Acoustic Research, and a few generic ones
    TT: Technics SL-3200, direct drive
    Cartridge: Shure M97xE

    Pc gaming setup
    Receiver/amp: Yamaha RX-V665
    Computer: Lenovo g50 (soon to be upgraded to a Dell Precision 690 which is far from stock!!)
    Interconnects: Amazon basics HDMI, Acoustic Research HDMI, Monoprice speaker cables
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    Random equipment on standby:
    Onkyo TX-v940, JBL woofers and tweeters, single Klipsch KG .5, Yamaha guitar amplifier, Peavey Rage 158 guitar amplifier, Kicker comp 12” subwoofer, single Bose 802 series II, a whole bunch of 1”-3” full range drivers, Infinity Crescendo 3007s (on sale), Polk LSi25s
    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    You don't tell her you read the manual, and you tell her you know what the problem is, and you fixed it, because that what men do, fix things
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 18,272
    One of my favorite albums of all time.
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  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 2,535
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    FestYboy wrote: »
    Hooked on phonics worked for me ;)

    Peel (*as opposed to peal, or piel)

    I was gonna let it go, but then I realized Viking wouldn’t when he saw it, so I decided to call it out. You should be glad, because I’m much more forgiving when it comes to grammar than Viking. :tongue: :wink:

    Ahh! He's recruited a minion! :p
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 1,412
    FestYboy wrote: »
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    FestYboy wrote: »
    Hooked on phonics worked for me ;)

    Peel (*as opposed to peal, or piel)

    I was gonna let it go, but then I realized Viking wouldn’t when he saw it, so I decided to call it out. You should be glad, because I’m much more forgiving when it comes to grammar than Viking. :tongue: :wink:

    Ahh! He's recruited a minion! :p

    Not quite. I was trying to save you from the mocking and unending nagging from @Viking64 , by getting it over with in a way that is better for everyone... except for Viking. :tongue:
    2 channel
    Speakers: Mission 770 Freedoms
    Integrated amp: Technics SU-v75 and matching tuner
    CDP: Technics SL-PC20
    Cables: Monoprice, Monster, Acoustic Research, and a few generic ones
    TT: Technics SL-3200, direct drive
    Cartridge: Shure M97xE

    Pc gaming setup
    Receiver/amp: Yamaha RX-V665
    Computer: Lenovo g50 (soon to be upgraded to a Dell Precision 690 which is far from stock!!)
    Interconnects: Amazon basics HDMI, Acoustic Research HDMI, Monoprice speaker cables
    Speakers: Boston Acoustics CR75s

    Random equipment on standby:
    Onkyo TX-v940, JBL woofers and tweeters, single Klipsch KG .5, Yamaha guitar amplifier, Peavey Rage 158 guitar amplifier, Kicker comp 12” subwoofer, single Bose 802 series II, a whole bunch of 1”-3” full range drivers, Infinity Crescendo 3007s (on sale), Polk LSi25s
    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    You don't tell her you read the manual, and you tell her you know what the problem is, and you fixed it, because that what men do, fix things
  • gudnoyezgudnoyez Posts: 6,254
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    It showed up today #001195 come on Mofi not really digging the Digi Pac type case, but wow what a sonic marvel. I thought the Original A&M LP sounded good, this just sounds phenomenal the highs are somewhat subdued compared to the LP which is a good thing, tight punchy bass a perfect example of what I expect a MOFI SACD to sound like. It's a keeper might as well frame the LP and hang it on the wall as I wont be listening to it again with this in the collection.
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    2 Channel
    Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+

    Stuff for the Head
    JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365

    Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
    Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin B)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,423
    gudnoyez wrote: »
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    It showed up today #001195 come on Mofi not really digging the Digi Pac type case, but wow what a sonic marvel. I thought the Original A&M LP sounded good, this just sounds phenomenal the highs are somewhat subdued compared to the LP which is a good thing, tight punchy bass a perfect example of what I expect a MOFI SACD to sound like. It's a keeper might as well frame the LP and hang it on the wall as I wont be listening to it again with this in the collection.

    [emphasis added]
    Yeah, that would be a good thing -- I remember the LP being kind of icepick-in-ear bright, though I haven't spun it for a long time. :)


    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • trav0810trav0810 Posts: 950
    One of my favorite SACD's. Enjoy!
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  • WillowWillow Posts: 8,999
    gudnoyez wrote: »
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    It showed up today #001195 come on Mofi not really digging the Digi Pac type case, but wow what a sonic marvel. I thought the Original A&M LP sounded good, this just sounds phenomenal the highs are somewhat subdued compared to the LP which is a good thing, tight punchy bass a perfect example of what I expect a MOFI SACD to sound like. It's a keeper might as well frame the LP and hang it on the wall as I wont be listening to it again with this in the collection.

    In with 23!
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,999
    Told ya
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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